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I suggest you check out my marvel tier list blog which contains a lot of marvel characters and a few DC characters. Now I am doing a movie-verse tier list which includes MCU, DCEU, FOXverse

Remember that this list is going to change continuously.

From strongest to weakest:

High Cosmic tier:

  • IG Thanos
  • MCU Dormammu

Mid cosmic tier:

  • MCU Celestial (with gem)
  • MCU Thor (post Infinity War)
  • MCU Thanos (power gem)
  • FOX Silver Surfer
  • FOX Galactus
  • MCU Surtur (Full power)
  • MCU Thanos

Low cosmic tier:

  • MCU Hela (in Asgard)
  • FOX Phoenix (composite)
  • MCU Ronan (with orb)
  • MCU Strange with gem
  • FOX Apocalypse
  • MCU Ultron (final form)

High-high tier:

  • FOX Magneto
  • MCU Malekith (aether)
  • FOX Doom-surfer
  • DCEU Superman
  • MCU Iron Man (Nanotech Armor)
  • MCU Kurse
  • MCU Thor (pre Infinity War)
  • MCU Hulk
  • MCU Fenris
  • DCEU Zod
  • FOX Super skrull Johnny
  • DCEU Faora
  • DCEU Nam-ek
  • MCU Destroyer
  • MCU Cull Obsidian
  • MCU Hulkbuster
  • FOX Xavier
  • DCEU Steppenwolf
  • DCEU Ares

Low-high tier:

  • DCEU Wonder Woman
  • MCU Vision (not counting Infinity War feats)
  • MCU Iron man (Supercharged)
  • MCU Wanda
  • MCU Abomination
  • MCU Loki
  • MCU Giant man

High mid tier:

  • MCU Iron man
  • MCU War machine
  • MCU Valkyrie
  • DCEU Cyborg*
  • FOX Quicksilver
  • MCU Groot
  • FOX storm
  • FOX thing
  • FOX colossus
  • MCU Corvus Glave
  • MCU Korg*
  • FOX Cyclops
  • DCEU Aquaman*
  • MCU Drax
  • DCEU El Diablo
  • MCU Yellow Jacket
  • MCU Proxima Midnight

Mid tier:

  • MCU Spidey
  • MCU Ant man
  • MCU Vulture
  • MCU Whiplash
  • MCU Quicksilver
  • DCEU Flash
  • MCU Black Panther / Golden Jaguar Killmonger
  • MCU Iron Monger

Super-soldier tier:

  • FOX Beast
  • MCU Luke cage
  • MCU Cap
  • MCU Killmonger (herb powered)
  • MCU T'Challa (Herb powered)
  • MCU Bucky
  • FOX Wolverine
  • FOX X-23 Laura
  • FOX Deadpool
  • FOX Ajax
  • DCEU Ludendorf
  • DCEU Killer croc*
  • MCU Falcon with gear
  • MCU Klaue (arm-blaster)
  • MCU Shocker

High street tier:

  • MCU Killmonger (without powers)
  • Nolan Bane
  • DCEU Batman
  • Nolan Batman
  • Depowered MCU T'challa
  • MCU M'Baku
  • Movie kingpin
  • MCU Thor (Unworthy)
  • MCU Black WIdow

Mid street tier:

  • Nolan Ras al ghul
  • MCU Rumlov (crossbones without armor)
  • MCU Hawkeye
  • DCEU Katanna
  • Nolan Catwoman

Low street tier:

  • Nolan Joker
  • DCEU Joker
  • DCEU Harley

* Need more feats to justify their positioning in the list.

Current update = Post infinity War

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#2  Edited By g2_

@apex_pretador: You forgot the Living Tribunal.

Also...

High street tier:

  • Nolan Bane
  • DCEU Batman
  • Nolan Batman
  • Movie kingpin
  • MCU Thor
  • MCU Black WIdow

WTF?

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This is cool. Gonna have a better look at it later.

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Umm..what is Ultron doing in Cosmic tier?

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@g2_: He must mean depowered Thor.

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@g2_: Unworthy thor / depowered Thor

@rbt said:

Umm..what is Ultron doing in Cosmic tier?

Ultron is a bigger threat than any of the high tiers, and poses threat on planetary level easily. He is a tier above guys like superman and thor

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@g2_:High-high Tier.

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@rbt said:

Umm..what is Ultron doing in Cosmic tier?

Ultron is a bigger threat than any of the high tiers, and poses threat on planetary level easily. He is a tier above guys like superman and thor

The only reason he was a planetary threat because he was smart enough to create a machine that allowed him to. Going by that logic, DCEU Enchantress should be up there as well.

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@rbt: No, it was because of internet. The only reason planet did not end was because of JARVIS.

Also, I don't care about enchantress and haven't watched SS so I can't place her.

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#12  Edited By RBT

@rbt: No, it was because of internet. The only reason planet did not end was because of JARVIS.

Fair enough. Ultron could have been a huge threat if he used his powers sensibly. Its just physically, he wasn't much.

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@rbt said:
@apex_pretador said:

@rbt: No, it was because of internet. The only reason planet did not end was because of JARVIS.

Fair enough. Ultron could have been a huge threat if he used his powers sensibly. Its just physically, he wasn't much.

Agreed, and neither was Apocalypse any much physically, seeing his best physical feats can be easily replicated by Luke Cage.

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I disagree with a lot of this

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I disagree with a lot of this

feel free to elaborate

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@rbt said:
@apex_pretador said:

@rbt: No, it was because of internet. The only reason planet did not end was because of JARVIS.

Fair enough. Ultron could have been a huge threat if he used his powers sensibly. Its just physically, he wasn't much.

Agreed, and neither was Apocalypse any much physically, seeing his best physical feats can be easily replicated by Luke Cage.

Well, Apoc had a very good regen and pretty powerful shield. Its not same as physicals, but he was holding off whole X Men at once.

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#18  Edited By buildhare
@buildhare said:

I disagree with a lot of this

feel free to elaborate

My main issues;

Mid cosmic tier:

  • MCU Celestial (with gem)
  • FOX Galactus
  • MCU Thanos*
  • MCU Odin*
  • FOX Silver Surfer

Surfer should be above everyone here bar Galactus (and even then, he did kill him).

Low cosmic tier:

  • FOX Phoenix (composite)
  • MCU Ronan (with orb)
  • FOX Apocalypse
  • MCU Ultron (final form)

Ultron shouldn't be here, Ronan should be in the tier above.

High-high tier:

  • DCEU Doomsday
  • MCU Malekith (aether)
  • MCU Kurse
  • FOX Doom-surfer
  • DCEU Superman
  • MCU Thor
  • MCU Hulk
  • DCEU Zod
  • FOX Super skrull
  • DCEU Nam-ek
  • MCU Destroyer
  • FOX Magneto
  • MCU Hulkbuster
  • DCEU Faora

Magneto should be at the very tippy top of this tier, or at the bottom of the one above. Everyone else here is city level (at best, and stretching it) and he's planetary.

Low-high tier:

  • DCEU Wonder Woman*
  • MCU Loki
  • MCU Vision
  • MCU Iron man (Supercharged)
  • MCU Strange with gem
  • MCU Abomination
  • MCU Giant man
  • FOX Xavier
  • MCU Wanda

Dr Strange? Xavier? What? One has planetary TP post apoc and the other has time manipulation and dimensional BFR, they should be in low cosmic with Magneto.

High mid tier:

  • MCU Iron man
  • MCU War machine
  • MCU Groot
  • DCEU El Diablo
  • FOX Quicksilver
  • FOX Cyclops
  • FOX storm
  • FOX thing
  • FOX colossus

Diablo, Groot, Cyclops, Storm and Colossus should all be moved down, QS should be moved up.

Mid tier:

  • MCU Yellow Jacket
  • MCU Spidey
  • MCU Whiplash
  • MCU Quicksilver
  • MCU Iron Monger
  • MCU Drax*

Drax shouldn't be here.

Super-soldier tier:

  • FOX Beast
  • MCU Luke cage
  • MCU Black panther
  • MCU Cap
  • MCU Bucky
  • FOX Wolverine
  • FOX Deadpool
  • FOX Ajax
  • DCEU Killer croc*
  • MCU Falcon with gear

Ordering is wrong but otherwise this tier is fine.

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@buildhare:

Surfer should be above everyone here bar Galactus (and even then, he did kill him).

You have a valid point.

Ultron shouldn't be here,

He should be. See my discussion with RBT

Ronan should be in the tier above.

Why? Because of gem? Perhaps but I don't think he has shown power on that level.

Magneto should be at the very tippy top of this tier, or at the bottom of the one above. Everyone else here is city level (at best, and stretching it) and he's planetary.

I should refine my order in every tier , wait a few minutes.

Drax shouldn't be here.

I think he is above SS tier, so I put him at the bottom of mid tier.

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@apex_pretador said:
@buildhare said:

I disagree with a lot of this

feel free to elaborate

My main issues;

Mid cosmic tier:

  • MCU Celestial (with gem)
  • FOX Galactus
  • MCU Thanos*
  • MCU Odin*
  • FOX Silver Surfer

Surfer should be above everyone here bar Galactus (and even then, he did kill him).

Low cosmic tier:

  • FOX Phoenix (composite)
  • MCU Ronan (with orb)
  • FOX Apocalypse
  • MCU Ultron (final form)

Ultron shouldn't be here, Ronan should be in the tier above.

High-high tier:

  • DCEU Doomsday
  • MCU Malekith (aether)
  • MCU Kurse
  • FOX Doom-surfer
  • DCEU Superman
  • MCU Thor
  • MCU Hulk
  • DCEU Zod
  • FOX Super skrull
  • DCEU Nam-ek
  • MCU Destroyer
  • FOX Magneto
  • MCU Hulkbuster
  • DCEU Faora

Magneto should be at the very tippy top of this tier, or at the bottom of the one above. Everyone else here is city level (at best, and stretching it) and he's planetary.

Low-high tier:

  • DCEU Wonder Woman*
  • MCU Loki
  • MCU Vision
  • MCU Iron man (Supercharged)
  • MCU Strange with gem
  • MCU Abomination
  • MCU Giant man
  • FOX Xavier
  • MCU Wanda

Dr Strange? Xavier? What? One has planetary TP post apoc and the other has time manipulation and dimensional BFR, they should be in low cosmic with Magneto.

High mid tier:

  • MCU Iron man
  • MCU War machine
  • MCU Groot
  • DCEU El Diablo
  • FOX Quicksilver
  • FOX Cyclops
  • FOX storm
  • FOX thing
  • FOX colossus

Diablo, Groot, Cyclops, Storm and Colossus should all be moved down, QS should be moved up.

Mid tier:

  • MCU Yellow Jacket
  • MCU Spidey
  • MCU Whiplash
  • MCU Quicksilver
  • MCU Iron Monger
  • MCU Drax*

Drax shouldn't be here.

Super-soldier tier:

  • FOX Beast
  • MCU Luke cage
  • MCU Black panther
  • MCU Cap
  • MCU Bucky
  • FOX Wolverine
  • FOX Deadpool
  • FOX Ajax
  • DCEU Killer croc*
  • MCU Falcon with gear

Ordering is wrong but otherwise this tier is fine.

Exactly this !

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@apex_pretador:

He should be. See my discussion with RBT

Being planetary with the internet isn't the same as being able to manipulate the planet itself. It's not at all useful in a combat setting and I can't see how it's useful outside of sending emails.

Why? Because of gem? Perhaps but I don't think he has shown power on that level.

Solely because of the gem. It destroys planets. He was literally about to destroy Xandar, Ronan's power level doesn't come into it.

I think he is above SS tier, so I put him at the bottom of mid tier.

I don't think he's done anything to justify it. Wolverine would slaughter him, people like Beast are stronger then him, everyone is more skilled. All he has is a durability showing.

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@apex_pretador:

He should be. See my discussion with RBT

Being planetary with the internet isn't the same as being able to manipulate the planet itself. It's not at all useful in a combat setting and I can't see how it's useful outside of sending emails.

He would have nuked the earth if not for Jarvis stopping him from accessing them.

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I think Dormammu being #1 is debatable especially in comparison to a Celestial with the gem, especially if your referring to Eson from Collectors exhibition with the Power Gem. Feat-wise, there is not much evidence to say that the Celestials (especially with gem) are lesser than Dormammu. The rest of your list has people that could move around here and there but is largely pretty good but these top guys have very little feats to substantiate a hierarchy amongst one another at this point.

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Would probably get on this at some point.

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@apex_pretador: ill take a better look later, but

I think ultron should be lower, kurse should be above him in power, and id say magneto could fit the low cosmic level because he had similar power to pheonix, affecting the entire planet. Only reason it seems pheonix is above him is because she got through apoc shield and he didnt

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If you needed more feats to justify Odin and Thanos' position, why not just leave them off the list entirely? Odin barely has any and Thanos has none.

I think buildhare covered pretty much any other problem I had.

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As much as i love thanos and galactus what have they done in cinematic universe that puts them above everyone else? All thanos did was sit in a chair and all galactus has done is send silver surfer to earth appear once then leaves

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As much as i love thanos and galactus what have they done in cinematic universe that puts them above everyone else?

Already pointed out that Thanos and Odin need more feats to show their power. I'm just basing it on hype and statements so far.

All thanos did was sit in a chair and all galactus has done is send silver surfer to earth appear once then leaves

Galactus destroyed saturn and gave surfer his powers.

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If you needed more feats to justify Odin and Thanos' position, why not just leave them off the list entirely? Odin barely has any and Thanos has none.

I think buildhare covered pretty much any other problem I had.

Statements and hype.

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@theanalyser said:

As much as i love thanos and galactus what have they done in cinematic universe that puts them above everyone else?

Already pointed out that Thanos and Odin need more feats to show their power. I'm just basing it on hype and statements so far.

All thanos did was sit in a chair and all galactus has done is send silver surfer to earth appear once then leaves

Galactus destroyed saturn and gave surfer his powers.

But if ronan wasn't distracted and planet busted xandar and survived, wouldn't he be above galactus in terms of feats?

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Seems pretty close to me

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FOX Quicksilver should be higher.

Also, there hasn´t been a live action Super-Skrull.

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Awesome list.

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I think the order for the most part is good. Sure a few choices are debatable but I can definitely understand why you made them.

Nice list!

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@apex_pretador: is the list based more on feats or statements? I don't believe I see them on the list but enchantress and her brother are pretty high up there in the dceu excluding some pis and mental gymnastics.

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@noone1996: @doofasa: Thanks

@apex_pretador: is the list based more on feats or statements? I don't believe I see them on the list but enchantress and her brother are pretty high up there in the dceu excluding some pis and mental gymnastics.

Both.

Enchantress and her brother aren't here because I did not watch SS

FOX Quicksilver should be higher.

Also, there hasn´t been a live action Super-Skrull.

Why should FOX Quicksilver be higher than Iron Man?

Also, did you watch F4-rise of surfer?

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#37  Edited By Adriusus

@apex_pretador: Could you calculate the "Iron Man pushing a turbine in helicarrier" thing? Like how many tons of TNT? Thanks hopefully.

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@noone1996: @doofasa: Thanks

@heatforce said:

@apex_pretador: is the list based more on feats or statements? I don't believe I see them on the list but enchantress and her brother are pretty high up there in the dceu excluding some pis and mental gymnastics.

Both.

Enchantress and her brother aren't here because I did not watch SS

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FOX Quicksilver should be higher.

Also, there hasn´t been a live action Super-Skrull.

Why should FOX Quicksilver be higher than Iron Man?

Also, did you watch F4-rise of surfer?

I agree with Fox quicksilver being higher than Iron man. This helicarrier calc puts iron man's normal suits at around multi-city block level (170 tons of tnt) while this calc has Fox Quicksilver at town lvl in the 8 kiloton range based on the exploding mansion feat. In fact, he should just switch spots with Giant-Man. Yeah Giant-Man tossed war machine around but nothing to really hurt him so I don't see why Giant-Man should be above them. Also, when was this supercharged iron man, I forgot that?

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Great job again(sigh,no one is interested in my Szeth respect thread)

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@buildhare said:

@apex_pretador:

He should be. See my discussion with RBT

Being planetary with the internet isn't the same as being able to manipulate the planet itself. It's not at all useful in a combat setting and I can't see how it's useful outside of sending emails.

He would have nuked the earth if not for Jarvis stopping him from accessing them.

Based on this argument, you should put Fox Xavier at Ultron's same tier, since he did launch every nuclear bomb in the world, and could have probably life-wiped if desired.

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@adriusus said:

@apex_pretador: Could you calculate the "Iron Man pushing a turbine in helicarrier" thing? Like how many tons of TNT? Thanks hopefully.

Well, that'd be a hectic job. However, what I can tell you is that the turbine he was pushing was atleast 250 tonnes (assuming steel).

Also, when was this supercharged iron man, I forgot that?

Thor's lightning charged him up to 400%

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#43  Edited By GXrevs06

LMAO at Kurse being higher than DCEU Superman. Also, Odin is basically featless

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FOX Quicksilver should be higher.

Also, there hasn´t been a live action Super-Skrull.

He's probably talking about Human Torch in the end of F4 2.

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@gxrevs06 said:

LMAO at Kurse being higher than DCEU Superman. Also, Odin is basically featless

I agree about Kurse but @apex_pretador is using statements too and by statements MCU Odin is pretty powerful.

In fact, Doomsday should occupy Kurse's current position and Kurse should be below Superman and above Thor. Also, iirc Malekith (aether) should be bumped up to be in the low cosmic tier as it was stated the "Aether would convert all matter in the Universe into Dark Matter." True it's pretty vague but going by statements the Aether is the most powerful infinity stone witnessed Thus far (makes sense due to it being the reality stone), however, the orb (power stone) has the most impressive feat. Either way, if Ultron is considered a low cosmic threat (why?) then I don't see why Malekith w/ aether isn't too.

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#47  Edited By APEX_pretador

@thor_parker82 said:

FOX Quicksilver should be higher.

Also, there hasn´t been a live action Super-Skrull.

He's probably talking about Human Torch in the end of F4 2.

Yeah right. Super Johny

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Awesome list. Wouldn't change anything.