Most overrated comic book film?

@i3io_hazard said:

The Avengers

As much as I love the movie The Dark Knight was kind've overrated.

I mean Joker, Two Face, and Gordon are spot on as always but Bale as Batman is so...eh

Agreed.

Very good point.

Lol damn.

How so?

Ironic, I actually found Batman Begins the most character developing film for Bruce Wayne, and the true "Batman" film of the Dark Knight trilogy.

@wolverine08: Weird, it didn't feel anything like a Batman movie to me. I agree it gave Bruce Wayne the most development but I wasn't a huge fan of Bale's performance (he got slightly better later on). He was just lacking intensity IMO.

@farkam: I remember the fight scenes being really hard to follow. I thought Scarecrow was lame as a villain and Ra's abrely had any screen time. Bale wasn't a convincing Batman imo (he only got slightly better as the trilogy went on). Dialogue was awkward and unnatural. Seemed to be trying too hard to be "mature". Most of all, it didn't feel anything like a Batman movie to me.

I can't speak for everyone else, but the Avengers being a fun movie was never a failing. I absolutely love fun movies - my problem was (and please no one take this over-sensitively) that the movie was, frankly, shallow. After the first time I saw it, I realized I had no idea what the plot was. In general, that is never a good sigh. Everything is rushed together. Loki it a joke (in a morbid way) and the Chitauri are ineffective besides shooting cars and attacking four street blocks or so, in spite of having a planet invading army. There's never any real sense of urgency - prime example being the mechanical situation during the whole attack on the Helicarrier. There's more I could say, but they're all along the same general point.

Again, this does not mean the movie was bad! It was fun, vibrant and engaging. An excellent popcorn flick. And not to be forgotten, it was an ensemble superhero team movie. But that said, it was still overrated for what it was. Honest Trailers said it well, the excitement blinds fans to a lot of legit criticism.

Avengers. Definitely Avengers.

@farkam: Thanks.

the Avengers. its a fun film but i think its more of a family film. not like Mos or batman or any DC film.

I agree, seriously after watching The Avengers again I'm pretty sure an normal citizen could defeat that alien army. Faora was particularly an invasion herself.

I think that a lot of it is Marvel vs DC. The irony in my eyes was that if Avengers was dark and brooding and Man of Steel was "fun", most of the people who criticized Avengers for being "fun" would have ended up praising Man of Steel for being "fun".

Obviously not, if you bothered to read my previous post it was one of many things, I just don't have to rewatch the movie and collect my thoughts right now.

Gotta go with this.

I love Dark Knight, so dont take this the wrong way, but it is easily the most "overrated" CBM. And Heath Ledger is painfully overrated.

Avengers, invasion at the end is on the same road area too much for me, there's a whole city for christ sake!

The Dark Knight or Man of Steel. Dark Knight was good, but Man of Steel was just alright and is treated like it's the best movie ever.

7.4 rating too much?

Avengers.

I'm one of the cats that think a villain is suppose to carry a film. They're suppose to make the heroes work for it. Loki did none of that.

@slimj87d: That was one hilarious clip.

I completely applaud this.

Nolan Batman films

I can't really think of movies that I think are overrated to be honest. Can we talk about underrated films though? Like DareDevil: Director's Cut, Punisher: War Zone and the two Fantastic Four movies!

Avengers, it's only impressive in the sense that it was ever made. The movie, on it's own merits? Nothing beyond any other summer blockbuster.

This dog right here is about to eat you!

I agree with this assessment, however, I dont think it is overrated, because everyone I know basically agrees. I havent really seen it called a masterpiece by any means.

Most overrated? hmmmm...The Avengers comes to mind...

The Dark Knight was a great movie and deserves the respect it received. People think that just because Ledger did an exceptional job that he was the only great aspect of the film.

Which is utterly wrong.

The cast as a whole was astounding, I mean Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, and even Bale did a better job with their own respective characters than has ever been done.

The plot was insanely gripping and quite surprising.

The action was completely badass.

In all honesty the only superhero movie that can really compete plot-wise is Watchmen, and that wasn't even an original story.

After rewatching them, I can definitely agree with this. They weren't nearly as bad as I thought they were.

YES IT WAS! LOL.

Finally someone agrees with me haha

Loki was nothing, man.

Loki as a villain

• We've had this guy as a villain for the Thor film already.
• He wasn't cunning at all.
• In an attempt to humiliate Captain America, Steve actually humiliated Loki.
• Humans > Gods
• Black Widow deduced his angle to get to Hulk, yet Hawkeye did 90% of Loki's work.
• He was being bossed around by some random Chitauri General.
• None of his plans for world domination came remotely close.

Lets look at a bunch of villains that makes Loki's job look like nothing: Joker, Bane, Zod, supporting villains such as Faora + Nam-Ek, Abomination, Red Skull, Dr Doom, Lizard, Sebastian Shaw, Victor Creed from Origins. The list goes on really.

You're one of my favorites on the Vine 08, but I guess we look for different things in our comic-book based movies. Nothing is wrong with fun, but the OP is "Which comic movie is over-rated" not "which comic movie is bad." I saw The Avengers about week-ten days after it's release, by then, I'd heard/read all the "Best CBM ever" and "5-stars" and so on. The expectations may have been a problem for me. When a film is that hyped, I want fun, but I want more than that. Let's take a Marvel movie I loved, the first Iron Man. That movie was "fun" and showed us "Tony Snark" :) and RDJ made the role his own. But it was more than fun. It had depth, it had a hero overcoming odds. It had the main character questioning the way he's lived his whole life and under-going a transformation. It had a villain that sold our hero out. It added a personal touch with Iron Man saving the village of the man who save his life in the cave. It was a pretty well-written and conceived plot line, that wound up in satisfying conclusion. And though I knew Stark would win in the end, when Obidiah had the reactor, and Tony didn't, I had no idea how he was gonna win. And the conclusion was, to me, much more satisfying than having Hulk toss Loki around. (Though I admit, that was fun.) Now, I don't think MOS was all that dark and brooding. In fact, I felt good at the end, because a real threat had been defeated. Kind of like I'm sure Seahawk fans had more fun/appreciated watching their team beat the 49ers and the Broncos, more than they did watching their team beat the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Also very good points.

Not Avengers.

I love how one person called Avengers fun and thus anyone elese who says it's overrated automatically has the same opinion. Sigh

@manwhohaseverything:

Aw, thanks for the compliment man. You're one of my favorites on here too :) First off, I completely get what you mean about the "masterpiece" or five star comments around Avengers when it first came out. It did get a lot of hype, and I can understand what you mean by it being overrated in that sense. I don't think Avengers is a five star or masterpiece type film. I bet if you ask Joss Whendon or Marvel Studios they wouldn't tell you it's a masterpiece either. Most of that hype has worn off by now anyways. But it was a pretty good movie, and it succeeded it in its mission. You have to give it credit for that. I also think it managed to have faithful interpretations of its characters all around, and managed to thror in some decent character development with characters like Captain America being able to go from being unsure of himself and the future he had been thrust into to being able to completely take over his role as leader. Secondly, tone doesn't make film. CBMs like Hulk 2003, Daredevil, the Punisher films, etc. all boasted dark tones, and the general consensus was that they were poorly made films. You can find varying tones among the best CBMs from lighthearted like Iron Man to dark like the Dark Knight. Even excluding the CBM genre, some of the best films on general had varying tones. Some have been extremely serious like the Godfather whereas others like Pulp Fiction were laced with humor all around. Now, I can actually understand how a film being extremely lacking in taking itself seriously can bring about failure. I think some CBMs this year like Iron Man 3 and Thor: The Dark World went that route and brought on mediocrity unto themselves as a result, but I do think that they're CBMs like Avengers and Iron Man 1 for example that manage to strike that balance and can be done again. I can also at the end of the day understand a preference for certain tones. Some people will just prefer a darker tone, while some may prefer for their films to not take themselves too seriously, and I fully get that, but my biggest gripe is that we can't just throw a film into the bad apple category just on the basis of tone alone. There are so many aspects that go into making a film great that limiting it solely to tone is limiting our chances of enjoying great CBMs in general.

Avengers was an average movie made great in people's eyes literally only because of build up.

Every Marvel movie, with the exception of Iron Man 1, the only Marvel film that actually had a soul.

Also, Nolan Batman. Or as they are individually known:

Batman Begins: We have to be super serious and boring in order to differentiate us between Batman and Robin

The Dark Knight: Proof that even the most painfully average film will receive untold praise if it includes Batman

The Dark Knight Rises: Batman, but now with fascist undertones.

The Dark Knight Rises. Wasn't even the best Batman film, let alone the best CBM ever. Cap 2 was much better.

Man of steel....did all of the cast study trees or something? They were all so wooden and bland. Also why no humour? Even the Batman movies gave a chuckle every now and again. I seriously can't think of a single (intentionally) funny moment in MOS. Some would call it gritty and realistic, I call it dull and boring. Only it's fairly decent fight scenes saved for me.

I was expecting people to say Avengers, though I can't for the life of me understand why. The fact it was even made elevates to legendary status. Even without that, it was a damn good flick on it's own merits.

Wanted and Sky High, simply for the fact they are some of the worst movies I've ever seen and still garnered good reviews.

Avengers and MoS.

The Dark Knight. The film is overrated simply because Ledger is overrated.

He got an Oscar because he died, not because he was an awesome Joker. Nicholson > Ledger all day long.

Batman Begins. No contest.
Rises is right behind it.

The Dark Knight I feel actually deserves it's hype. I didn't like what Nolan did with Batman and the Joker was just a glorified thug but Ledger took that script and made him so intense. The only one of the three that gave me chills and had me on the edge of my seat.

Indeed it was.

God comic book fans bitch about movies so much.

All I can say is I'm extremely thankful studios don't listen to any of us, because this thread is just silly. Some of the reasons people have brought up are absolutely ridiculous.

Might as well not make any CBM's, given that nearly every single one has been mentioned. They're all overrated and garbage!

Can't believe I'm now going to defend The Avengers. (First time for everything.) Not sure any film can be considered "great by the public" on build-up. MOS had just as much "build-up" as Avengers, but the general consensus is Avengers was much better. (Which I hate admitting, as I like MOS so much more, but my opinion is not general consensus.) In fact, build-up can backfire. As I noted before, one of my problems with The Avengers, having seen it something like 7-10 days after it's release (I think it was 9 days, but am not sure.) was all the hype and build-up raised my expectations to maybe unrealistic heights.

Spider-man 2

Avengers.The movie wasn't bad,it was good, but it wasn't as good as every fanboy of it says.The movie is fun to watch for the first time but after the first time you start noticing it's flaws and it actually becomes a pretty boring movie to watch for a second time.

Avengers easily.

Spot on.

Avengers. It was my wake up call and showed me that Marvel does not produce good villains.