MCU Yellowjacket/Darren Cross (Corey Stoll) is an underrated villain. (Article on Moviepilot)

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I found this article and I agree with most of it. Except for him being the MCU's best villain. I still liked Loki and Wilson Fisk more. But he is a really good villain portrayed by a great actor.

https://moviepilot.com/posts/3468035

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I disagree. Cross was incredibly generic. I mean, the man is basically a carbon copy of Obadiah Stane, and I didn't like Obadiah Stane either. Both of their motivations can be summed up with the word "money."

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I agree on the love to hate part of his character and the fact that ppl have to get Loki out of their head when they watch a Marvel movie.

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#4  Edited By MAZAHS117  Online

He’s almost as bland and meh as Ronan and Malekith, only difference is his suit looked cooler. I don’t remember a damn thing about his character other than Yellow Jacket suit

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The writer completely misses the point of a good villain. They don't have to be likeable/hateable, but they should have a clear motivation and character.

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I disagree. Cross was incredibly generic. I mean, the man is basically a carbon copy of Obadiah Stane, and I didn't like Obadiah Stane either. Both of their motivations can be summed up with the word "money."

This, plus he literally killed a baby sheep for absolutely no reason. He was a terrible villain.

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He was a really average villain.

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@mrmonster: Probably an unpopular opinion, but I enjoyed Obadiah Stane a lot as a villain. And I don't think that money was all that was to their motivation. Obadiah was big and powerful but alway had to settle for second place (first with Howard then with Tony Stark) and Darren Cross had this close personal relation with Pym that turned from Pym being a father-figure and mentor to Cross usurping him as CEO not only because of money but also because of his obsession with the pym-particles and being lied to by Pym about them.

@thespartanb345t: I pretty much saw that in Cross.

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Would have been a lot more interesting if Cross were the brother of Hank Pym’s Wife and he blamed Hank for the disappearance of his sister. That would have tied back into the main story better and gave the villian a more emotional arch. He could have wanted the tech to find his sister, but when Hank refused due to the tech being too dangerous. Cross could have went mad with rage and took things too far.

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#11  Edited By Kevd4wg

I liked Obadiah, but I didn't love Cross he was ok, but not great. If you want a really good love to hate villain look at Dolorous Umbridge. You hate here with every fiber of your being and it feels amazing when she is beaten.

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@janjukbma: I agree. I liked Obadiah alot and it was a bummer knowing he was going to become a villain eventually. Cross was a bit boring because they told us about his and Hank's relationship but didn't show much.

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He is an okay villain. You understand what he was trying to do, as he was just blinded by money. But then he falls apart in the 3rd act when he is willing to kill a random family for no reason and mess with scott's family. Also his line "Your very existence is insulting" had no buildup and the two never really had any interactions until the 3rd act. He was insulting to him because he robbed some stuff? Kind of hypocritical when you realize he killed Frank in the bathroom just because he was a bit curious lol.

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I disagree. Cross was incredibly generic. I mean, the man is basically a carbon copy of Obadiah Stane, and I didn't like Obadiah Stane either. Both of their motivations can be summed up with the word "money."

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He is an okay villain. You understand what he was trying to do, as he was just blinded by money. But then he falls apart in the 3rd act when he is willing to kill a random family for no reason and mess with scott's family. Also his line "Your very existence is insulting" had no buildup and the two never really had any interactions until the 3rd act. He was insulting to him because he robbed some stuff? Kind of hypocritical when you realize he killed Frank in the bathroom just because he was a bit curious lol.

Hank choosing Scott over him to be his successor. That was the whole reason he was pissed at him and went after his daughter

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Yellowjacket is the worse.