So jobbing Pre- homecoming Peter can easily defeat Falcon and Bucky
Easily takes down Giant Man as well
But loses to damn Cap in the most stupidiest way possible? no precog or awareness? Clear PIS!
@royal_warrior: He technically did beat him due to PIS, because one shield slam would've finished him but he was on a mission to get to the aircraft.
Yeah, but in Civil War Peter wasn’t really even trying to fight Cap. And Cap didn’t win, just trapped him and left. Homecoming Peter, on the other hand, would probably find the most ridiculous way to lose, because he was just an idiot.
Yeah, but in Civil War Peter wasn’t really even trying to fight Cap. And Cap didn’t win, just trapped him and left. Homecoming Peter, on the other hand, would probably find the most ridiculous way to lose, because he was just an idiot.
@ithemanwithoutfeari: Not really.
@ithemanwithoutfeari: Its just PIS, if Peter stopped him they wouldnt have got to the plane and what are you on about "he got his ass whopped", no he didnt he made Cap try hard.
@ithemanwithoutfeari: Cap got in 2 hits and Spider-Man got in 1. How does that translates to an ass whooping?
Tony said it himself cap coudlve easily ragdolled peter, but he was going easy on him.
Get over it, cap is a better/more skilled fighter.
@ithemanwithoutfeari: so basically Spider-Man whooped half as much ass as cap did, but you can't admit it? You'd rather just insult people who question you?
@ithemanwithoutfeari: so basically Spider-Man whooped half as much ass as cap did, but you can't admit it? You'd rather just insult people who question you?
Getting - 50% of the hits in is actually really bad (-75% if you count dropping the jet-bridge onto his head). The only reason it dones't sound that bad is because 3 punches/kicks were thrown in total. But it was obvious that Cap could have landed another free shot, when Peter was trapped.
But the fact that Spider-Man had pre knowledge from Tony is the only reason he landed his 1 hit at all, so yes I personally think its an major ass whooping.
At least it looked like one to me.
I also don't think fanboy is an insult.
The inside of the airport was a better area for Peter to use his webbing and swing around. When he fought Cap he had to fight in a different way that was more suitable to Steve. On top of that Bucky didn't really have a way to fight Peter in the airport. I think he just threw that one object Peter while Peter was chasing Falcon. On top of that when he got captured he literally wasn't even fighting Peter he had just run over to protect Falcon and he got knocked over and than webbed up.
When Peter fought Cap, Steve had his shield which is a good defense against webbing. I also feel that Cap is somewhat more skilled than Bucky. Peter had to come to Steve and engage him in a more up close fight which isn't Peters strong suit.
I believe that Peter will pass Cap in Infinity War. I just think that so far he is just meant to be inexperienced and that allows him to lose to a very skilled opponent especially when the environment doesn't suit him. He is much stronger faster, more durable and probably faster than Steve. Just give him a little more time to learn how to fight.
Peter's 15 fighting the strongest most skilled fighter in the world he did pretty good though it's obvious Peter outclasses him in strength, speed, reflexes, and durability
It's not PIS only because of the timing. Peter is still very inexperienced (not even a year's worth of experience) and he's up against freaking Captain America.
Thus, it's perfectly feasible. On the other hand, this is no indication of Cap actually being superior to Spider-Man in any way either lol.
Besides, it was Cap's movie.
Spider-man was able to beat Bucky because Bucky is pretty straight forward. While he isn't a skilless brute honestly he doesn't really display much tactics during his fights. Because peter was stronger than him, and his skill didn't compensate for Peter's spider-powers he was on the losing end.
Steve is just better than Bucky. Steve beating spider-man and bucky losing is just a testament to that. Steve beating Peter isn't PIS and I don't know why people are surprised.
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Yeah, but in Civil War Peter wasn’t really even trying to fight Cap. And Cap didn’t win, just trapped him and left. Homecoming Peter, on the other hand, would probably find the most ridiculous way to lose, because he was just an idiot.
@jashro44: Well Considering peter takes hits that can flip over a school bus multiple times, it’s kinda bs that cap can hurt and stun him.
@jashro44: Well Considering peter takes hits that can flip over a school bus multiple times, it’s kinda bs that cap can hurt and stun him.
Spider-mans durability is usually like this in all forms of media. If I had to rationalize it I would say that there is just more to spider-mans durability. In the comics spider-man has a healing factor as well as "enhanced durability". Plus he uses his agility to roll with hits some times. I think all his powers come together to let him take hits above his weight class but at the same time he can be hurt by weaker enemies.
I don't know if the same applies to the MCU. As I said I am just speculating. Either way I don't think I would make a big deal about spider-man being hurt by cap.
@lfrankthetank27: @jashro44: It's not as bs as Steve being able to hurt T'Challa, he's just that strong.
@anthp2000: I don't really know if Steve hurt T'challa. All we really saw was T'challa getting knocked around.
Tony said it himself cap coudlve easily ragdolled peter, but he was going easy on him.
Get over it, cap is a better/more skilled fighter.
Someone can't differentiate between PIS and "things that I don't like".
@anthp2000: Peter actually looked stunned. Like I said, I don’t think cap can replicate a punch capable of flipping over a 5 ton school bus, so... it’s still kinda bs.
What was pis imo was Pete not webbing cap up the moment he had the chance. He literally webs up everyone else to the floor/wall the first chance he gets, yet when cap is on the floor sprawling, he just quips. Unlike what he did against falcon and Bucky, or any/everyone in homecoming
But cap beating him is isnt pis, just the way it happened was a little out of character for Pete.
Guys, MCU Spidey has little to no experience at the super hero gig, he's never fought any enhanced individuals prior to the events of Civil War and Homecoming,so I have no idea why people expect him to have no issue fighting a superhuman WW2 Veteran who's had more action in a day than Peter's had in his entire life.
Honestly when you take a look at his Homecoming feats the real PiS is Spidey beating those guys earlier if anything.
Falcon, Bucky (with smart moves/assasination) and Ant man all individually would've easily soloed Vulture and his crew lol.
@anthp2000: I don't really know if Steve hurt T'challa. All we really saw was T'challa getting knocked around.
As much as it pains me to admit this, I agree. There wasn't really any indication that BP was harmed by anything other than Wanda throwing him. That at least took him from the fight for a while (I time-stamped it once. I can't remember exactly but I think it was over a minute). I only recall a single grunt of pain coming from T'Challa and it was when he was struck by Bucky's arm.
That does not mean that T'Challa is physically superior though. It may very well be because of his seriously impressive suit. We won't know for sure until the BP movie.
@jashro44: Well Considering peter takes hits that can flip over a school bus multiple times, it’s kinda bs that cap can hurt and stun him.
Spider-mans durability is usually like this in all forms of media. If I had to rationalize it I would say that there is just more to spider-mans durability. In the comics spider-man has a healing factor as well as "enhanced durability". Plus he uses his agility to roll with hits some times. I think all his powers come together to let him take hits above his weight class but at the same time he can be hurt by weaker enemies.
I don't know if the same applies to the MCU. As I said I am just speculating. Either way I don't think I would make a big deal about spider-man being hurt by cap.
It is a big deal when Spidey gets completely blindsided and gets sent through an entire school bus and he is relatively unfazed. Since when did MCU Cap have the power to replicate hits like this?
Keep in mind these same shocker punches ragdoll 10 ton school buses like nothing.
@ifrankthetank28: you do know that Spider-Man’s durability has never been consistent right? At the end of the day he’s still a street level hero, so it makes sense that someone like Cap can faze him with a punch
@solid_snake97: It’s been consistent enough in his showings in the MCU to the point where cap shouldn’t be able to hurt him.
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