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I do have a list for all my favourite live action superhero CBMs already so I might do one for my current Top 10 favourites if I feel like it or it's requested. But with the superhero movie at its all time height in popularity, the critical negativity towards superhero movies of the over the top dark/depressing kind recently and how strongly us fans can feel towards something that we believe doesn't do the character or the comics justice, it's obvious we don't like every CBM that comes out. These are my top 10 worst comic book movies:

And yes the two you already expect me to choose when you saw my blog's title will be on here.

#10: X-Men Origins: Wolverine

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Guess Stryker finally figured how to shut you up huh?

Just beating out the first two Fantastic Four movies is Fox's first attempt to expand on the origin and backstory of the stand out star, and limelight hogger of the original X-Men trilogy; Wolverine. Origins was supposed to bring out the best for Marvel's most famous Canadian anti hero badass but ended up as a cliche filled, monotonous and disappointing movie about Wolverine's background before the X-Men. I find that my main problems with Origins lie in its acting choices, its uninteresting characters, a generic uninspiring script and its insult to injury with the fanbase. A lot of the actors don't really fit their roles, like what was up with will.i.am as John Wraith? There was no point in casting a hip hop artist with no experience in any kind of film role. Same with Lynn Colins as Logan's love interest Silverfox, she had absolutely nothing to do with the comic character whatsoever and was as generic as love interests get in action movies. I remember thinking the script is like every other action movie ever with one liners that have been done so much better. And it would be remiss not to mention Fox's butchery of Barakapool in the final act that wasted Reynolds' immense potential in playing Wade Wilson. Thankfully that has been rectified by now. There may have been one or two decent scenes like the world war opening and the Weapon X transformation but ultimately Origins is a dull superhero movie.

#9: Man of Steel

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What was I supposed to do? Just let them die? Maybe...

You didn't think I would forget my beef with the genesis of the controversial comic book movie now did you? Of course you didn't, I have expectations to keep up. You probably already know why I have this film on here, for my further thoughts on Man of Steel, see my review of it (Note my thoughts on the action, visual effects, cinematography and Henry Cavill/Kevin Costner's performance as Superman/Jonathan Kent no longer reflect what my review has originally said) but I'll break down a summary for newer readers. This movie intended to introduce Superman to a newer and modern audience and Nolan, Goyer, Snyder and the WB execs believed the way to do this was to make Superman appear more realistic. Unfortunately, Man of Steel's darkness, grittiness and depressing tone cemented it as one of my all time least favourite CBMs. I still believe MOS represents a fundamental misunderstanding and misrepresentation of Superman's character, mythology and reasons he's appealing. What's more, the pacing is shockingly imbalanced throughout the film dragging the overly stuffy lot which is attempting to sound deeper than it really is through fancy buzz words and overt symbolism. The main cast is wooden and never get the chance to present the characters they're playing as because they're slaves to the script and to espousing plot exposition. I find Zack's cinematography to be always trying to go for some intended higher meaning rather than trying to tell a story or a scene. And as for the action, I found it skin crawling over the top violent destruction porn to the point that even Michael Bay might say "Woah Zack isn't this a little too much?" Man of Steel doesn't go for the interesting complexity which lies in Superman's gentle yet staunch selflessness, in doing the right thing no matter what and standing for something greater that humanity can aspire to. Instead, it opts for a bleak, morally ambiguous introspective look at Superman which misses what the character is about. It may be higher than some of the other choices on my list but honestly I personally enjoy watching some of them more than Man of Steel.

#8: Daredevil

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I'm not the bad guy, kid.

I still need to watch the rest of the Netflix Daredevil series and avoid the Netflix related battle board threads because that does a superb job at making a captivating and immersive Daredevil story. The 2003 Daredevil film does not have that luxury to me, along with like 90% of the comic book fanbase if I had to guess. It represents what was most wrong with the early 2000s attempts at superhero movies, being overly dark and dramatic for the sake of it. Whilst other movies like Raimi's Spider-Man and Singer's X-Men learnt how to balance a fun and serious tone, Daredevil tried to play it straight all the time and that's why I think it fell flat on its face. Because trying to make itself seem serious when the audience is unable to take the story and characters seriously. Affleck's Daredevil is waay too melodramatic, I don't recall Daredevil being a mopey emo about the state of his life. The absurdity of the weird bath coffin scene and the shower scene did not help the film's titular character portrayal in the least. Jennifer Garner's Elektra was even worse, I think a skit from The Nostalgia Critic's review of Daredevil summarises Elektra's problem. She's hyped up to be a capable independent badass match for Daredevil but then instantly loses to the first antagonist she goes up against. It undermines all the earlier depictions of Elektra and makes them pointless. Irish Bullseye was a weird and inconsistent choice of villain, Bullseye is crazy but not the kind of crazy like the film thinks he is. I haven't gone into much of the writing, story or action but honestly it's forgettable and generic, at least with other bad or hated CBMs you can remember parts of it and the bits you didn't like. Some people say the Director's Cut is apparently better and fleshes out the characters along with establishing more plot and a subplot that was cut but I haven't seen it and this doesn't get the ultimate edition excuse.

#7: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Mm, Bruce Wayne meets Clark Kent. Ah, I love it! I love bringing people together!

When Man of Steel discussion and interest was at its peak on Comicvine, I got more involved in it being the big critic of MOS that I am. And not just whether it was overall good but the many nitty gritty facets that were debated in numerous individual threads made to discuss one part of the film. I haven't done that with BvS so much, at least not the nitty gritty debate for one main reason. I hold MOS in great disdain for what it did to my favourite character and what Snyder started to do to people's perceptions on Superman with MOS. So it did surprise me that I was expecting to only dislike BvS about the same as I do MOS and lo and behold, it exceeds my expectations and manages to be actually worse than Man of Steel. I thought that was quite the achievement. BvS takes everything I disliked about MOS and doesn't just pour salt on the wound, it makes all new wounds on top of that one. The acting is even worse including in characters that weren't so bad in MOS such as Laurence Fishbourne's Perry White. My views on BvS' pacing were that it was even worse at dragging its feet across the ground than MOS, exemplified in the fact that the titular fight doesn't start until nearly two hours into the movie, over 2 hours I think in the Ultimate Edition. I saw the same attempts to be deep and meaningful that were merely superficial and only skin deep in what the film actually conveyed. I read a plot that was clunkier and muddled up than MOS' narrative. Oh and what I thought were misunderstandings of Superman, Lois Lane, The Kents and more in MOS got trumped with Batman, Lex Luthor and Doomsday (to be fair Affleck did try his best and was probably one of the better actors, the problem was the script and Snyder) My god, Jesse Eisenberg was the absolute worst, it's all been said and done so there's nothing you won't have already heard about how badly Eisenberg was as Lex Luthor. I genuinely cannot believe there are those actually willing to defend him, it boggles my mind. I can get the defence of Zod but the Lex Luthor in BvS was only Lex in name, not in action or characterisation. Jesse's maniacal, babbling and shrill portrayal was not the smug, calculating or supremely ego-centric drive of the Lex Luthor I'm familiar with. Doomsday is every bad CGI joke or meme you've already seen. I found the attempted meta responses to MOS to miss the point of why the criticisms were made. The action repeated Zack's flashy destruction porn fetish and attempted to sugar coat it with abandoned battlegrounds (with the exception of the warehouse fight I'll concede that one was good) Of course the increased dark broodiness of BvS was not to my liking for reasons already explained. With the dust settled, BvS represented a fundamentally damaged interpretation of DC's finest characters IMO and made me even surer in how poorly I feel towards the DCEU and its future as another expanded cinematic universe alongside its more successful MCU counterpart. Where that has me invested, BvS has antagonised and pushed me away by the road Snyder and WB have chosen to go down for DC's on screen universe. And it pains me because I love DC Comics and its characters which is why BvS' fundamental failures are all the more painful to me.

#6: Fant4stic

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They're not superpowers, they're aggressive cellular reactions.

I suppose after all I wrote about MOS and BvS you might think there aren't CBMs I dislike more. Admittedly Fant4stic is closely tied with BvS but one of the main differences is the warehouse fight's choreography. In contrast, the action in Fant4stic is lackluster, not immersive enough to overlook the blatant CGI and the final fight is apparently terribly anti climatic. Action is the least of Fant4stic's problems though. Josh Trank' warped versions of Marvel's first family of superheroes represent absolutely nothing of the Fantastic Four I grew up with and loved. I don't buy the Ultimate FF defence either, source material representation was clearly not on Trank or the studio's mind. Worse, the botched mockery of Victor Von Doom in this film is criminal, and that's saying something considering how the first Fantastic Four films made Doom a regular rich corportate tycoon who hooked up with Reed's ex and behaved like a dick with electricity powers who wanted to rule the world. This Doom is a moody lab assistant of Dr Storm who gets telekenetic powers from the Planet Zero dimension and suddenly wants to destroy the world. Moreover, the story just jumps ahead a year for no reason after the FF get their powers, that made no sense The main cast just doesn't feel comfortable in the skin of the FF and most damning of all, I never saw this as an FF film. It feels like a Chronicle film or a Prometheus film but never a Fantastic Four film. Hence why I call it Fant4stic. Even the cheesy and cliched FF films felt like bad Fantastic Four films. This is ashamed of what it was based on, it takes away from the fun and adventure inherent to the FF and as such I've never seen Fant4stic in full. Yeah it's that bad that I never even went to see it at all and damn 20th Century Fox if they're dumb enough to make a sequel to this failure.

#5 Green Lantern

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I'm gonna make you look good up there. Don't worry, okay? Now let's get these pants off and fly some planes.

The thing about Green Lantern is I have to admit I may have been looking forward to it when we only had the trailers to go on. It was a different time, I was more foolish and not as wise on CBM quality and it looked like it would draw heavily from Geoff Johns' Green Lantern run which was a new benchmark for the Green Lantern mythology at DC Comics. Unfortunately what we ended up with was a colossal disappointment. Right when Marvel was setting up its cinematic universe, DC throw a stinker with this movie. Its effects are terrible considering the standard of CGI technology available to films and the result was a cringeworthy Green Lantern uniform. Blake Lively gave a tone deaf performance as Carol Ferris, I only need to remind you of "Hal, this test today. It's important" as the most bland delivery in this movie. Hector Hammond and Parallax were the most disappointing villains, Hammond because of his non-fleshed out motivations and rushed power up and Parallax for just being a giant CGI monster only there to fight before BvS' Doomsday was a thing. It is a shame as there were a couple all right performances from Michael Clarke Duncan as Kilowagg and Mark Strong as Sinestro but that's nowhere near enough to save this boring, underwhelming film. The story makes little sense even to those who are familiar with the comics and the ending makes no sense to anyone unfamiliar with Sinestro's villanous backstory because there was no indication Sinestro was going to turn rogue. It was just sequel baiting which has turned out fruitless. It's the disappointing lack of expectations and what the movie actually was which is worst about GL to me.

#4: Elektra

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I got nothing, this movie doesn't have any memorable one liners I could find.

Elektra sure was bad in Daredevil but she was worse in her solo movie. Even compared to the other bland and disappointing CBMs, Elektra goes one step further in how generic and uninteresting it ends up being. It deals with Elektra being brought back to life by Stick and trained in a secret martial art but gets kicked because of her dark feelings, becomes a contract killer, doesn't kill a father and daughter, has to protect them from the Hand yadda yadda. The plot's already been done before and Elektra doesn't know how to add anything new to this wheel of 'action hero protects someone they care for' storyline. It tries to do something with The Chaste and her martial arts training but the arc around is resolved without any pathos or nuanced development to it. The acting is useless with all of the actors, the action devolves into pointless slow motion too many times and the plot goes round in circles from flashbacks to present day ultimately being forgettable. I know this isn't as long as some of my other posts but being forgettable might actually be more of a sin than being memorably bad or rage inducing. I know parts of what made Elektra a bad movie but even know I can't remember everything, that counts as a failure on the movie's behalf.

#3: Superman IV: The Quest for Peace

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And there will be peace. There will be peace when the people of the world, want it so badly, that their governments will have no choice but to give it to them.

There's no shortage of criticism against the current movie version of Superman and rightly so in my book. Unfortunately there is one movie which is a reminder that there may be something even worse than a dour, unsure and ambiguous Superman. Superman IV is one of those apocalyptically bad cheesy films that try and dumb down a complex issue into a black and white answer. This movie tries to spoon feed some moral of the story lessons to you and fails in every way to create a story with a moral. Superman just up and disarming the world's nuclear missiles without any complaints is completely unrealistic even with a solar powered super strong flying alien requiring the suspension of disbelief for enjoyment. And it's only because Superman gets guilt tripped into doing it by some kid, what a legitimate reason for enforcing worldwide nuclear disarmament. Gene Hackman's once brilliant rendition of Lex Luthor is wasted next to the absurdity that is Nuclear Man. He's supposed to be the menace yet comes off flamboyant and dumber than a bag of hammers. Which leads to some of the worst effects I've seen in a comic book movie. Repeated uses of the same Superman flying shot, more faked fight scenes than a WWE match and Great Wall of China vision. Which is stupider than Superman throwing his S shield in Superman II. Such a ham fisted attempt at a greenpeace environmentally friendly message sabotaged an already terrible movie. Despite my strong feelings towards MOS and BvS, Superman IV is objectively the worst Superman movie to date.

#2: Catwoman

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Cats come when they feel like it. Not when they're told.

Where to even start with why I can't stand this one. Its butchery of Catwoman's character from the comics, replacing Selina Kyle with a new character altogether named Patience Phillips, the laughable excuse of a story, the random ass unexplained mystical source of Catwoman or Catwomen prior, the god awful special effects when Catwoman was swinging across the city, the horrifically bad acting, take your pick. I could fill a book with all the things Catwoman did wrong but I imagine other people have done so better than I can. Oh what about the stupid leather costume that isn't as well designed or useful as the other Catwoman costumes, the corny fashion designer villain, the played out "Patience and nice cop date whilst Catwoman causes a ruckus and nice cop chases her whilst figuring out who Catwoman is." Or the randomness of this female scholar who just happens to know everything about the Catwoman blessing after some cats lead Patience to her. Or the stupidity of Halle Berry acting like a cat and getting high off catnip. Ugh it's no wonder this film won a Golden Raspberry award. As far as bad comic book movies go, this film would be the runt of the litter were it not for one universally despised CBM.

#1: Batman and Robin

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This is why Superman works alone.

From bat credit cards to Arnold Schwarzenegger delivering painful ice puns to bat nipples, there's no shortage of reasons why I find Batman and Robin to be the worst CBM of them all. It tries to do the silliness of the 1960s Batman TV show but lacks the charm of the 60s show to pull it off. Consequently, what we get is a camp, silly and over the top display of how not to do a comic book movie. The special effects are ridiculous, the action is as corny as the 60s biff, pow and bam sound effects, the acting is atrocious from Clooney to Thurman and Schwarzenegger is ridiculously miscast as the supposed to be tragic Mr Freeze. The villains' plot is as Saturday morning cartoon corny as it gets and not in a charming good way either. More like oh god that was so dumb kind of way. There's no real story or character growth, Alfred getting Macguffin Syndrome is the most forced bit of tension in a CBM which happens to be resolved in a face palm inducing ending of the utmost convenience. I'd say all that and more gives good reason why Joel Schumacher is much maligned for creating this turd of a CBM. However, I believe the terrible quality of Batman and Robin and its hatred by the fans does give the film one underlooked strength. That it will be a memorable film for a long time to come because we love to hate, mock and criticise this masterpiece of a failure and in its failure, Batman and Robin will be infamous for that bad quality.

That's it for my blog, feel free to post your thoughts on it or your least favourite CBMs in the comments. Or possible BvS banter I predict. Thanks for reading.

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#1 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

More or less.

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#2 Posted by Vertigo- (17820 posts) - - Show Bio

good list

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#3 Posted by BeaconofStrength (12489 posts) - - Show Bio

The entirety of the Nolan trilogy should be #1, but it's a good list nonetheless.

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#4 Edited by GIliad_ (6654 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman & Robin is the worst... Like the actual worst - But I just can't resist flicking that button when I see it on XD

Nice list, a bit negative for my taste... is there an all time greatest?

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#5 Posted by Warlockmage (9294 posts) - - Show Bio

idk man to me Batman and Robin was so terrible that it was funny

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#6 Posted by HighAccuser (9696 posts) - - Show Bio

Inb4 triggered DCEU fanboys

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#7 Posted by deactivated-5c9535a734784 (2578 posts) - - Show Bio
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@lvenger, I can't believe you saw BVS, unless I'm reading something wrong. I would've thought it would be like torture for you. I think I spent two hours or more banging my head against the wall after seeing it. But a good list full of some absolute monstrosities. Batman and Robin still gives me traumatic flashbacks when I think of it.

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#8 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

The entirety of the Nolan trilogy should be #1, but it's a good list nonetheless.

Ouch savage, it's rare to see someone say all the Nolan films are that bad. I dislike Rises myself and find it abundant in plot holes. But you don't like even TDK? Interesting.

@giliad_ said:

Batman & Robin is the worst... Like the actual worst - But I just can't resist flicking that button when I see it on XD

Nice list, a bit negative for my taste... is there an all time greatest?

Yeah I've got a list hyperlinked to all my favourite comic book movies at the moment, I might do a Top 10 CBMs if I get enough interest for this.

idk man to me Batman and Robin was so terrible that it was funny

I do think that is a possible strength of the movie at least for its longevity in the fandom. But Bat credit card and Bat Nipples are sinful to the Bat God, praise be to Wejun Chew.

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#9 Posted by Cregan_Stark (5211 posts) - - Show Bio

Good list

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#10 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@soldierofel: Well I've seen clips of it on Youtube but I haven't watched it all the way through like with Fant4stic. It would be utter torture to me like you said. I expect buttersdamn to come and call me out on this so if he plays his cards right, I might get rustled enough to actually watch and review BvS myself. That would bring a storm on the Vine I've been trying to avoid. Thanks for approving as well mate!

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#11 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@never_give_up Blog is up, no Thor though I'm afraid. I get enough Thor fanboys up my butt as it is ;)

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#12 Posted by BlueHope (2681 posts) - - Show Bio

X-men apocalypse and amazing spiderman 2 are pretty bad too,even worse than some in this list like wolverine.

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#13 Posted by Jgames (8191 posts) - - Show Bio

X-men origin I actually found decent rewatching it, but yeah is not as good as I remember as the action scene are usually too quick and sometime lame. Also what they did to Deadpool was horrendous. That being said Hugh Jackman nail his role, and the action scene and story as a whole is interesting, not but intriguing enough. Is an okay mindless action movie.

Man of Steel yeah it had stupid moments, but I am sorry is not really a terrible movie except the same reason people hate Watchmen, IT DID NOT STICK TO THE SOURCE MATERIAK IT TOTALLY BUTCHER THE CHARACTER BLAH BLAH. Instead of accepting the movie for what it is. I am not going to argue why I think you are totally wrong because it's an opinion, so technically you can't be wrong and all I did is mock you like a ten year old, but the resson I won't argue is because honestly I don't care.

BvS UC was good for me, but yeah I can see why people would not like, and I understand 100% why people would hate the one in theater.

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#14 Posted by jumpstart55 (11025 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Besides 10 and 9..Which i really enjoyed and thought were good films..
  • I agree with the other 8, most which are just really awful.
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#15 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@jgames: A mindless action movie is a fair definition of Origins I suppose. There are mindless action films which aren't half bad, Origins just isn't one of them.

First mention of MOS for the blog, honestly yours is tame compared to what I'm expecting. You could try and explain why MOS isn't a terrible movie for you but I'm afraid I can't share that view. The IT BUTCHERZ TEH SOURCE MATERIAL AND RUINS TEH CHARACTER is a more valid and worthy concern than you're realising. Why should I accept a movie for what it is when it's supposed to be about one of the most iconic and morally good superhero. It's not a particularly good sci fi film if it wasn't about Superman IMO but the fact it is a Superman film just makes the cold and bleak sci fi nature of it worse. The discussion's already been hashed out and I've participated in it plenty so it's fine you're apathetic to the controversy.

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  • Besides 10 and 9..Which i really enjoyed and thought were good films..
  • I agree with the other 8, most which are just really awful.

Thanks, the other 8 are really quite bad aren't they?

@bluehope said:

X-men apocalypse and amazing spiderman 2 are pretty bad too,even worse than some in this list like wolverine.

They are pretty meh and have some bad qualities to them I'm not gonna lie. But for me they are still average films whereas with these none of them are average to me. Although I guess with ASM 2 I can totally see where you're coming from, that one was pretty bad.

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#16 Posted by TOATOAA (1195 posts) - - Show Bio

MoS shouldn't be here imo

but other than that great list

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#18 Posted by jumpstart55 (11025 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Yea they sucked really bad..But you should do your top ten favorite cbms..As i,m interested in what you would consider the best of the best after seeing what you consider the worst of the worst of the cbm genre.

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#19 Edited by BruceRogers (17450 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I don't necessarily agree with an example or two, but this blog was an excellent read!. I am curious to know your top 10 CBM movies though, so please tag me when you put that list up

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The only gif that comes to mind when watching BVS or MOS. Although If I actually did this, I'd come out a severe headache.
The only gif that comes to mind when watching BVS or MOS. Although If I actually did this, I'd come out a severe headache.

@lvenger:

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#22 Edited by zaied (7227 posts) - - Show Bio

An overall reasonable list, though I've come around to NOT calling Batman and Robin the worst comic book film. There were actually some passable things about it, namely the score and Bruce Wayne interactions. It's definitely a bad film, however it was meant to be bad and not a serious take on the character. Schumacher even admitted that it was made for selling toys, and family-friendly fun. Why WB went that route is anyone's guess, but luckily they fired back strong with Batman Begins.

I honestly think Fantastic Four is worse than Batman and Robin. It's way more bland, and wholly unenjoyable due to the serious tone, unlikable characters, and unconvincing presentation as a comic book property. Plus, unlike WB revitalizing Batman with Batman Begins, Fox had 8 years to learn from their shortcomings with the first two films and managed to make one that was worse.

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#23 Posted by Knightsofdarkness2 (8155 posts) - - Show Bio

Good list, but I would've put Man of Steel and Fan4stic a lot higher.

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#24 Posted by mindleech (742 posts) - - Show Bio

@toatoaa said:

MoS shouldn't be here imo

but other than that great list

this

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#25 Posted by Lawz (893 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman and Robin was the first super hero movie that made me realize super hero movies could suck. I was like freaking 12 when it came out. I vividly remember the credits rolling and looking around at my friends in shock because it was so bad.

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#26 Posted by Inquisitor_Lavellan (1974 posts) - - Show Bio

You already saw BvS?!? hAVE You reviewed it? I need to see this.

Oh great list btw

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#27 Posted by EmperorxHadesx420 (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

Only B&R & CW is bad.

The rest were above average or even great films.

Seems like someone is spoiled because the movies aren't perfect, or at least targeting children. Lol.

No hard feelings!! 😁

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#28 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@krleavenger: Same here, I love the FF but I can't stand Fan4stic, it's just depressingly bad to me in how it tries to be another Chronicle.

@soldierofel An appropriate gif for them, one of your best I'd say.

@zaied I can see where you're coming, Fan4stic is worse because Fox had time to learn from their mistakes yet chose not to do so and ended up with an even more rubbish movie. That's perhaps worse than making a purposefully bad sell out movie as you say.

Good list, but I would've put Man of Steel and Fan4stic a lot higher.

Admittedly I'd have liked to have given MOS a worse rap but there are some good things to it and worse movies than it. Fan4stic will hold a place of enmity to me for a long time I'm sure of it.

You already saw BvS?!? hAVE You reviewed it? I need to see this.

Oh great list btw

Nah not yet mate, bits and pieces. It will be a painful experience when I do decide to watch it all the way through. If I'd reviewed it, y'all would know about it. Thanks mate!

Only B&R & CW is bad.

The rest were above average or even great films.

Seems like someone is spoiled because the movies aren't perfect, or at least targeting children. Lol.

No hard feelings!! 😁

So you're really willing to call Quest for Peace above average? That's a pretty dangerous opinion lol.

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@lvenger: Yeah I know you love FF. I saw your list of favorite heroes and blog of one of favorite titles I think.

What's funny is that the movie is made only to keep the rights LOL. It looks that way to me but the funniest thing is that even few years before the movie was made people started to care less and less about the FF to the point that Marvel stopped writing about them and they more or less don't exist in All New MU.

Anyway every other movie you mentioned sucks so.

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#30 Posted by 2cool4fun (2418 posts) - - Show Bio

Come on Man of Steel was better than that wolverine movie.

Also I will never understand why people hate "What was I supposed to do? Just let them die? Maybe..."

He was never saying he wanted him to let them die, he's just a parent that doesn't know how to handle his son having super powers or being from another planet. It's sounds real, it feels real. Now maybe it's not the ever so optimistic Pa Kent from the comics, but it's still a line that works for a more realistic version.

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#32 Posted by destinyman75 (14697 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty much Arnold as freeze shivers and not because of the cold a lot of cheese

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#33 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@krleavenger: Which is another reason why I detest Fan4stic, it cut the FF out of the Marvel universe because Disney execs are too petty to let comics owned by another movie property be published. Let Fox keep the X-Men till they run the well dry, I want Marvel and Fox to negotiate a deal to get the FF back because they are not profitable or workable to Fox whatsoever. They will be at home at Marvel. And then they can come back in the comics and stop being the gods of the Marvel universe.

@2cool4fun Sorry but that line represents the crux of why I don't like this version of Superman or DC films. Admitting uncertainty is a total antithesis to what Superman is supposed to be. He's supposed to represent the guy who jumps into the water straight away to save someone drowning, the firefighter who rushes into the burning building without a second's thought for his safety or the police officer risking his life to save an innocent hostage. The Kents are supposed to inspire him to that selflessness and this cynical unsure version of The Kents is to me one of the worst things about MOS.

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#34 Posted by AkshSarpanch (3573 posts) - - Show Bio

You forgot:

Thor 2

Iron Man 3

Hulk

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#35 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@akshsarpanch: Thor 2 is bland and too corny in humour but it's not bad to me. I can't stand Iron Man 3's Mandarin bait and switch so it just missed out. By Hulk do you mean 2003 Hulk?

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#36 Posted by KrleAvenger (26078 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Indeed. I got so pissed off about that movie. I spent 5 hours writing the blog about what can be done to make an awesome FF movie. Those guys have potential to be the best super hero team ever and the greatest part is that they are family but in that movie they are more like parterns.

Tell me why that makes sense. Well it makes sense for you Fox because you suck.

Also I want to mention that I think that Origins Wolverine is way worse than MoS but I have to say, it is sad how Superman is a character I hated for years and he became one of my favorite characters ever and I got ao excited for MoS and Warner Bros. literaly punched me in the face so I see why it is above Origins Wolverine movie.

Also I watched Daredevil at the time it came out and never watched it again so more or less I don't remember the movie at all besides that one "I'm not the bad guy" Dare-Benaffleck idiotic smile.

Yeah sorry man but you see me complaining.

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#37 Posted by 2cool4fun (2418 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger:I agree, but it takes time for him to become that. It's normal to be uncertain as a child or a teenager. But I do agree that the Kents were a bit too Cynical, even if they were making them "realistic" but I still like that line :/

@akshsarpanch: Tbh even tho I hate Iron Man 3 more, I think Iron Man 2 is far worse.

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#38 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11674 posts) - - Show Bio
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#39 Posted by AkshSarpanch (3573 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: yeah, even Screen Junkies who are huge Marvel fanboys absolutely hated it.

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#40 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11674 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman 3? Steel? None of the first 2 Fantastic Four films?

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#41 Posted by deactivated-5c6600594117e (22316 posts) - - Show Bio

Well done. Haven't seen BVS or F4 yet but spot on with the others.

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#42 Posted by KrleAvenger (26078 posts) - - Show Bio

@akshsarpanch: I don't think those two are so bad. Hulk however...

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#43 Edited by Light1150 (597 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't put Man of Steel there, it's got bad structure and a bad characterization of superman, but only one entails for a bad movie, Iron Man 3 deserves to be 10 with Origins much higher, bad exection, lazy plot, lazy twist, obnoxious build up, the only thing saving that movie is RDJ.

Edit:bad characterization for Man of Stell too.

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#44 Edited by EmperorxHadesx420 (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Not really bro.

In my neighborhood and household, Steel,Spawn and Meteor Man are considered above average or even very good films. And I grew up looking at those films. Still have them on VHS. Oh, and did I forget to say Blankman?? Lol

So trust me lvenger, there are worst films out there than MoS or BvS.

So in other words, the films you listed are far from bad or worst. :) Lol

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#45 Posted by Batman3000 (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:
@beaconofstrength said:

The entirety of the Nolan trilogy should be #1, but it's a good list nonetheless.

Ouch savage, it's rare to see someone say all the Nolan films are that bad. I dislike Rises myself and find it abundant in plot holes. But you don't like even TDK? Interesting.

@giliad_ said:

Batman & Robin is the worst... Like the actual worst - But I just can't resist flicking that button when I see it on XD

Nice list, a bit negative for my taste... is there an all time greatest?

Yeah I've got a list hyperlinked to all my favourite comic book movies at the moment, I might do a Top 10 CBMs if I get enough interest for this.

@warlockmage said:

idk man to me Batman and Robin was so terrible that it was funny

I do think that is a possible strength of the movie at least for its longevity in the fandom. But Bat credit card and Bat Nipples are sinful to the Bat God, praise be to Wejun Chew.

Amen brother

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#46 Posted by algorhythm511 (2684 posts) - - Show Bio

I would add X-Men: Last Stand--first thing I said to my friend coming out of the theater was, "That had nothing to do with the Phoenix story.". If I didn't know anything about comics it could have been better.

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#47 Posted by sleeping_and_eating (341 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger

Looking back on it that line from Pa Kent rubs me the wrong way. I don't mind if Superman has a few doubts every now and then, but a morally gray Superman is one I don't want. Although I like MOS I understand why it gets the hate it does. I'm guessing your biggest issue with the film is how Superman was raised by the Kents and their teachings which you felt made him morally ambiguous?

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#48 Posted by Deathstroke52 (7006 posts) - - Show Bio

10, 9, and 7 shouldn't be here. It is your opinion though.

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#49 Edited by Petey_is_Spidey (11674 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathstroke52 said:

10, 9, and 7 shouldn't be here. It is your opinion though.

Yeah. X-Men Origins was sub-par, especially the second half (the first half was actually pretty good), but there are plenty of far, FAR worse films.

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#50 Edited by Deathstroke52 (7006 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathstroke52 said:

10, 9, and 7 shouldn't be here. It is your opinion though.

Yeah. X-Men Origins was bad, especially the second half (the first half was actually pretty good), but there are plenty of far, FAR worse films.

Oh whoops, I thought he put the 2013 Wolverine. I still agree though.