My Take On How Strong Naruto is Compared To Dragon Ball

Naruto solos Dragon Ball even if we ignore inconsistencies in Dragon Ball.

The only ones who match/beat him are

ToriBot because he's literally Toriyama self insert. He one shots Naruto Verse.

Mr Popo. Because Pecking Order. He one shots Naruto Verse.

And maybe Zalma? Zalama? However you pronounce his name, the creator of the Super Dragon Balls and the True Dragon God of DB. In a Tie at best if true.

@animefreak1: who’s your dealer?

Naruto is Namek saga at best due to lack of DC feats.

@army2442:

You don't get to use that argument in this debate.

Considering DB is mostly filled with hype.

Face it, DB uses more hype and scaling than actual feats.

There are few characters who have actual moon-planetary+ feats

And even then, most of them are outliers no matter how much you deny it.

beerus solos

@gabrielbelmont: No he doesn't.

@notcensored: just because kurama was out does not mean he only had access to 50%, I don’t even see how you would begin to quantify that.

2: vegeta having a charged attack less than moon level? Even though piccolo vaped the moon with no charge up at a power level of 322 and vegetas was 18,000? Come on man that makes zero sense and you know it.

3.the GWRE does not have moon level AP, not even continental AP if we are being honest here. It’s power comes from its size not its potency. It never overcame the GBE of the moon so again I don’t see how you would quantify its potency. It has no showing granting it a certain level of potency.

Also in regards to Momoshiki creation does not necessarily scale to attack based moves unless you can provide a valid method for said scaling, you have no idea how his dimensions were created and how that would translate to chakra and attack potency. This man got one shot by a rasengan... he does not have planetary durability.

4. While kaguyas feat of ETSB is on that level, it does not scale to anyone because it’s a hax based move that literally no one challenged. It is a TSB that keeps growing it does not have a level of potency because of the nature of the TSB that lets it atomize whatever it touches.

Attempting to scale this to kaguyas other jutsu is like attempting to scale kamui to any other jutsu in Kakashis arsenal. Just because Kakashi can kamui snipe someone as durable as kaguya does not mean he can hurt her with chidori because the fundamentals of these moves do not allow for scaling.

Naruto and sasuke don’t have to be any where near planetary to compete with kaguya because she hasn’t operated on the planetary level in regards to AP, DC, or durability.

@skrskr: No.

Now you're just being another Naruto Verse low baller.

Naruto Verse doesn't even need their God Tiers to be able to bust planets.

yes he does, just point his finger and speak hakai.

@animefreak1: except you can’t even show on panel continent busting, much less moon busting....and you definitely can’t provide any feats of actual planet busting lol

The best statement of actual destruction was from a serious Momoshiki who if naruto deflected his attack would have destroyed several lands (countries)

Meanwhile you have piccolo with a power level of 322 who can point his hand at the moon and make it disappear lol

@gabrielbelmont:

Hakai can't erase gods. There are multiple gods in Naruto. And they're not weak.

Beerus is Large Galaxy-Low Multi Galaxy Level at best by somewhat consistent scaling and feats.

If you try to bring up the whole Universe shaking argument, that was a huge outlier.

@skrskr:

There are plenty of feats that Planetary and above in Naruto.

Plus if I go by your logic, then Goku is barely a Planet Buster by actual feats. Considering the only time he has ever destroyed a planet on screen is when him and Beerus were shaking the universe and they accidentally destroyed a far off planet. But want to know the best part, it was a SHARED feat with Beerus meaning that SSJG Goku is barely planet level by your logic.

Kaguya is planet level-star level with the ETSB, which would be around pre SSJ namek saga goku levels.

Momoshiki, Jigen, Adult naruto and sasuke scale above this, they can potentially be at full power frieza and SSJ Goku levels.

@animefreak1: show the on panel planet busting feats then, or even better yet just show a moon buster or something..

That is not my logic, ki is a extremely simple power system where if you have a similar level of power you can replicate feats.

Narutos is not so simple, Kakashi can kamui snipe kaguya that does not mean he can hurt her with chidori and that definitely does not mean someone with a similar level of chakra can hurt her just because kamui can.

@skrskr:

Naruto cut down a planetary tree in one go.

Juubidara creates multiple meteors each of them dwarfing the planet in size and Naruto casually destroying them.

Kaguya in her weakened could destroy and re-create entire Universes.

Momoshiki creating a Dimension with Dozens of Stars, Celestial Bodies, and its own Red Shift Nebula which is blatant evidence that it's a Universe.

Momoshiki destroying a Solar System and seeing it as fodder.

Toneri casually split the moon in half.

And that's JUST SOME of them

@animefreak1: who is stronger, yog sothoth or narutoverse?

they haven't surpassed DBZ Frieza yet.. at his first form. No one in Naruto Verse can survive planetary attacks or even continental, they only cost of Frieza's fingertip which is more than enough.

go on, continue with your assumption.

@gabrielbelmont: Who's Yog Sothoth?

@alextheboss: Did you do the video? Its quite good and... sensible

@juicers: Bwahahahahahah!

Really, show me your proof of no one in Naruto surviving said attacks.

And Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta by hitting the core.

Base Form Namek Frieza is Country Level at best.

@rukelnikovftw: No, it's not.

@alextheboss: is that your Youtube channel?

go search, I won't be explaining things to any naruto fanboy.

Well I know he discards the moon feat that proves Goku has FTL combat speed pre SSJ with KKx20, but its pretty good nonetheless

@rukelnikovftw:

Did you do the video?

Yes

Its quite good and... sensible

@itouchedtheboat:

is that your Youtube channel?

Yes

@gabrielbelmont:

I always give the feats/evidence to back up my claims, so don't go acting as if I'm just spewing nonsense.

You're one to talk being a fanboy. I bet you're one of those DB fanboys who think even their Low Tiers are above most fiction.

@animefreak1:

Naruto cut down a planetary tree in one go.

That tree isn't planetary. If you think it is show me the evidence.

Juubidara creates multiple meteors each of them dwarfing the planet in size and Naruto casually destroying them.

Dwarfing the planet in size? Do you know what dwarfing means? All of them together covered a small country.

Kaguya in her weakened could destroy and re-create entire Universes.

Her dimensions were at best solar system in sized.

Momoshiki creating a Dimension with Dozens of Stars, Celestial Bodies, and its own Red Shift Nebula which is blatant evidence that it's a Universe.

Show me where it stated he created that universe.

Momoshiki destroying a Solar System and seeing it as fodder.

Star should be translated as planet, and he didn't even bust the planet, he destroyed the surface and killed everyone on it. He was literally on the planet he was talking about.

Toneri casually split the moon in half.

Which is around country-moon level, which is where most Naruto god tiers are around.

@animefreak1:

Base Frieza is barely continent level?

He is shown on screen to actually destroy a planet... what are you talking about?

And I hope you realize the core of a planet is the most dense part of it...

Not only that but in Broly the death ball detonated well before hitting the core.

@crater_maker: Frieza isn't planet level but Naruto is universe level, didn't you know?

@alextheboss:

I’m going to give this about 2 more posts. Dude accused DB of only being backed up by scaling yet...scaled Naruto...to solar system level...even being quite weaker than the “claimed” solar system level Kaguya...

@animefreak1: lmao cutting the tree is not a planetary feat

The cross section where he cut isn’t even the size of a small country lol

Did you really say those meteors dwarfed the planet? Even though you can see how small they are in relation to said planet?

Where is it stated that Momoshiki created that?

Also you don’t know what you are talking about, red light does not equal red shift radiation. Way to expose your limited knowledge on this topic.

It has already been proven and linked to you in other thread that the original translation was meant to be planet not star lol even in the sentence it says “and everyone that lived there” you think people live on stars? Also he is literally on the planet so how did he bust it?

Cutting the moon in half is no where near destroying the moon, again you have failed to provide one moon busting feat or anything even close.

@alextheboss: Good video. I also like how you didn't label Piccolo's moon busting feat as an outlier unlike some other people.

Also lol at AnimeFreak1's bait. Country level Freiza...

Naruto and Goku are around bullet lvl.

@alextheboss: Dont even debate him dude he has stated that kaguya is 4D and possibly 5D (which is absolute nonsense). He even stated that semi perfect cell is multi-island level despite being stronger than a planet buster. Hes the biggest naruto wanker on this site.

Bruh, the trailer video for your youtube channel

I cant. Whats worse is someone held the camera without laughing the whole time.

@alextheboss said:

@rukelnikovftw:

Did you do the video?

Yes

Its quite good and... sensible

@itouchedtheboat:

is that your Youtube channel?

Yes

A bit lol, gj man

naruto is at best saiyan saga level.

anything stronger than saiyan saga vegeta stomps.

No one in Naruto is moon level, neither planetary.

Lol at someone claiming the shinju tree was planetary when you can literally see it in it's entirety and it's not even continent size.

Planetary tree? What?

DB Verse is not Planet level until Frieza appears in the Namek Saga, as he's the first True Planet Buster in the Series.

Stronger than Ichigo is the only acceptable answer.

What the fuck am I reading in this thread?

Country level Frieza and planetary tree.