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Posted by StrongerThanRin (450 posts) 3 months, 10 days ago

Poll: Naruto and Sasuke are continent busters confirmed? (45 votes)

sure why not 62%
idk...is this even canon? 18%
friggin bs 20%
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from a Naruto novel, takes place after war arc

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#1 Edited by SaltySultan (261 posts) - - Show Bio

knowing this website people will just deny it, muh consistency.

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#2 Edited by MangoNation (65 posts) - - Show Bio

Source?

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#3 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes he is, the fact he no sold a continental attack, the fact he went halfies on creating a moon, etc.

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#4 Edited by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

Also Sasuke straight up told Boruto that he had to hold back or he'd bust the surrounding lands, lands being the Country's "land of fire" etc.

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#5 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@mangonation: it’s from the novel shikamaru shinden : A cloud dancing in forlorn falling petals

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#7 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@strongerthanrin: wrong novel that’s shikamaru hiden this is from shikamaru shinden

http://shadlay.tumblr.com/post/176663909448/shikamaru-shinden-chapter-8

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#8 Posted by StrongerThanRin (450 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Posted by nogoodtsuna2 (146 posts) - - Show Bio

then i guess this debunks seth's video on Naruto and Sasuke being planetary lmao

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#10 Posted by KAMInoChIkArA (47 posts) - - Show Bio

sadly people will try to debunk this

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@nogoodtsuna2: Seth is a highballer at least he highballs all verses though and not just 1.

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#12 Posted by jordonvang (182 posts) - - Show Bio

Sounds about right

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#13 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

We got our first "friggin BS" and they didn't leave any reasons RIP.

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#14 Edited by FaradaySloth (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

This only states Continental AP, not Continental busting which the manga outright shows they aren't close to this. Besides, this is Shikamaru's word, proof that he 100% knows this?

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#15 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: he's Naruto's right hand man and advisor so he probably knows a lot about Naruto.

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Also the manga never shows their not close to this in fact it shows they are

Via creating a moon and no selling a moon splitting beam.

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#17 Posted by FaradaySloth (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: he's Naruto's right hand man and advisor so he probably knows a lot about Naruto.

K. Proof he 100% knows this?

@faradaysloth: Also the manga never shows their not close to this in fact it shows they are

Via creating a moon and no selling a moon splitting beam.

Naruto and Sasuke never created a moon.

No selling an attack (which that said attack isn't moon level btw) doesn't equate you to anything busting wise.

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#18 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (4735 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, I think it's pretty clear, there are several things pointing to it. Shikamaru's statement, Sasuke talking to Boruto, Naruto overpowering Toneri's GWRE casually, etc.

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#19 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: it was said twice in the same chapter by two different characters that they could mess with the continent if they wanted to

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#20 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

What part of being he's personal advisor wasn't clear?

Yes they did.

It's continental+ and it proves he's on that level

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#21 Posted by FaradaySloth (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: it was said twice in the same chapter by two different characters that they could mess with the continent if they wanted to

I see nothing confirming busting level then.

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#22 Posted by TheVivas (19492 posts) - - Show Bio

Not surprised to see Faraday trying to “debunk” this with his usual BS. Surprised he hasn’t tried calling for backup from his cronies tho.

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#23 Posted by FaradaySloth (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

What part of being he's personal advisor wasn't clear?

Only thing that was clear that there wasn't proof that he knows this.

Yes they did.

Scans?

It's continental+ and it proves he's on that level

What? Where is this logic coming from?

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#24 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: you're not even making sense here. Why wouldn't he know, why would he lie? Why would the author make him lie? Why would the closest person to Naruto lie when he's seen everything he can do?

What about the other people there? Why didn't they question him? Maybe because they know how strong he is.

You know what moon feat I'm talking about everyone knows about the yinyang seal.

Tanking a Continental attack means you can operate on that level if you couldn't operate on that level you wouldn't tank the attack.

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#25 Posted by FaradaySloth (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: you're not even making sense here. Why wouldn't he know, why would he lie? Why would the author make him lie? Why would the closest person to Naruto lie when he's seen everything he can do?

When did I say he lied? Lol, just zero proof that the 100% knows this. Being an advisor doesn't mean anything. He has seen everything he could do eh? So he must have sene this continent busting attack then...oh wait...

What about the other people there? Why didn't they question him? Maybe because they know how strong he is.

Maybe that wasn't on their minds? Not sure how you connect not questioning to them knowing what bust tier he's at with no explanation.

You know what moon feat I'm talking about everyone knows about the yinyang seal.

No scans I see. And I honestly don't know what "moon level feat" you're talking about.

Tanking a Continental attack means you can operate on that level

Kek. No it doesn't. Proof?

if you couldn't operate on that level you wouldn't tank the attack.

Proof?

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#26 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: I'm not dealing with someone so willingly ignorant.

Everyone in this thread understands except you, not my problem it's yours.

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#27 Posted by FaradaySloth (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: I'm not dealing with someone so willingly ignorant.

Everyone in this thread understands except you, not my problem it's yours.

It's okay Ezrael.

Ezrael's posts, I mean Tetsukage's posts in a nutshell.
Ezrael's posts, I mean Tetsukage's posts in a nutshell.

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#28 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: not sure what that means but thanks for proving my point.

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#29 Edited by webinyoureye11 (5757 posts) - - Show Bio

No featz = impossible

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#30 Posted by Heatforce (6278 posts) - - Show Bio

Not surprised. Even lowballing, Continental is the least they could do.

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#31 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio
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#32 Posted by PrimelyGreat (618 posts) - - Show Bio

But what does Seth think?

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#33 Posted by UltimateSage (3122 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr. Sloth coming in with his lo-...

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#34 Posted by StrongerThanRin (450 posts) - - Show Bio

@primelygreat: Seth would highball calling them Planetary lvl lmaooo

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#35 Posted by Heatforce (6278 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Posted by GXrevs06 (4771 posts) - - Show Bio

Bullshit. A collision between their most powerful attacks barely damaged the VOTE and the two statues

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#37 Posted by Godren (3757 posts) - - Show Bio

Shikamaru also said only ninja have chakra in the entire world kek.

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#38 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevs06: prove that was Naruto's strongest attack.

Also it was uprooting the ground a country away, stop with the low-ball.

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#39 Edited by ProgrammerSeth (82 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage said:

@gxrevs06: prove that was Naruto's strongest attack.

Also it was uprooting the ground a country away, stop with the low-ball.

Uprooting =/= busting lol

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#40 Edited by ourmanuel (11918 posts) - - Show Bio

1) He never implied it would be in one shot or that it would be each of them single handedly. BSM naruto can destroy a country, so think about that here.

2) by feats they’re small country even with all the amps under the sun. Don’t bring up the potency argument because it won’t work here when he talks about them destroying the continent.

3) naruto got KO’d trying to contain a large island level explosion.

4) Sasuke definitely can’t destroy a continent in one go lol.

5) GWRE isn’t continental.

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#41 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@programmerseth: It didn't even touch the ground that was pure shockwave/aftermath

Also prove it was his strongest attack.

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#42 Posted by Azureus (2701 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevs06 said:

Bullshit. A collision between their most powerful attacks barely damaged the VOTE and the two statues

Why is that an anti feat?

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#43 Edited by katanalauncher (3642 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto god tiers have mutiple continental and up level feats, why do we need some questionably canon LN statement for it?

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#44 Edited by UltimateSage (3122 posts) - - Show Bio

BM naruto: Multi-Mountain to Island level

BSM naruto: Island to small country level

SOSP teen naruto: Country to continental level

BSM LAST naruto: continental+ AP

SOSP HOKAGE naruto: Multi-Continental to Moon level AP.

It's the way I see it:/

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#45 Edited by Adi_Frost (582 posts) - - Show Bio

Well when Shikamaru states the entire continent, he means all the countries like the fire country, the rock country etc, as the entire world of Naruto lies on a single continent and considering the Naruto world is the same size as our earth then each of the country individually is continent size to begin with. So, taking the statement as it is, it means that they can together destroy a land mass the size of multiple continents.

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#46 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage said:

@faradaysloth: you're not even making sense here. Why wouldn't he know, why would he lie? Why would the author make him lie? Why would the closest person to Naruto lie when he's seen everything he can do?

What about the other people there? Why didn't they question him? Maybe because they know how strong he is.

You know what moon feat I'm talking about everyone knows about the yinyang seal.

Tanking a Continental attack means you can operate on that level if you couldn't operate on that level you wouldn't tank the attack.

You two are making the same tired old patterned arguments of "Statements vs Feats" and the divide between debaters. It has happened in all debates beyond Naruto. In Comics, Video Games alike.

There should be a dividing method on classifying debaters by values. You two for once and those like the two of you.

Featists, Hyper-Featists (people who are strict on feats and question the reliability of a character of why he would say another character is as strong as that and etc.).

And Statists (people who are fine with implied power, and statements to gauge power of a character).

Neither of your views are really wrong though. Because I've seen debaters who flip flop between the two positions of standards.. Depending on self convenience.

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#47 Posted by nogoodtsuna2 (146 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto feats logic be like: "wuuuh? i don belieeeeeve in OUTLIEEEEEEERRRS!"

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#48 Edited by ourmanuel (11918 posts) - - Show Bio

@adi_frost said:

. So, taking the statement as it is, it means that they can together destroy a land mass the size of multiple continents.

This implies that he meant they could do it in one shot rather than over time.

it also implies that each of the 5 great nations would be at least the size of the USA.

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@gxrevs06 said:

Bullshit. A collision between their most powerful attacks barely damaged the VOTE and the two statues

Why is that an anti feat?

why isn’t it? That attack didn’t even reach the ground, meaning it had like small country AOE at best. And Naruto got depleted trying to contain momoshiki’s TBB, yet that wasn’t even close to continental or even country if the Viz translation is right

Based on that, they simply can’t be able to bust a continent.

And for obvious reasons, potency doesn’t matter here.

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#49 Posted by ourmanuel (11918 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevs06: prove that was Naruto's strongest attack.

... is this a serious question?

Also it was uprooting the ground a country away, stop with the low-ball.

It was a small country away and that was just the shockwave

And that’s not a big deal lol

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#50 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: yes I was him to prove it was is strongest attack, I can prove it wasn't.