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Now I know that his speed is really inconsistent, but after he was amped he has been doing more and more light speed feats.

like when he outran H.E‘s black hole

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That makes him 10x the speed of light or 1,860,000 miles per second. Or 11,160,000 mph.

but this is the feat I really want to talk about is his picosecond feat

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We know that speedsters can’t exactly move their body parts faster then each other. So if he can move his head upward faster than a pico second, he can do it with the rest of his body.

So here is the math:

Light moves 186,000 miles per second. And a pico second is 1 trillionth of A second. So multiply 1 trillion by 186000=1.86x10^17 miles per second. and then multiply that by 60 (60 seconds per minute) =1.116x10^19 miles per minute. And then multiply that by 60 again (60 minutes per hour) which equals a final answer of:

6.696 x 10^20 miles per hour

that’s fast, but even so, he’s still slower than

makkari, quadrillions of times faster than light

buried alien, however fast Barry Allen is.

runner with space gem, infinite speed

hermes, incalculable/infinite speeds

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@joaquin12:

That makes him 10x the speed of light

Why 10x?

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@rbt: black holes pull is so strong even things that move at the speed of light can not escape it. Science says that something must move theoretically 5-10 or above x the speed of light to escape its pull. Pietro outran it’s pull. Meaning he’s 5-10x faster than light not including his picosecond feat.

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Btw 1,860,000 miles per second is 6.706e+9 not the puny 11 million miles per hour 😂

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Also space gem did close to nothing for runners speed he was so fast anyway

all space gem did was sometimes teleport him to a place subconsciously b4 he thought of going to said place

also if Hermes had infinite speed then he wouldn’t get shot by a nail gun 👌

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@rbt: black holes pull is so strong even things that move at the speed of light can not escape it. Science says that something must move theoretically 5-10 or above x the speed of light to escape its pull. Pietro outran it’s pull. Meaning he’s 5-10x faster than light not including his picosecond feat.

You understood it wrong then. U must be FTL if you want to escape event horizon already being inside ( assuming you are durable enough to withstand pressure of let say multicontinental compressed mass for stellar or this is weak not destructive supermassive black hole ). To escape surface you need SoL.

If your logic was true then we already would be sucked instantly to centre of galaxy but the fact we are 25 000 LYs away travelling at speed of 231 km/s we are safe

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@mama7: thats me considering that it is a controlled black hole. If it is a real black hole a lot of the planet would be gone snd the black hole woyld destroy everything. So the pull should be significantly weaker. After more research he should need to move only at the speed of light to pass it. Im not a scientist and i dont feel the need to research black holes.

Anyways what pount fo u want to make if i already explained his picosecond feat.

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#8  Edited By FireStarLord73194

He’s ftl but his top speeds are nothing in comparison to even casual strolls the Flash takes

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I'm actually happy he isn't thousands or even hundreds of thousands/millions faster than Light like most of Flash characters (which is rediculous)

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#10  Edited By Comiclover6  Online

All facts

Though I will say speedsters are the most full of s*** heroes and villains of all time.

There's literally nothing you can do to stop characters who can move this fast. One pico second and they make everybody else useless.

For instance no matter how strong Thor is QS would have literally years alone while all of time appears frozen to figure out how to take down any evil. And the simple fact their minds can keep up to control them while moving at these speeds.......!

Dosen't matter how much power Dr. Fate has when Flash could kill him a million times before he could even catch a feeling.

After a certain speed these guys make the entire universe nearly useless. Even a reality warper still has to think about a action before doing. And that one schema of thought(not even including the physical time of execution) gives insane level speedsters enough time to kill them a trillion times over.

P. I. S!!! Only. Is how these guys ever have competition

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@namelessmonster: do u know how fast u need to be to have picosecond reactions?

13 trillion x light

he’s just That fast now

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@comiclover6: exactly u know speedsters who can perceive pico seconds

1 second for us = 38,000+ years for them

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Now I know that his speed is really inconsistent, but after he was amped he has been doing more and more light speed feats.

like when he outran H.E‘s black hole

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That makes him 10x the speed of light or 1,860,000 miles per second. Or 11,160,000 mph.

but this is the feat I really want to talk about is his picosecond feat

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We know that speedsters can’t exactly move their body parts faster then each other. So if he can move his head upward faster than a pico second, he can do it with the rest of his body.

So here is the math:

Light moves 186,000 miles per second. And a pico second is 1 trillionth of A second. So multiply 1 trillion by 186000=1.86x10^17 miles per second. and then multiply that by 60 (60 seconds per minute) =1.116x10^19 miles per minute. And then multiply that by 60 again (60 minutes per hour) which equals a final answer of:

6.696 x 10^20 miles per hour

that’s fast, but even so, he’s still slower than

makkari, quadrillions of times faster than light

buried alien, however fast Barry Allen is.

runner with space gem, infinite speed

hermes, incalculable/infinite speeds

???? Since when is Makkari quadrillions of times faster than light? Am I missing some feat?

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@tvenger: he hit absolute speed against runner which is ♾

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@akz said:

@firestarlord73194: he’s 13 t x light u clearly don’t know what a picosecond is

I said he’s ftl. 13 x light is still ftl so what I’m saying is no different than what you’re saying. Flash is still way faster

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@akz said:

@namelessmonster: do u know how fast u need to be to have picosecond reactions?

13 trillion x light

he’s just That fast now

I'm talking about the x10 ftl one.

The other it's too outlierish, the first also could be, but it's less likely.

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@joaquin12: moving his head a few inches for a picosecond isn’t the same as moving his whole body from a to b in the same amount of time. I think your math is off, you shouldn’t be multiplying by a distance of 186,000 b/c that’s not the distance being traveled in the feat, you should only be calculating how fast moving his head a few inches is in a picosecond because that’s all that feat says. And that’s just the speed of him looking, which would be faster than his speed from point A to point B. And if this is from No Surrender, Wanda and Synapse helped him achieve those speeds

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@namelessmonster: ye ofc it’s outlierish

cos he’s not flash right?

in the newer Comics they’ve been showing how he’s been getting amped and his mental block which stopped him going too fast b4 killing ppl was removed by scarlet witch so ye I wouldn’t call it an outlier

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@firestarlord73194: that doesn’t make sense...

to move normally in a picosecond means in itself he has a picosecond reaction time which as the OP said is 13T x Light

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He's FTL at least. Why must people compare him to The Flash in every thread? Not every guy with super speed is a low-level reality warper with access to speed magic. Pietro is not The Flash, nor will he ever be.

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@darthsuper: ofc he doesn’t have attosecond reaction with the stupidly OP speed force flash

He still has picosecond reactions which are something

Very fast still

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@akz said:

@darthsuper: ofc he doesn’t have attosecond reaction with the stupidly OP speed force flash

He still has picosecond reactions which are something

Very fast still

Yep, he's as fast as he should be.

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@akz said:

@firestarlord73194: that doesn’t make sense...

to move normally in a picosecond means in itself he has a picosecond reaction time which as the OP said is 13T x Light

The OPs math is wrong. He should not be multiplying 186,000 miles, because that’s not the distance pietro traveled. His head moved only a few inches which is a much shorter distance. It’s a picosecond reaction feat sure. But it’s not 13 trillion times light. It’s more like a few thousand times light. That’s a big difference

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@akz said:

@tvenger: he hit absolute speed against runner which is ♾

The way I remember it is that he went lightspeed to beat the runner:

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Quasar #58

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@firestarlord73194: time was frozen in picosecond s for him and to perceive time in picoseconds and move regularly means u can move 13 T x Light...

Also OP math is correct since he used 186,000 cos speed of light moves 186,000 miles per second...

So ye he was moving 13T x light and u have nothing to prove otherwise...

Comic writers even say Quicksilver is at least in the top 5 fastest characters these days...

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@tvenger: idk some wiki stated he hit Absolute speed which is infinite speed and also runner could always run millions and billions and trillions of times faster than light so OP said he went quadrillions of times x light...

It’s kinda confusing tho and makkari has not shown any other impressive feat like other times I see him only going Mach 5-25...

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@firestarlord73194: ngl the concept of the speed force is kinda stupid since no one can beat any speed force users anyway

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@akz said:

@tvenger: idk some wiki stated he hit Absolute speed which is infinite speed and also runner could always run millions and billions and trillions of times faster than light so OP said he went quadrillions of times x light...

It’s kinda confusing tho and makkari has not shown any other impressive feat like other times I see him only going Mach 5-25...

Makkari sheds tachyon particles as per Quasar. Dude is fast. I can provide scan if you like

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Looks like I held his speed in low regard.

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@akz said:

@firestarlord73194: time was frozen in picosecond s for him and to perceive time in picoseconds and move regularly means u can move 13 T x Light...

Also OP math is correct since he used 186,000 cos speed of light moves 186,000 miles per second...

So ye he was moving 13T x light and u have nothing to prove otherwise...

Comic writers even say Quicksilver is at least in the top 5 fastest characters these days...

No. To figure out the speed of anything you need to DIVIDE the distance traveled by the time it took to travel the distance. The feat posted only says that Pietro looked up for a picosecond. It did not say he ran from A to b in a picosecond (nor even indicated the distance or time of his run itself). It said he looked up for a picosecond. OP should not be multiplying by a Distance of 186,000 miles because that is not the distance his head and neck traveled to look up. We’re talking about a distance of a few inches. If we give Pietro the benefit of the doubt and not only count the time looking up but the time it took for him to put his head back down you’re talking about a generous highball distance of maybe 40 inches (considering some men’s necks can reach a length of about 19 inches) We should not be multiplying by 186,000 miles.

40 inches in a picosecond (1 trillionth of a second) is 40 trillion inches in a single second. We want to turn those inches into miles and compare that to how many miles per second light speed is. There is 63,360 inches in a mile. Therefore we divide 40 trillion by 63,360. 40 trillion/63,360 is 631,313,131. That means the speed of Pietro looking up and back down is at the speed of 631,313,131 miles a second. Now how much bigger is that in comparison to the miles per second light travels?

More specifically light travels at 186,282 miles per second. So we need to DIVIDE (not multiply) 631,313,131 mps by 186,282 mps. That means Pietro’s looking up is only 3,389 times the speed of light.

That is very fast. He can easily react to light. But 13 trillion times light is a gross over estimate based on incorrect math. We need to remember too this was only the speed of him looking up. This isn’t indicative of the speed he was actually running as the scan does not provide the distance or time of that. Logically him looking up would be much faster and only be a fraction of the time and distance of his actual run itself.

And back to my original point, this is from No Surrender, a storyline where quicksilver did not achieve these speeds all by himself. His sister and Synapse helped him to do it.

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@firestarlord73194: I only recall him getting his mental block removed so he don’t hurt ppl...

Also the writer himself states pietro himself is one of the if not fastest marvel character Rn...

I’d say he can go at least millions of times faster than light

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Surely his speed equalises with his perception of time

which theoretically means he goes 13T X light

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@akz: scans to further prove this is not quicksilver’s natural speed and he needed help:

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“My sister is a witch. She is using her magic to make me faster.”

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The feat in question is from Avengers issue 688. This scan is from issue 687, right before the feat. Pietro says “there is a beacon moving faster than you can see... even I cannot catch it... not on my own

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Next page. Synapse and QS agree his mind will not allow him to achieve those speeds. Not only does Wanda have to use her probability manipulation to amp Pietro‘s speed but Synapse has to amp his mind.

So this feat is NOT the same as the black hole feat. He did not do this on his own. This feat was only done with outside help. It’s a shared feat. OP is not considering this nor is he using the proper formula for speed. Speed is distance traveled divided by time. For whatever reason OP multiplies distance traveled (which is also wrong because QS looking up is not a distance of 186,000 miles) by the time.

Not sure if there is any proof the writers said QS is one of the fastest right now but that could be in the context of relevant speedsters that are appearing in comics currently. Saying he’s millions of times faster than light is only head canon and is not supported by any factual proof

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@akz said:

@firestarlord73194: it doesn’t matter cos its a permanent amp so it’s his speed now

Prove it’s a permanent amp. To my knowledge we have not seen quicksilver again since the no surrender storyline. Thus we are provided no information to say he can replicate this feat again on his own. And even so the feat itself isn’t millions of times ftl

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@firestarlord73194: if it’s the last time we saw him then it stands as his speed as of now...

nothing u could say to disprove the fact it’s his last feat so it is

also yes if u can perceive in picoseconds it means ur speed equalised with ur reaction times...

unless u think his eyes are seeing the rest of his body in slow motion which is dumb asf

when heroes like superman fly and perceive the world around them in picoseconds it means they are travelling 13T x Light as stated in comics and simple maths so...

unless u wanna make up ur own math now

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@akz: nice, u see how when you use logic you win arguments.

not being sarcastic thx

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@akz: are you still grumpy lmao

jk

:) have a nice day

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@akz: it was a joke chill out, in the website we start arguments not wars,

not being toxic good bye

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@firestarlord73194: yes flash is faster, then again, who tf is faster than flash, flash is the fastest character in fiction, it’s not fair to use him in battles anymore

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@akz: actually screw all of my arguments before this ur actually good,

uve disproved anything firestarlord has said before, ur doing good

also thx for backing me up with anyone who says otherwise in this thread

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@akz:

if it’s the last time we saw him then it stands as his speed as of now...

When it’s a feat that’s done via a powerup you can’t say it’s permanent unless it specifically says it is. When Superman is sundipped are we to assume it’s a permanent increase? No. In fact most cases are the contrary. But be that as it may even if it is permanent the feat itself isn’t 13 trillion times ftl

also yes if u can perceive in picoseconds it means ur speed equalised with ur reaction times...

No it’s not equal. Speed is contingent on the distance travelled, that’s how the basic formula for speed works. Run a mile and look up for a second. Now tell me which was faster, you looking up or the mile you ran? This feat says nothing about the distance he RAN or the time it took to run. It tells us how fast his neck is looking up, which is only a distance of a few inches. The distance he was running itself is much more than a few inches, which dictates it was slower. Maybe or maybe not by much, we don’t know because it doesn’t give us any information on how long he was running for in the scan alone

unless u think his eyes are seeing the rest of his body in slow motion which is dumb asf

Your perceptions are always faster than you running a significant distance. Pietros looking up should be quicker if he ran any distance further than a few inches since that’s how the basic formula for speed works. The feat only says the duration of how long he was looking up. That’s obviously not the same as running hundreds to thousands of miles. If you actually read the comic, which I assume you didn’t, his time spent running and the distance he traveled was many times just him lifting his head up for a quick picosecond. He’s still multiple times faster than light of course, but it’s not 13 trillion times light

when heroes like superman fly and perceive the world around them in picoseconds it means they are travelling 13T x Light as stated in comics and simple maths so...

A picosecond isn’t a universal speed, it’s merely a measure of time. The speed changes depending on the distance travelled. Speed equals distance/time. For such a simple math, the OP multiplied the wrong distance by time to get speed which is wrong. Have you tried doing the “simple math” yourself or you just blindly accepting his math because it favors a likable character?

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@akz: actually screw all of my arguments before this ur actually good,

uve disproved anything firestarlord has said before, ur doing good

also thx for backing me up with anyone who says otherwise in this thread

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He hasn’t disproved anything until he proves my math wrong. Seems like he’s just jumping on your bandwagon. Tell me why did you multiply 186,000 (a distance Pietro himself didn’t travel in the scan) by 1 trillion (corresponding to the picosecond) when the formula for speed is distance traveled divided by time?

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@firestarlord73194: ok so I’ve done the math op is only a bit off...

His legs should be going 3897301954 x Light

He also runs across continents in the comic and sees Namor frozen in time and then looks in the sky for a picosecond so we know a distance...

From the city to the sea so we know it’s a decent distance and he got there in a few picoseconds...

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4.16e10 m/s, 138.76c, MFTL

That’s his speed