that wanda was canonically weaker than MoM wanda and through use of stealth peggy got into close quarters with her where she logically should dominate but failed to do so. even in close quarters she got outskilled and killed by wanda. if anything it’s an anti feat for peggy
It is a speed anti-feat since Peggy was able to dodge multiple blasts from Wanda and Wanda couldn't even statue her (since some people try to claim she has lightspeed reaction or smt)
I don't really feel like she had too hard of a time with her. IIRC Peggy didn't do any damage with her stealth attack, tries to fight her in melee but gets yeeted and then Wanda one-shot kills her.
This while an indeterminable amount of Wanda's power and concentration was being used on dreamwalking into somebody who is already a lesser conduit of her power.
I guess the issue is her speed? But I think when it comes to crunch, disparities in combat speed are largely negligible in the MCU.
I don't really feel like she had too hard of a time with her. IIRC Peggy didn't do any damage with her stealth attack, tries to fight her in melee but gets yeeted and then Wanda one-shot kills her.
This while an indeterminable amount of Wanda's power and concentration was being used on dreamwalking into somebody who is already a lesser conduit of her power.
I guess the issue is her speed? But I think when it comes to crunch, disparities in combat speed are largely negligible in the MCU.
Her speed can’t be an issue when she is relativistic…
I don't really feel like she had too hard of a time with her. IIRC Peggy didn't do any damage with her stealth attack, tries to fight her in melee but gets yeeted and then Wanda one-shot kills her.
This while an indeterminable amount of Wanda's power and concentration was being used on dreamwalking into somebody who is already a lesser conduit of her power.
I guess the issue is her speed? But I think when it comes to crunch, disparities in combat speed are largely negligible in the MCU.
Her speed can’t be an issue when she is relativistic…
I don't really feel like she had too hard of a time with her. IIRC Peggy didn't do any damage with her stealth attack, tries to fight her in melee but gets yeeted and then Wanda one-shot kills her.
This while an indeterminable amount of Wanda's power and concentration was being used on dreamwalking into somebody who is already a lesser conduit of her power.
I guess the issue is her speed? But I think when it comes to crunch, disparities in combat speed are largely negligible in the MCU.
Her speed can’t be an issue when she is relativistic…
No, because you have clearly never watched the movie and she never had a hardtime beating Peggy Carter.
Wanda clearly didn’t have any killing intent but was not uncomfortable with executing it on people that stood before her, and she was somewhat a feminist who would go easy on women, and considering that Peggy is a woman and may have had children waiting for her at home, Wanda would be left with no choice but to go easy on her and not outright kill her unless she had no other choice.
Wanda: Is their mother still alive?
Reed: Yes.
Wanda: Good. There will be someone left to raise them.
From that alone, we know that Wanda never wanted to kill anyone, especially potential parents, but was fine with doing it anyway if they chose to confront her, and Peggy shouldn’t be an exemption to this.
As we can clearly see, Wanda fought Peggy and Maria SIMULTANEOUSLY and still caught her shield being thrown at her while using her other hand to block the energy beam from Captain Marvel.
The only time Peggy got a drop on her was when she took an advantage of the environment and Wanda’s inability to see clearly through fog in the 838 body, and it wasn’t even a clear drop because Wanda still reacted and put up a defensive aura as Peggy unnoticeably launched herself in on her with the help of the rocket engines behind her, and after that she would never get the chance again.
Peggy tried to hit her head with the shield but Wanda swiftly dodged it, and ran to her back.
Wanda then softly zapped her back to break her balance before Peggy even turned around, although she could have finished her with this blow alone if she truly wanted it.
Peggy finally turned back and tried to hit Wanda again but was unsuccessful as usual as Wanda casually grabbed the shield and stilled her motion.
Then again, Wanda had another solid chance of killing her but still chose not to, as she lifted Peggy up with her Chaos Magic, rolled her around and threw her on the ground.
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Peggy then performed the All-famous last-time shield throw and look what happened to her. Wanda not only caught it without any difficulty but threw it back at her, cutting her in half, before he could even turn her face back, while the spin she previously made was not even 180 degrees.
This is the whole video if you believe anything said over there was untrue.
The fight with the Illuminati, except against Charles Xavier, cannot be considered an anti feat as no such thing was displayed anywhere in the room where they fought and only exists in downplayers’ daydream.
I don't really feel like she had too hard of a time with her. IIRC Peggy didn't do any damage with her stealth attack, tries to fight her in melee but gets yeeted and then Wanda one-shot kills her.
This while an indeterminable amount of Wanda's power and concentration was being used on dreamwalking into somebody who is already a lesser conduit of her power.
I guess the issue is her speed? But I think when it comes to crunch, disparities in combat speed are largely negligible in the MCU.
> Wanda was weakened by the inferior variant's body and dreamwalking spell
> 838 Carter is featless outside of her Wanda fight and variants don't scale
> only other Peggy we've seen (What if) was magnitudes above 616 super soldiers like Steve or Winter Soldier anyway (she could flip armed jeeps, timed tank shells and fight off giant tentacle kaiju monster)
> Wanda never really struggled, she tanked the sneak attack and overpowered Carter right after
I don't really feel like she had too hard of a time with her. IIRC Peggy didn't do any damage with her stealth attack, tries to fight her in melee but gets yeeted and then Wanda one-shot kills her.
This while an indeterminable amount of Wanda's power and concentration was being used on dreamwalking into somebody who is already a lesser conduit of her power.
I guess the issue is her speed? But I think when it comes to crunch, disparities in combat speed are largely negligible in the MCU.
Her speed can’t be an issue when she is relativistic…
Peggy is casually being faster than the speed of light lmao. This is MCU for you, speed is negligible in combat scenarios for the most part.
if wanda wanted too sh could've just lifted her up and haxed her or whtv she wanted to but ofc the writers made it look like she was. she wasn't even struggling tho. carter did surprise her with the shield bash but wanda was still fine and proceeded to cut her in half with her own shield.
@bigbaby: i’ve been saying that for months and everyone trolls. mcu characters are all street level in combat speed. the directors very clearly don’t care about speed consistency.
I'd say it's a great feat, probably one of her best feats. Atleast if I assume Peggy is as powerful as Steve.
Yeah Cap did overpower and brawl it out with thanos a bunch, if anything this reaffirms the thanos scaling.
On a different note I dunno why speed is being brought up here when every mcu character fights at the same speed, except for their actual speedster Quicksilver who was swiftly turned to Swiss cheese by bullets.
No, because you have clearly never watched the movie and she never had a hardtime beating Peggy Carter.
Wanda clearly didn’t have any killing intent but was not uncomfortable with executing it on people that stood before her, and she was somewhat a feminist who would go easy on women, and considering that Peggy is a woman and may have had children waiting for her at home, Wanda would be left with no choice but to go easy on her and not outright kill her unless she had no other choice.
Wanda: Is their mother still alive?
Reed: Yes.
Wanda: Good. There will be someone left to raise them.
From that alone, we know that Wanda never wanted to kill anyone, especially potential parents, but was fine with doing it anyway if they chose to confront her, and Peggy shouldn’t be an exemption to this.
As we can clearly see, Wanda fought Peggy and Maria SIMULTANEOUSLY and still caught her shield being thrown at her while using her other hand to block the energy beam from Captain Marvel.
The only time Peggy got a drop on her was when she took an advantage of the environment and Wanda’s inability to see clearly through fog in the 838 body, and it wasn’t even a clear drop because Wanda still reacted and put up a defensive aura as Peggy unnoticeably launched herself in on her with the help of the rocket engines behind her, and after that she would never get the chance again.
Peggy tried to hit her head with the shield but Wanda swiftly dodged it, and ran to her back.
Wanda then softly zapped her back to break her balance before Peggy even turned around, although she could have finished her with this blow alone if she truly wanted it.
Peggy finally turned back and tried to hit Wanda again but was unsuccessful as usual as Wanda casually grabbed the shield and stilled her motion.
Then again, Wanda had another solid chance of killing her but still chose not to, as she lifted Peggy up with her Chaos Magic, rolled her around and threw her on the ground.
Gallery
Peggy then performed the All-famous last-time shield throw and look what happened to her. Wanda not only caught it without any difficulty but threw it back at her, cutting her in half, before he could even turn her face back, while the spin she previously made was not even 180 degrees.
This is the whole video if you believe anything said over there was untrue.
The fight with the Illuminati, except against Charles Xavier, cannot be considered an anti feat as no such thing was displayed anywhere in the room where they fought and only exists in downplayers’ daydream.
lol what hard time? what struggle? peggy bull rushed her with her shield ye but that was it. wanda was fine right later anyways. realistically tho that wouldn't and shouldn't have happened but whtv.
other than that wanda was not struggling at all. she was dodging and stopping peggys attacks and ended up killing her like 10 sec later
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