MOS World Engine feat: Just how strong does this make DCEU Superman?

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Poll: MOS World Engine feat: Just how strong does this make DCEU Superman? (25 votes)

less than 100 tonnes 8%
100-400 tonnes 8%
400-1,000 tonnes 4%
1,000-5,000 tonnes 4%
10,000+ tonnes 12%
50,000+ tonnes 4%
100,000+ tonnes 4%
~1,000,000 tonnes 12%
"Multi-million" tonnes 12%
Even more than the above 32%

Could this be considered his best on-screen strength feat?

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Pretty much his best feat. Either it's an outlier, or he's ridiculously strong and all his opponents scale from him.

The World Engine itself collapsed a mountain in the background when it landed, and it was unscathed. That means that its own material survived the very impact that destroyed a mountain and created shockwaves of dirt and stone for miles. That's easily a city-mountain level feat.

And not only did Superman destroy the World Engine, but he did it while weakened and under a gravity beam that was going to single-handedly terraform Earth. That makes his tectonic plate feat seem feasible, honestly.

And if you interpret the feats a certain way (though they may not all be agreed upon as legitimate interpretations) then it is possible for the feat to be consistent. After all, we've never really seen the limits of Superman's striking power.

But is it an outlier? Tough to say. His mountain top feat backs up that his flight speed is enough to do serious damage even when it's just leaps, but it doesn't put him anywhere near the World Engine feat. Making Doomsday adapt, however, definitely does mean something. When he came back from space, Clark blitzed Doomsday into a power plant, which made a huge explosion and caused Doomsday to adapt. That's really important because the movie makes it clear that Doomsday can only adapt to increasing amounts of energy. Sure, the first time he encounters bullets and rockets, he adapts, but after that, he needs to absorb more energy to adapt. Superman made him adapt after he tanked a nuke and adapted from it. That means that his blitz provided enough force and energy to overcome the energy threshold caused by the nuke. Ergo, Superman's blitzes are at least above the nuke that hit him in space. Even his durability, which is clearly above nuke level (he was KOed by the nuke's force, sure, but the only thing that actually brought him to near-death levels was the radiation, since his body was completely intact, from his eyelashes to his fingernails; the zombie-like state that he was is pretty much confirmed that the radiation affected him, imo) is consistent with roughly nuke-levels of power. Considering how his travel speed can reach Mach 2,000 and how he's nuke level in durability, he could probably pull off the World Engine feat on his best day.

OT: even more than multi-millions of tons, probably.

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#2  Edited By TheOmniDoctor

Interesting. Many people believe that Supes can only lift 7,500 tonnes.

Another question is if the World Engine feat is either overrated or underrated.

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#3 The_Hajduk  Online

I don’t see what makes busting the world engine that different from a leviathan or an outrider ship. And the Sanctuary that Captain Marvel busted should easily surpass it.

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#4  Edited By Ready_4_Madness

@the_hajduk: he was weakened when he destroyed the ship

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It's a willpower feat and an invulnerability feat.

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Not even his best feat. The Ship feat and apartment feat are much better. That and this feat is impossible to quantify because the beam is meant to increase gravity.

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He is off the chart.

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#8  Edited By deltahuman

I won't put a number on this feat. I'm sure it's incredibly high and it's probably one of the best unaided striking feats in live action, probably even the best. I mean the size of the World Engine was colossal and it's durability itself would be off the charts.

Whats more impressive is Superman's durability in that scene. By the time he was in the vicinity of the WE, Supes was already experiencing the effects of a Kryptonian atmosphere. His abilities weren't at their peak. But the terraforming beam is something else altogether. The scientist with the US Army clearly states that the terraforming beam was changing the nature of matter, making it heavier and denser, like the stuff in Krypton. So it was essentially matter manipulation of some kind and Superman straight up no sells it too. Not only that, the terraforming beam had immense force acting downwards going by the amount of water it was displacing. So Superman was essentially experiencing 3 different forces against him. The Kryptonian atmosphere that makes him weaker, The matter manipulation effects of the beam and the immense force of the beam acting on Superman when he stood right below it.

Superman negated all that force and matter manipulation whilst being considerably weaker than his normal self and still managed to fly up and essentially one shot that colossal machine. That in my book is extremely impressive and makes even his inexperienced MoS version unstoppable in his full might. JL Superman in his full might, unhindered by any weakness effects would truly be unstoppable.

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Street level feat...

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@crater_maker: Everyone says the beam itself is unquantifiable but I'm not so sure.

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#11  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@theomnidoctor said:

Interesting. Many people believe that Supes can only lift 7,500 tonnes.

Another question is if the World Engine feat is either overrated or underrated.

It's overrated. Somehow it's extrapolated to small-country level even though he didn't even bust the ship. He destroyed it yes, but that means squat the same way CM destroying Sanctuary doesn't actually mean anything. Let's not pretend it wasn't unaided by propulsion either.

It's one of his greatest feats, but goddamn.

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#12  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@heatforce said:

@crater_maker: Everyone says the beam itself is unquantifiable but I'm not so sure.

It isn't enough constant force to keep him on the ground that's for sure.

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It's one of his best strength feats imo, once you see how much water the beam was displacing and he was still able to stand up through it and raise his arm above his head.

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@rajjarsalt: i think it was given the water displacement didn't occur until after the beam started firing and it remains displaced instead of flowing back towards the beam.

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#15  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@heatforce said:

@rajjarsalt: i think it was given the water displacement didn't occur until after the beam started firing and it remains displaced instead of flowing back towards the beam.

I'm not sure how much water displacement is due to the (newly) pre-existing mass at any given point in time after the beam lands, and how much is due to the current contact force at the end of the beam. I can imagine that it's constant force at the end of the beam, so the water displacement should get higher because there's more particulate in that region of space due to the beam's extended duration.

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@the_hajduk:

False

Sup at hypersonic speed blitzed through zods ship and rocked it

Cap marv never rocked a ship

Also after explosions keep ships are fairly intact >>>>> any mcu ship dureabilty

Besides that the gravity beam rocked skyscrapers far away from it

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@the_hajduk:

False

Sup at hypersonic speed blitzed through zods ship and rocked it

Cap marv never rocked a ship

Also after explosions keep ships are fairly intact >>>>> any mcu ship dureabilty

Besides that the gravity beam rocked skyscrapers far away from it

MCU ships > neutron star + black hole hahaha

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#19  Edited By Trump2020

@rajjarsalt:

WHY DONT YOU COMPARE( AFTER EXPLOSIONS) THE DURABILITY OF MCU AND DCEU SHIPS?

we both know the answer. zods worldengine landing destroyed a mountaintop and was still mostly intact after sup bull rush.

krytp ships were made to traverse the galaxy and built to last >>>>>>>>>>>>>>any mcu ship durability

HUMAN BANNER AWOKE QUICKER THAN THOR WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE DEVILS ANUS

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Easily above most conventional weaponry. I'd honestly consider this feat enough to one shot the likes of MCU Hulk and maybe even MCU Thanos.

And Doomsday overpowered this madness with one hand.

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Flying under the Kryptonian gravity is impressive, busting through the ship's vitals can be replicated by any high tier

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#22  Edited By Olubummo

Superman destroyed the World Engine by flying through it while Weakened.

Superman also Stood under and Overpowered the World Engine Gravity Beam that was transforming Earth to Krypton:

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Superman Struggled to fly because of 2 things:

[1] He was Weak.

[2] He was going against the World Engine unimaginable Pressure and Gravity {which requires Lifting Force - Look at what it was doing to his Flesh on his Face👇}.

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Superman withstands the Full Force of the Gravity Beam generated by the World Engine:

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Just to be clear, the SHOCKWAVE is far greater than any Earthquake, as you can see in the Scene above👆

-> Keep in mind, World Engine is capable of Restructuring an entire Planet.

-> Planetary engineering.

When Superman is standing under the World Engine, he is being weakened by it:

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That's why he Struggles to fly:

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-> When Superman got close to the World Engine, he started falling down as you can see in the Scene above👆

Even when Superman was weakened and in near-Kryptonian surroundings, Superman was able to destroy a terraforming engine, capable of restructuring an entire Planet.

Kryptonian Ships are Pretty Durable:

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Their Technology is far beyond that of Earth.

As i was saying, Superman was not at Full Power, but he was able to withstand and Overpower the Gravity Beam generated by the World Engine and also destroyed the World Engine, he was reaching out for the SUN after he destroyed the World Engine because he got weakened by the World Engine and was not yet at Full Power. Literally, he was weak when he Overpowered the Gravity Beam and destroyed the World Engine.

->>> World Engine was putting unimaginable Pressure and Gravity to terraform Earth to Krypton. Superman being able to go against that much PRESSURE isn't an ordinary feat.

-> It's a Spectacular feat of Strength, and definitely required multi-millions of tons of Lifting Force and ‛‛above’’. Superman was flying straight through the beam AND through the World Engine which is over 130 metres tall.

Gravity beam that was going to single-handedly terraform Earth.

->>>> Superman Overpowered the World Engine Gravity Beam and also destroyed the World Engine.

The most interesting thing was that, he did it while he was Weakened, he wasn't at Full Power:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jSjI7gwuKtg

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@rajjarsalt:

WHY DONT YOU COMPARE( AFTER EXPLOSIONS) THE DURABILITY OF MCU AND DCEU SHIPS?

we both know the answer. zods worldengine landing destroyed a mountaintop and was still mostly intact after sup bull rush.

krytp ships were made to traverse the galaxy and built to last >>>>>>>>>>>>>>any mcu ship durability

HUMAN BANNER AWOKE QUICKER THAN THOR WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE DEVILS ANUS

Black hole + Neutron Star > Mountain top

Where is destroyed mountain top?

Supes bullrush = mountain top,

Reason it was mostly intact is because Clark didn't bust it.

MCU is a universe, many ships can do that too.

Devil's Anus is part of Devil, Ghost Rider with demonic power tanked plutonium bomb > Superman.

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#26  Edited By Juicers

comparable to MCU Thor's ring feat

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Too damn strong for the MCU

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Stronger than MCU Foddernos.