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Posted by The_Magister (12517 posts) 1 year, 5 months ago

Poll: MCU: Who was the true head of HYDRA? (33 votes)

Arnim Zola 33%
Daniel Whitehall 0%
Alexander Pierce 30%
Gideon Malick 18%
Wolfgang Von Strucker 9%
Grant Ward 6%

Within the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which of these heads of HYDRA was the most effective at strengthening and managing the Red Skull's empire?

Consider multiple factors such as intelligence, discipline, adaptability, and general efficiency as a leader.

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#1 Edited by DSTREET45 (5126 posts) - - Show Bio

Hive. But since he's not in the poll...Malick.

FYI, Red Skull HYDRA wasn't the original HYDRA.

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#2 Posted by The_Magister (12517 posts) - - Show Bio

@dstreet45: Yeah I know, but he was the founder of the modern-day incarnation of the ancient cult. As Malick said, he was following the principle that HYDRA was built upon: that the ultimate power is not of this world.

I don't really consider Hive to be much of a HYDRA Head, his commitment to the organization was pretty much nonexistent.

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#3 Edited by DSTREET45 (5126 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_magister: Truth be told I was kinda joking about Hive.

I chose Malick since did the best he could to accomplish the true goals of HYDRA and he was the only one out of everyone in the poll to actually succeed in achieving a goal as almost everyone else either died trying or...died trying. Ward never got to use his HYDRA to exact vengeance/chaos against S.H.I.E.L.D. and was killed by Coulson, Strucker was stopped by the Avengers and later killed by Ultron, Pierce was stopped by Cap's team and killed by Fury in Winter Soldier, Whitehall was stopped by S.H.I.E.L.D. and killed by Coulson, and Zola's plan died with the helicarriers in Winter Soldier.

And yeah I took the factors in the OP into account.

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#4 Posted by The_Magister (12517 posts) - - Show Bio

@dstreet45: Cool, it looks like you gave this some thought, I'm glad to see that. Fair assessment!

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#9 Posted by uugieboogie (12800 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap

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#11 Posted by LDM (5346 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Hydra

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#12 Posted by vinomonster (5546 posts) - - Show Bio

Kevin Feige

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#14 Posted by Stahlflamme (5407 posts) - - Show Bio

Since Zola and Pierce were Struckers underlings. Strucker held more power in the organisation than Whitehall. Ward sucked at the job and Malick was not a follower of the Red Skulls Hydra in the first place but the fundamental Hydra/Hive cult splinter group, that Strucker also had influence in. I would say Strucker.

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#15 Edited by TrueMoonchilde (1987 posts) - - Show Bio

Zola was the one responsible for infiltrating SHIELD. He pretty much ensured their power for 70 years.

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#16 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (15351 posts) - - Show Bio

Alexander Pierce, he took down SHIELD and fooled everyone for decades.

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#17 Posted by jao48 (453 posts) - - Show Bio

Zola was the one responsible for infiltrating SHIELD. He pretty much ensured their power for 70 years.

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#18 Edited by deactivated-5a84a212043e5 (2790 posts) - - Show Bio

As far as I know, all of those characters are currently dead.

  • Arnim Zola
    • Died, only to be resurrected by computers, to die again from a missile.
  • Daniel Whitehall
    • Fairly certain Coulson killed him.
  • Alexander Pierce
    • Fury shot him
  • Gideon Malick
    • Daisy quaked the $%^& out of him
  • Wolfgang Von Strucker
    • Killed off screen by Ultron for no reason.
  • Grant Ward
    • Killed by Hive, then later killed by a nuke.

The MCU usually doesn't go without a head of hydra for long, I'm sure another will come along. Maybe Sunhil Bakshi LOL. As for WHO was the most In-charge...Pierce I guess. He ordered the whole revolt against SHIELD.

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#19 Posted by deactivated-5a84a212043e5 (2790 posts) - - Show Bio

Nevermind everything I said. It was this guy.

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#21 Edited by FlashKnight (729 posts) - - Show Bio

Zola. If it wasn't for him Hydra would have died.