One Piece chapter 1092 debunk FTL Luffy

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Rip FTL base Luffy

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#3  Edited By EcoBlitz

The OP hate and cope in full effect. Let’s ignore literslly every feat and statement in the verse to Downplay lmao.

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#4  Edited By Deathu101

This reminds of the JJK mach 3 thing all over again. I wonder how much cope the one piece fans are gonna be projecting in the oncoming chapters plenty of salt I'll tell ya that.

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Here comes the copium "muh established LS character is actually MFTL"

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Here comes the copium "muh established LS character is actually MFTL"

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Lol Rip FTL snake man, at most only Gear 5 can be FTL now if he blitz kizaru.

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It seems base Luffy and Kizaru had an extended fight and Kizaru thought Luffy was "very tough to fight" following which he seems to have resorted to a new charged up attack that blitzed/overpowered Luffy? If base Luffy can keep up with Kizaru's standard cqc (which is LS as stated) and Kizaru even calls it a very tough fight, then this new charged up attack has to be faster, that's assuming Luffy actually got blitzed and not simply overpowered.

Wait for Raws.

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^ this is the copium

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^ this is the copium

You are coping enough.

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Ummmm.... Only if you have piss poor comprehensive skills.

Kizaru literally has direct combat feats with character (and even old past prime characters) who have ftl feats off of his light.

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Sentomaru blocked Kizaru twice back to back while he was in his light form. and using his light kick

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I would love to see the rocket science and mental gymnastic used to explain how Sentomaru is faster the Snakeman Luffy who is established as one of the fastest characters in the series. Same Sentomaru who was bewildered by base Luffy at the start of the time skip.

Mid tiers like Niji are already established as LS an have more "LS Statements" Kizaru

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There is fuckton more I can post but this topic getting redundant at this point.

I'll just post more at my own pace as I go along.

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@wushu59: Lol nothing here is relevant, spoilers of this chapter debunks those arguments , Lightspeed> Gear 4 snakeman, Only Gear 5 stands a chance of possibly being FTL now.

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#13  Edited By PooPooEater

this is a historic thread... mark my words itll have 9+ pages

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#14  Edited By vjbthe3

All he said is speed is power... why does that debunk anything?

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My favorite part of One Piece was learning that Luffy rhymed with Doofy and Goofy

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Kizaru = LS > Snakeman post-Wano Luffy > virtually everyone in the verse in speed

FTL One Piss in the 🗑️ where it belongs

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@vjbthe3 said:

All he said is speed is power... why does that debunk anything?

Because they are jumping the gun and assuming Luffy got blitzed...

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#18  Edited By Trideca001

@shirso: cause he did that’s literally Kizaru’s signature statement before he turns to light and warps , Lightspeed>gear 4 snakeman > one piece fastest chars. Luffy decided gear 4 luffy couldn’t keep up and used gear 5, so only Gear 5 has a chance of being FTL now.

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@molt said:

Kizaru = LS > Snakeman post-Wano Luffy > virtually everyone in the verse in speed

FTL One Piss in the 🗑️ where it belongs

Where tf is this part coming from Woody

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@vjbthe3: it doesn't. Kizaru basically pulled a punk hazard Luffy. Great power feat for kizaru though.

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@shirso: cause he did that’s literally Kizaru’s signature statement before he turns to light and warps , Lightspeed>gear 4 snakeman > one piece fastest chars.

Where is anything about Kizaru blitzing Luffy stated anywhere in the spoilers please point out, Luffy may very well have reacted and blocked but the attack was simply too strong and broke his guard.

Also if this is a new attack that comes after Luffy already had an even fight with Kizaru then it'd just mean it's superior to his standard level (LS).

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#23  Edited By Edgelord91

@shirso said:
@trideca001 said:

@shirso: cause he did that’s literally Kizaru’s signature statement before he turns to light and warps , Lightspeed>gear 4 snakeman > one piece fastest chars.

Where is anything about Kizaru blitzing Luffy stated anywhere in the spoilers please point out, Luffy may very well have reacted and blocked but the attack was simply too strong and broke his guard.

Also if this is a new attack that comes after Luffy already had an even fight with Kizaru then it'd just mean it's superior to his standard level (LS).

Facts. All it says is kizaru used a momentum powered strike to send Luffy flying. Luffy did the same thing to Caesar back in punk hazard. One piece downplayers need to calm down

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Lol the cope is strong with this OP stans.

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@wushu59: How many times must you be debunked Wushu

Rayleigh only managed to blitz Kizaru when he was off guard and didn't expect someone to come out of nowhere to aid pirates(strawhats) much less be able to interact with him.

Sentomaru was already in position when kizaru was moving.

Besides the Sanji one dosen't even count he was clowned on by king in that suit.The same king who was blitzed by Izo's gun and before you bring up muh "haki increases speed" no it dosen't that's headcanon and straight bs

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#26  Edited By Molt

@vjbthe3: Luffy couldn’t dodge Kizaru’s LS kick from very far away and instead got kicked into oblivion all while in his Snakeman form, when apparently his Base is FTL according to his stans 🤣

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@trideca001: one piece downplayers are just jumping the gun. There's no mention of kizaru out speeding Luffy in any capacity. We saw a similar interaction with sentomaru (clearly blocked the kick but got sent flying). If kizaru blitzes Luffy in the raws then that's that but nothing in the spoilers confirms or denies he did.

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Lol FTL base luffy is obviously a joke, he ain’t even Lightspeed in Gear 4 snakeman.

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Wait, you mean the fastest character in the verse is actually the fastest character?

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#31  Edited By Edgelord91

@supreme101: raid suit Sanji is confirmed LS that's a feat for king

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#32  Edited By Edgelord91

@katanalauncher: kizaru is stated to be the fastest ADMIRAL not the fastest character.

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@molt said:

@vjbthe3: Luffy couldn’t dodge Kizaru’s LS kick from very far away and instead got kicked into oblivion all while in his Snakeman form, when apparently his Base is FTL according to his stans 🤣

Once again can I see what in the spoilers imply a blitz ?

Also why do you ignore that Kizaru already had an extended fight against Luffy and considered him "very tough to fight" aka couldn't get any upper hand so this new charged up attack is superior to his standard level.

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@edgelord91: from this spoilers it’s pretty much clear lightspeed is a hurdle for snakeman, but I can wait for the chap to drop lol.

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@trideca001: all it says is kizaru used a momentum amped strike to send Luffy flying. Zero comments on how Luffy handled his speed and as shirso pointed them fighting for a unknown amount off screen and it being a struggle implies kizaru couldn't just blitz him to oblivion.

Plus we have to take observation haki into account

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The best thing to do is wait for the raws, but it ain’t looking good at all for the “mid tiers are LS/FTL” agenda. Though let’s be realistic, it hasn’t been looking good for a good while now.

Spoilers say Kizaru’s kick was charged a big distance away from Egghead and it still hit Luffy in his second fastest form. It’s most likely his standard LS kick since he traveled as a light beam to charge it + he said the same line about speed being power.

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@molt: If Kizaru’s kick is LS (which is easily the most likely scenario), then Luffy’s second fastest form has sub-rel to low rel reactions at best considering he couldn’t dodge LS from a considerable distance.

Though the best thing to do is wait for the raws, it’ll clear up any doubt/confusion.

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@molt said:

@shirso: Is Kizaru MFTL now?

First off, do you agree you are jumping the gun with this "Kizaru blitzed Luffy" thing when spoilers so far imply nothing of the sort? Wait for Raws.

If Kizaru had an extended cqc fight with Luffy and his standard LS kicks weren't enough then he seemingly unveils a new technique that let's say blitzes and overpowers Luffy then yes wouldn't the logical conclusion be this new technique is stronger and faster than his usual LS kicks?

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@edgelord91: Sentomaru deliberately stood in place because he wanted to demonstrate to Kizaru that he has the ultimate defense. I doubt Luffy has the same mindset, but who knows, the raws might show otherwise.

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@shirso: Can’t answer now as I’m using my phone

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@dimitri1220: yeah there's countless instances in fiction where a character blocks an attack and still gets sent flying.

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@supreme101: if that's your definition of a blitz there's no point in arguing

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So can we at least wait for the chapter to come out to draw conclusions?

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@supreme101: if that's your definition of a blitz there's no point in arguing

An attack that King was unable to react to. An attack that knocked his weapon away before he could react.....yeah it's a blitz quite literally statued.

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LMFAO

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@supreme101: he got his disarmed when he was off guard. Your really gonna ignore pre timeskip characters casually reacting to bullets🤡

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So can we at least wait for the chapter to come out to draw conclusions?

This ^

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@molt: this wasn't the move ls kick tho, he just says speed is power...