Post Endgame - MCU/DCEU Power Tier List

This is a simple ranking of all of these characters, please post your thoughts and any changes you would want me to make or maybe I've forgotten some characters. Leaving out characters that have no feats like Odin tho.

Just High/Mids

TOAA

• Full Infinity Gauntlet Thanos/Iron Man/Hulk
• Dormammu

High end of High Tier

• Thanos with stones (But not complete gauntlet)
• Prime Surtur
• Karathen
• Superman
• Doomsday
• Power Stone Ronan
• Doctor Strange with the Eye
• Prime Stormbreaker Thor
• Bloodlusted Scarlet Witch

Mid End of High Tier

• Captain Marvel
• Doctor Strange
• Wonder Woman
• Ancient One
• Hela
• General Zod
• Thanos with Armor/Blade
• Ego/Celestial Star-Lord

Low End of High Tier

• Steppenwolf
• Thanos with no gear
• Kurse
• Ares
• Aquaman underwater
• Fat Stormbreaker/Mjolnir Thor
• Faora
• Ragnarok Lightning Mode Thor
• Nam-Ek

High End of Mid Tier

• Mjolnir Captain America
• Nanotech Iron Man
• Vibranium Ultron
• Amped Quake
• Hulk
• Giant Man
• Hulkbuster
• Graviton
• Fenris
• Shazam
• Doctor Sivana
• Vision

Mid End of Mid Tier

• Surtur in his small form
• Aquaman
• Oceanmaster
• Abomination
• Star-Lord with full gear
• Cull Obsidian
• Any of the Iron Man suits except Hulkbuster/Nanotech/Civil War
• War Machine
• El Diablo in Firegod Mode
• Wrath
• Yon Rogg with full gear
• Enchantress
• Darla
• Flash
• Quicksilver
• Wong
• Ebony Maw

Low end of Mid Tier

• Loki
• Any of the Guardians (Except Quill)
• Cyborg
• Mera
• Black Manta
• Civil War Iron Man
• Black Panther
• Iron Spider
• Quake
• Proxima Midnight
• Corvus Glaive
• Falcon with wings+ Caps shield

Post Thoughts!

@rem@skywalker95@subline few callouts

No placement for Cap anywhere? Just curious!

Thanos is clearly above stormbreaker Thor with armor and sword.... it’s explocitly clear if you watched endgame, and thanos easily belongs in the high high tier list. No one in the mid high tier list can beat him.

Doomsday belongs above Superman and thanos belongs either just above or just below those two. Probably just below, but I can see a good case for him fairing better in a fight against doomsday than Superman.

Fat Thor should be mid end high tier, being fat isn’t a significant enough nerf for him to be so far below fit Thor.

Hela and zod each belong in high high tier, easily above wonderwoman

Imo

@marvelbuffnerd: Oo yes I forgot Mjolnir Cap. I'm thinking about Low end high or high end mid for him.

Nice list overall while I do disagree with quite a few of these placements. Will make a list of which ones later.

I disagree with most of them but nice list appreciate it ?

@sexybayonetta22: Thanks, what would you change?

@tonymartial: Carol should be higher because just notice unexperienced one performed many SB prime Thor feats. + Thanos at base was mega joke to her. Arthur underwater should be higher because with telepathy and his strenght or fighting styles he is a god 9 high end of high tier. Ares is very underrated, he can even phase, teleport, mind mess, desintegrate divine weapons with touch etc.. Fenris should be higher. About Hulk it depends how savage he is. Most savage ( 2008 version ) should be mid end to high end, consistent hulk i agree and professor hulk is lowest tier. Mera should be higher in water, Kurse must be higher ( phase 2 Thor was to him like Steppenwolf to Superman ), Steppy should be on WW lvl + Arthur on land too. Wong should be at least one lvl higher because his performance in IW was impressive. Giant Man should be 1 lvl higher

@phillip33: Thanos is below Superman.

I agree with most of it, well done.

Are the bullets also in order? If so I need to look over it again.

I would switch Captain Marvel and Prime Thor though.

Low end of high tier-high end of high tier needs some changes.

@sexybayonetta22: Im a bit iffy on Carol going to the high end purely because we got a look at her combat speed and how she performed against Thanos (I was a bit underwhelmed). If Thanos had his blade I think he could've took her there thats why shes in the same level as him but above gearless Thanos. Eh Arthur only could use his his telepathy on marine life and he still was overpowered by Steppenwolf underwater (Yes he didnt have his trident so thats why hes around that level). Ares does have nice versatility but he still lost to Diana from her first movie. I agree I think I should bump Fenris/Wong up. I feel that Kurse/Steppy wouldnt do to well against the mid end, yes he was superior to Diana but thats because he had a suited power/gear set for her and Diana was jobbing. If she performed against him like she did against Doomsday he would've been destroyed. Giant Man? He just performed Hulk level feats really and Arthur on land would get destroyed by Diana.

@namebk: What would you change?

I don't agree with this list but there is no point in disputing with someone's opinion.

Too high

Karathen

Wanda

Ancient One

Powerstone Ronan

Too low

Thanos

General Zod

Doctor Strange

Hela

Ragnarok Thor

May have missed a couple things as well.

@powercosmic_: maybe. Only if he blitzes from the get go and doesn’t let up. Thanos has comparable stats across the board besides speed, with armor to bolster his already impressive durability and a oneshot weapon.

@tonymartial: Pretty much agree but I think Captain Marvel should switch with prime Thor.

Here's who should change imo:

• Steppenwolf, Faora, Nam Ek & Aquaman (Underwater) should be High Mid Tier.
• Wonder Woman should be Low High Tier.

This list is garbage. Superman above doomsday? Ego below hela, Thor, strange, ancient one and Wanda? Zod below wonder woman? Wonder woman a full tier above steppenwolf with 5 characters in between? Ares below steppenwolf!

And I'm not even going to touch MCU/DCEU comparisons.

Although you got the speedsters in right order. That's nice.

Odin created stars in canon comic, banished Hela, depowered Thor and defeated Laufey with casket which should make him TOAA Tier. He's not featless as you think.

@apex_pretador: tbf if Doomsday starts in Base Superman would probably stomp him. He's so much faster and DD struggled to drop a weakened Superman while current Superman is even stronger.

@apex_pretador: WW was keeping up with DD Superman statues her. He is leaps and bounds faster than DD. How would DD even touch him.

You sure about Diana? Her speed and sword makes it tricky for a lot of the low highs.

WW couldn't touch DD except one instance of cutting his hand off. Every other time she tagged DD, it was because Clark distracted him.

Whenever she tried to attack DD alone, she was getting danced around, or swatted away like a fly.

Great list!

@apex_pretador: Doesn't change the fact that she was keeping up with him. Iirc didn't she block all or at least most of his attacks as well. JL Superman straight up blitzed her multiple times.

@apex_pretador: He also statues her when he fights the Flash. The Flash also blitzed her to safety but Superman was comparable to him. DD has no speed feats close to JL Superman.

Also Superman almost solos DD if it wasn't for the nuke he'd have just BFR him.

Ronan and superman are too high, also scarlet is above thor, superman is below doctor strange but slightly above thor

@dayoscript: This is the most accurate.

"prime Thor" should be in the same tier as the other Thor's. Everyone in the list below him should be higher than him - Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, Hela, Thanos, and Wanda (although he might be able to take her). I also think Hulk (except maybe Endgame) should be in the same tier as him. They have fought twice and Thor has never put him down, and Hulk did at least as well against Thanos (excluding Infinity War ending), despite fighting him by himself.

I would say Steppenwolf and Ares are too low. People only believe Ares was weak because he lost to a rookie Diana. But if she didn’t exploit his weakness to divine attacks she would have lost for sure. He still had a huge physical advantage (and still had powerful hax) even after her awakening. He needs to be right above her. Justice League destroyed the DCEU tier system. The first time Steppenwolf invaded Earth they needed the combined might of Green Lanterns, the Old Gods and other legendary heroes to drive him back. The Old Gods generally scale to each other (so slightly stronger than Awakened Diana). And they had divine weapons and abilities. But then you need just one Atlantean, a Demigod and a Kyrptonian? It’s just weird and inconsistent, it just destroys the tier system. I’m not even going to talk about Superman in that movie. I don’t know where people get her being a side piece in the Doomsday fight. I think she had the most time in direct confrontation with him. And even if she was getting hit, she was taking them and getting right back up and doing damage as well. She didn’t get overwhelmed or extremely hurt or KOed.

OT: Wanda is too high tbh.

I would consider adding Hela on Asgard as well.

(I apologize for any weird spots, I typed this fast).

You forgot IG Iron Man...

@amonfire1776: added

@tonymartial: Thanks

thor and sw should fall to stage below. I dont think they are in the tier with the higer ones.

this is a great list....100 agree

Thanos should swap with Stormbreaker Thor. Thor and Hulk should both be in the same tier.

Dr Strange, Carol and Hela can all be argued higher as well.

Zod and Steppenwolf should be above Diana as well she’s too high.

This is very nice, one of the best I've ever seen.

Surtur should be a tier above the likes of Thor/Clark/DD etc.

Ego (and Celestial Star-Lord) should be way higher, around Surtur IMO.

I'd also put Prime Thor and Scarlet Witch on top of Mid-High Tier, Mjolnir Cap in Low-High Tier (on same level as Mjolnir Thor). Wong & Ebony Maw may be slightly higher IMO.

Other than that, great list.

The changes I'd make are in bold, but otherwise this is great!

Great list (Finally some respect for the guardians)