Niklaus Mikaelson Respect Thread

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The Original Hybrid

Bio

Turned around 1001. Niklaus Mikaelson is half original vampire, half werewolf. He was the main antagonist in the Vampire Diaries in season 2 and 3 before the spinoff of The Originals show where he is now the main protagonist.

Like almost all vampire lores, he shares some of the commonly known traits such as,

  1. superstrength
  2. speed
  3. Durability
  4. Immortality
  5. mind control
  6. Enhanced senses
  7. Blood thirst

Super-strength/ striking / Jump

(TO) Klaus easily kills the governor's son for daring to speak back at him.

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(TO) Klaus easily suspends a man in air by the neck without any signs of strain

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(VD, ssn4) Klaus arrives just in time to decapitate a witch with a square academic cap saving Caroline and her friends

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(TO, ssn 5) Klaus flips Greta and impales her hand with a large nail

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(VD, ssn4) He effortlessly overpowers Damon Salvatore (175 old vamp) and proceeds to torture him.

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(TO, ssn3) easily snaps Lucien's neck(1000 old vamp)

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Keep in mind a new born vamp can jump down a 100 meter cliff casually

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(TO, ssn 5) While we're still on the neck snapping feats, here he snaps the Beast's neck

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(TO, ssn3) He sends Rayna Cruz (vamp hunter) more than 20meters away with a casual backhand using a crowbar.

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(TO, ssn 2) He overpowers Finn's hold (who was inhabiting Vincent's body) while being amped by the ancestors

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The same Vincent un-amped, was powerful enough to flip a speeding SUV.

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(TO, ssn 5) Breaks out of Werewolf holding cell without breaking a sweat

https://youtu.be/KgOEqPmMMyI?t=96

(VD) He easily incapacitates Finn (Original body) before kidnapping him

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(TO, ssn1) He easily breaks out of Elijah's choke-hold and tosses him several meters away.

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(TO, ssn2) he shows he is strong enough to twist Elijah's arm.

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(TO, ssn2) During a fight with his father, he tackles him through a solid brick wall.

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(TO,VD) During a flashback, it took the combined effort of Mikael and Elijah to restrain Klaus when his curse was first broken and he was turning into a hybrid.

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(TO, ssn 3)sends Kol flying with a simple punch

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(TO, ssn4) Klaus easily flings Marcel (The beast) several meters away with an open palm strike.

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Also it took 4 fully transformed werewolves to incapacitate Rebekah(one of the weakest Originals) and that was due to their lethal bites. Yet she was still able to rip them to shreds. Klaus is one of the strongest if not the strongest Original vampires and since he is part werewolf, the venom won't incapacitate him like it did Rebekah allowing him to fight on.

https://youtu.be/YhwEGCpAl5w

In a few seasons back on VD, we're shown that a holding of around 5000 lbs is what it takes to at the very least, contain one transformed werewolf

https://youtu.be/PMaAfgzPEo4

Duarability

(TO, ssn1) He laughs through Tyler's( hybrid) punches, before overpowering him.

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(TO, ssn3) He tanks being thrown by Lucien over 30 meters away and gets back up easily

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(TO,VD) He tanks several attacks from Elijah.

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(TO, ssn3) He tanks a punch from Marcel( the beast) that sends him several meters away, smashing onto a pillar in the process.

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(TO, ssn3) He tanks a kick in the gut by Lucien (beast).

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(TO, ssn3) Gets dazed by a backhand from Lucien (beast) but he easily gets up without any damage.

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(TO, ssn3) It takes two of the same attack to even make him bleed but it's still not enough to knock him out.

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(TO, ssn 3) He takes a shovel to the face from Lucien (beast) and gets back up.

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Speed( combat, reaction, travel)

(TO, ssn2) He has shown to be able to outrun an amped Finn's ( Vincent's body) fire blast.

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(TO, ssn3) He fast enough to blitz three humans before they execute the order to kill their targets as by Cortez's compulsion in case Klaus tries to kill him.

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(TO, ssn2) He is able to blitz Freya

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(VD, ssn2) he easily reacts to a bullrush by Jules (werewolf) and rips her heart out.

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(VD, ssn3) He easily reacts to Stefan's bullrush when he tried to stake him with white oak.

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(TO, ssn 5) Klaus takes out 5 vampires at the flip of a coin

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(TO, ssn1) He is able to react to 2 bullrushing vampires

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(TO, ssn2) He is able to blitz ELijah.

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(TO, ssn 2) While teaming up with Dhalia, Klaus is able to intercept a speeding Elijah mid-blitz

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(TO) Klaus shows he is capable of fighting at superspeed when he attacks Lucien (the beast), a faster opponent

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(VD, ssn4) He is able to outrun (while carrying the hunter) a room sized explosion (clay-more) triggered by a Hunter who before that claimed to be faster than the average Hunter. The same explosion that Damon had trouble outrunning even after a head start and leaving Klaus behind.

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the hunter later wakes up in his RV with Klaus by his side.

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(TO, ssn1) He and Elijah outrun a floor sized explosion after he triggers several bombs with only moments to spare.

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They later look fine with no burn marks except for Jackson's initial injuries

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Senses

(TO, ssn2) He is able to to hear someone walking past their gate while he was upstairs in one of the rooms.

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(TO, ssn2) He teaches Hayley (new hybrid) how to use her sense of smell to find her pack.

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Combat skills

(TO, ssn2) He takes on an entire wolf pack and gaining the upper hand. It should be noted that these wolves were enhanced, making them a lot stronger than average werewolves.

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(TO, ssn1) He bests Elijah in a sword fight during one of their flashbacks.

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(TO, ssn2) Goes toe to toe with his father Mikael( ancient viking warrior) and gains the upper on 2 occasions before his father resorts to use Cami as a distraction.

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(TO, ssn4) Able to fight Marcel (The beast) on equal terms until Marcel uses his superior physicals to end the fight

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(TO, ssn4) Same Marcel was giving Elijah trouble during their brief fight.

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Compulsion

(VD, ssn3) He compels a woman to invite him inside her house.

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(VD, ssn3) Compels an initially resisting Stefan (then a vampire) to turn his humanity off and kill Elena(the then girlfriend).

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Healing factor/ immortality/ pain resistance

(TO, ssn1) gets staked from the back and easily pulls it out.

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(TO, ssn2) he easily quickly recovers after having his blood boiled in mere moments and attacks his mother.

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Speculation

It is a well known fact in their Universe that nothing short of the white oak( doesn't exist anymore), an extremely powerful witch, or a bite from Marcel ( the beast) can kill them so far. Guys like Damon have tried every trick they could with one of their bodies( Elijah) and they couldn't destroy him.

The same Damon was smart enough to try his tricks on another supposed immortal hunter and it confirmed the realness/credibility of immortality in the VD/TO universe after he killed Rayna.

She easily comes back to life. Proving the concept of immortality truly exists in their universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLq7dud4M2s

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Nice. Really good job making this connection. I'll read through rest later.

(TO, ssn 2) He overpowers Finn's hold (who was inhabitting Vincents body) while being amped by the ancestors

The same Vincent un-amped was powerful enough to flip a speeding SUV.'

I don't know if you have mentioned this or not, but what makes snapping necks of hundred year old vamps so impressive is the fact that Elena, the weakest vampire in whole series, did this.

I'll see if I can add anything else. Thanks a lot for doing this.

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@rbt said:

Nice. Really good job making this connection. I'll read through rest later.

(TO, ssn 2) He overpowers Finn's hold (who was inhabitting Vincents body) while being amped by the ancestors

The same Vincent un-amped was powerful enough to flip a speeding SUV.'

I don't know if you have mentioned this or not, but what makes snapping necks of hundred year old vamps so impressive is the fact that Elena, the weakest vampire in whole series, did this.

I'll see if I can add anything else. Thanks a lot for doing this.

Yeah, I'll probably add that and a few others as I find them

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Great, finally a respect thead for Klaus. Maybe people on here will stop trying to claim Selene before blood wars buff had any chance vs him (and imho, even after). That being said, with 5 mins to work, going to go over it later.

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Marcel is still stronger

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Marcel is still stronger

Obviously the current one is. The one before the upgrade was way weaker

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Nice Klaus is a favorite of mine even though the writing in his show has gone down the toilet

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Going through this is nice, I like a lot of the connections you made, like how the same spells could flip a SUV that he casually powered through, and I didn't recall the 5000lb at least, for a normal werewolf - which is he well beyond.

But anyway, in the speed feats, one should keep in mind he is an original, perhaps the best of them - and back in TVD we saw another Original using that kind of speed to run across an entire town in what seemed near instantaneous (to get to Elana's house). By the time Elana could even finish her sentence... Again, we don't know how big Mystic falls really is, but that is pretty impressive. And by A->B->C logic, Klaus should easily be able to replicate that.

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Nice Klaus is a favorite of mine even though the writing in his show has gone down the toilet

They messed him up. I can see him working in pet shop at his current state.

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Going through this is nice, I like a lot of the connections you made, like how the same spells could flip a SUV that he casually powered through, and I didn't recall the 5000lb at least, for a normal werewolf - which is he well beyond.

But anyway, in the speed feats, one should keep in mind he is an original, perhaps the best of them - and back in TVD we saw another Original using that kind of speed to run across an entire town in what seemed near instantaneous (to get to Elana's house). By the time Elana could even finish her sentence... Again, we don't know how big Mystic falls really is, but that is pretty impressive. And by A->B->C logic, Klaus should easily be able to replicate that.

I wanted to use that though I thought it to be a bit vague since we don't really know Kol's starting distance. There was another feat of Elijah covering two hours worth of driving distance in just a few seconds. I was going to use it on Elijah's thread

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@macleen: Hey man, you wanna team up with the Elijah respect thread?

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@macleen: Hey man, you wanna team up with the Elijah respect thread?

sure I'm game. I have several feats I have been collecting during the start of last weekend

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@macleen said:
@citizensurfer said:

@macleen: Hey man, you wanna team up with the Elijah respect thread?

sure I'm game. I have several feats I have been collecting during the start of last weekend

Alright cool, what program have you been using to get the GIFs?

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@citizensurfer:imgflip so far, I was also looking to try giphy. You?[ inbox]

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@macleen: yeah he was such a compelling, eloquent, badass now he's just a whiny baby daddy

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@marvelanddcfan24: @macleen: Would you guys be willing to be my patrons in the Hunger Games tournament? I'm using Marcel and I'm at a disadvantage right now

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@macleen: Subsonic, maybe?

Really, I always wondered how fast you have to be to cover roughly 10 meters and appear behind your opponent without even being percieved

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@macleen: That's about 40 ft in 10 frames(~0.4 sec). So, 100fps roughly.

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@rbt said:

@macleen: That's about 40 ft in 10 frames(~0.4 sec). So, 100fps roughly.

That's sounds rather slow. I read somewhere for some one not to be perceived by the human eye at all at short distance they need to be around 550mph

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@macleen said:
@rbt said:

@macleen: That's about 40 ft in 10 frames(~0.4 sec). So, 100fps roughly.

That's sounds rather slow. I read somewhere for some one not to be perceived by the human eye at all at short distance they need to be around 550mph

Source? Bonnie did not see Klaus moving at all. What makes this even more impressive is the fact that witches have enhanced reflexes. With slight amp, Bonnie was able to react to Damon trying to blitz her.

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@rbt said:
@macleen said:
@rbt said:

@macleen: That's about 40 ft in 10 frames(~0.4 sec). So, 100fps roughly.

That's sounds rather slow. I read somewhere for some one not to be perceived by the human eye at all at short distance they need to be around 550mph

Source? Bonnie did not see Klaus moving at all. What makes this even more impressive is the fact that witches have enhanced reflexes. With slight amp, Bonnie was able to react to Damon trying to blitz her.

https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?680659-How-fast-an-object-can-the-human-eye-see

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#26  Edited By ThEBeStOfTheBeST

@macleen said:
@rbt said:

@macleen: That's about 40 ft in 10 frames(~0.4 sec). So, 100fps roughly.

That's sounds rather slow. I read somewhere for some one not to be perceived by the human eye at all at short distance they need to be around 550mph

At best, he was moving near speed of sound or subsonic. Although, the Originals are known for their incredible reflexes and speed, Elijah did casually catch a wooden bullet IIRC, I can't exactly remember the type of the gun used. Be that as it may, with high ends they should be supersonic.

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@rbt: Which is why I said they display supersonic reflexes with high-ends. So, how fast do you think is Damon with consistent showings? I have yet to finish my Salvatore Brothers respect thread, I got caught up with rl stuff and all.

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@thebestofthebest: They are subsonic. This is the only supersonic reaction feat I remember from either Salvatore brothers.

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@macleen said:
@rbt said:
@macleen said:
@rbt said:

@macleen: That's about 40 ft in 10 frames(~0.4 sec). So, 100fps roughly.

That's sounds rather slow. I read somewhere for some one not to be perceived by the human eye at all at short distance they need to be around 550mph

Source? Bonnie did not see Klaus moving at all. What makes this even more impressive is the fact that witches have enhanced reflexes. With slight amp, Bonnie was able to react to Damon trying to blitz her.

https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?680659-How-fast-an-object-can-the-human-eye-see

I don't know how reliable this is, tbh.

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@rbt, @thebestofthebest, @theonewhopullsthestrings,

Okay, after doing some digging, this is what I came up with, not sure if it's correct.

Based on this SS we can tell its an American Highschool Basketball court which have a dimension of 25.6x 15.4 meters

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and the Humans that he compelled were right on the division line

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He was roughly 1 meter away and they never moved away the entire period since Klaus compels them. You can also see the three point line behind Elena

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He is still behind Elena ( when she screamed at Bonnie) right before he superspeeds towards Bonnie

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That gives us 25.6/2 = 12.8, 12.8 - 1 meter = 11.8 ( distance Klaus was before he blizted). This distance doesn't take into account the distance Bonnie was outside the court.

The reaction time for Matt who is their high school quarterback and team captain and Bonnie who was a powerful Witch( they tend have some crazy reaction times) which could be anywhere between peak human and more. So 100- 150 miliseconds

S= d/t

11.8/0.1 = 118.2 m/s = 264 mph

That would be the maximum speed either Bonnie or Matt would be able to react to. So Klaus would be moving at speeds more than 264 mph.

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#33  Edited By Sanctifye

Really enjoyed this thread. The originals don’t get the respect they deserve.

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edited the gifs. Season 5 updates will up in a few days

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@macleen: Vampire Diaries had it worse imo -_-

Stefan literally sacrificed everything for his friends, and in the end he had to sacrifice his life as well.....Huwatt!?

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@macleen: I think you should add something about their telepathy. Like reading thoughts, sharing memories, manipulating memories. Or even manipulating their reality, like what Silas did to make Klaus believe he was dying.

Also how they are very durable to telepathy. That's why it was a big deal that Silas was able to get into Klaus's head. It's also why Damon had to use Sage (a 900+ year old vampire) to read Rebekah' s thoughts, even though she was asleep during it.

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@boc said:

@macleen: I think you should add something about their telepathy. Like reading thoughts, sharing memories, manipulating memories. Or even manipulating their reality, like what Silas did to make Klaus believe he was dying.

Also how they are very durable to telepathy. That's why it was a big deal that Silas was able to get into Klaus's head. It's also why Damon had to use Sage (a 900+ year old vampire) to read Rebekah' s thoughts, even though she was asleep during it.

I'll work on it when I get the time

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Nice thread

I was originally(heh) thinking of making one in a few days.

Glad to see it’s already been done.

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Great thread

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@macleen said:

@rbt, @thebestofthebest, @theonewhopullsthestrings,

Okay, after doing some digging, this is what I came up with, not sure if it's correct.

Based on this SS we can tell its an American Highschool Basketball court which have a dimension of 25.6x 15.4 meters

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and the Humans that he compelled were right on the division line

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He was roughly 1 meter away and they never moved away the entire period since Klaus compels them. You can also see the three point line behind Elena

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He is still behind Elena ( when she screamed at Bonnie) right before he superspeeds towards Bonnie

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That gives us 25.6/2 = 12.8, 12.8 - 1 meter = 11.8 ( distance Klaus was before he blizted). This distance doesn't take into account the distance Bonnie was outside the court.

The reaction time for Matt who is their high school quarterback and team captain and Bonnie who was a powerful Witch( they tend have some crazy reaction times) which could be anywhere between peak human and more. So 100- 150 miliseconds

S= d/t

11.8/0.1 = 118.2 m/s = 264 mph

That would be the maximum speed either Bonnie or Matt would be able to react to. So Klaus would be moving at speeds more than 264 mph.

@macleen Nice calc, you ever look into doing more of this, it'll clear up so much.

One thing though, using peak human reactions just because he's a football player seems excessive, and bonnie has regular human level reactions, one way calcs are done for situations like this is to do a high end and low end one, the high end would be this and the low end would be regular human reactions, and the final value can be taken as somewhere between.

Anyways, nice calc, you should do more

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#45  Edited By KALADAR007

※Nice one. Try including at your leisure. Klaus magical durability( ?) of being daggered for over 5 years in a boundary spell with no means of sustenance yet his magic sustained Rebekah, Kol and Elijah with Freya (I think) from the cursed stake and beast venom bite.

※How klaus magic is able to imprison the greatest witch and her darkness in his body.

※That Klaus was at his weakest in transition yet took a good beating from Bonnie channeling a 100 witches (The same one(s) who destroyed hell and controlled hellfire). It was also alleged that if she were to kill him in that state she will die.

※Resistance to Illusion such as when Klaus was able to spot and break out of the illusions casted by the harvest girls and Genevieve.

※How Klaus was able resist the hollow illusion to a great extent by not Killing Marcel(Beast) for example

※How Klaus is able to break from Finn ( in Vincent's witch body) telepathic or mental illusion and how is able to decode that of Aurora and Aya(?) REPRESENTATION ON THE CHESS BOARD.

※ Some thoughts on abilities such as empathy, thought sharing, telepathy, mind control, reality warping etc

※Cheers

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he still loses to stiles tho

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Still loses to glory

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Still loses to glory and dark willow.

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@punyaamrit: Stiles who? If you're talking About TW Klaus Fodderizes the entire TW universe.

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I'd say the best we logically can say about reaction speed is mach 1.