MCU: What are Black Sky's abilities?

Why did the fingers of the hand not say anything about Elektra ghosting behind Alexandra if they could see her?

How strong was she to be able to solo the defenders?

Does anything scale to the people who fought her? Or was she jobbing to everyone?

Did she deflect a bullet?

Or does none of this count because in your view, the MCU is 'grounded' and 'realistic'?

Discuss, i'm curious

My guess is that she has-

Enhanced Strength

Master Martial artist

Enhanced agility

Enchanced Stamina

Enhanced reflexes

Peak human speed

Enhanced durability

Expert with most weapons

She's obviously enhanced. I'd say she's a bullet timer with physicals somewhere near the Super Soliders. Her ability to fight is blurred because she's used her physicals to bust the Defenders. I'd say she's Matt's level in H2H.

Hmm I dont think her speed is enhanced as thats like 60mph (pretty fast), peak human speed is still fast like 30-40 mph. Her fighting aint enhanced shes a master martial artist to take down all of the defenders and pushed away Luke.

Superhuman physicals, master martial artist. Basically a faster, more skilled Cap.

Superhuman/supernatural physicals and extremely skilled. Her coming up behind Alexandra is just a ninja thing, not some extra ability.

I think she's roughly on mcu Cap's level physical wise but slightly better at fighting. Not quite sure if she has his durability though. I think the car running into her out of the window put her down for a while.

She's MCU super soldier level and above that in speed

@tj849: She bullet timed.

And she can naturally fight without learning. Enhanced fighting.

I can't justify all of these feats for her when watching this fight scene:

@nfactor1995: Matt states she's been holding back in the final episode, but they didn't know who each other were at that point so that fight is legit. (I'm just saying that so when someone brings it up)

Why couldn't Matt have just improved to be that good? People don't dismiss CW Arrow's feats for doing stuff for some reason despite on paper, He has literally no chance against anybody he fights. I mean look at how much better Daredevil's gotten.

Ragdolled Bakuto destroying concrete

Fought Bakuto (fodderized Colleen) and Murakami (Fodderized Jessica, outgrappled Luke) simultaneously and was tagged, I think, once.

Confirmed to be the best fighter both Elektra (In DDS2) and Stick has seen and as their fight showed, he's quite a bit more skilled then Danny tagging him a good 10+ times while Danny got like 2.

@nfactor1995: so one scene outweighs multiple others?

@maahes:

Matt states she's been holding back in the final episode, but they didn't know who each other were at that point so that fight is legit. (I'm just saying that so when someone brings it up)

I see.

Why couldn't Matt have just improved to be that good? People don't dismiss CW Arrow's feats for doing stuff for some reason despite on paper, He has literally no chance against anybody he fights. I mean look at how much better Daredevil's gotten.

I mean, people actually do do that. PIS is called all the time.

Ragdolled Bakuto destroying concrete

Fought Bakuto (fodderized Colleen) and Murakami (Fodderized Jessica, outgrappled Luke) simultaneously and was tagged, I think, once.

Quite impressive. However regarding the Bakuto/Murakami fight, didn't Matt fight them both simultaneously, then right afterwards have a relatively even fight with Bakuto solo? Maybe the fights in Defenders are just inconsistent.

Confirmed to be the best fighter both Elektra (In DDS2) and Stick has seen and as their fight showed, he's quite a bit more skilled then Danny tagging him a good 10+ times while Danny got like 2.

Did Stick say that in Defenders?

Yes. Stick told Danny that Matt was one of the most naturally skilled fighters he had ever seen.

She is enhanced in every way. Matt even hanging with her and taking some of her hard hits just makes him all the more impressive. Danny got beaten by her solidly twice and Daredevil did much better against her

@nfactor1995:

I mean, people actually do do that. PIS is called all the time.

I haven't seen people discredit it, but fair enough I guess.

Quite impressive. However regarding the Bakuto/Murakami fight, didn't Matt fight them both simultaneously, then right afterwards have a relatively even fight with Bakuto solo? Maybe the fights in Defenders are just inconsistent.

Matt never attempted to attack and just kinda weaved through everything Bakuto did. Once Colleen showed up Bakuto deflected one attack each and then got rolled.

Did Stick say that in Defenders?

Yeah he says it to Danny in the restaurant, Stick thought Matt was the most naturally gifted fighter he's ever seen. Episode 4? I think.

Beceuse he spent the time skip beetwen Daredevil season 2 and Defenders pursuing his lawyer carrier? His improvement (if there is any) is completely illogical.

@jayc1324: No lmao, she would not beat Cap... have you watched the Avengers or Cap movies? She is enhanced, at most, Cap is an actual superhuman.

She solo'd the Defenders, while Luke alone has a chance at beating Cap.

Enhanced strength (KOs Jessica).

Enhanced speed (blocks bullets on her sword).

Extremely deadly H2H fighter (when not holding back against Matt, she's better than all the Defenders and could have killed Matt about four times in their final fight alone by Matt's own admission).

@jayc1324: Luke was already almost KO'd and both Danny and Matt did well against her, she isn't beating Cap lmao. This wank needs to stop, it is laughable at this point.

Luke doesnt have the slightest chance at beating Cap.

I also doubt that Elektra can beat Cap. But thats definitely debatable.

What do you mean by ninja thing?

I don't see how she can just sneak up behind someone in full view of 3 people without anyone noticing. Unless she pulled some elmer fudd type shenanigans

@ithemanwithoutfeari: FINALLY someone else agrees T_T

She's clearly enhanced, but she probably couldn't take out Luke when he isn't on the gas. She'd also lose to Captain America one v one pretty easily.

As for skilled fighters. Daredevil was better than her in season 2. Matt also seems more talented than Danny in a straight fight, at least with the added bonus of wearing his armor. The fist makes Danny the biggest weapon of the four, though.

It never said he quit training, and I'm not sure "it's illogical" is a good argument with the series that has a blind ninja lawyer, shaolin monk with steel busting chi, a bulletproof superhuman and a woman that can lift cars hunting down a ninja organization as old as time so they can't use dragon bones to become immortal.

Luke was actually just waking up, he wasn't almost KO'd. Danny never did well against her, she toyed with him until he activated the Iron Fist, at which point she made him open the door to the dragon's bones against his will. He literally did everything she wanted him to. And now I am questioning if you watched the show since you apparently don't know that Elektra holds back on Matt. I seriously don't get why so many people refuse to acknowledge that, even though she explicitly says it.

@jayc1324:

He is more durable and arguably stronger, if Batroc can knock Cap down Luke certainly has a chance. He KO's people by literally plucking their heads, Cap doesn't have strength like that.

Elektra embarrassed Luke in combat. Luke is too slow too keep up with enhanced characters in combat. Even a much slower Danny was running circles around him temporarily.

Caps DMG output feats with the shield blow Lukes out of the water. Cap can hurt him even without the shield. A much less impressive JJ could send him flying with her kicks.

Cap improved a lot since the Batroc fight in almost every category.

Most people think Elektra would win based on the poll here but like you said it is debatable.

Yeah this is a close one.

@jayc1324: I don't think its debatable :P but whatever.