MCU Scarlet Witch confirmed to be galaxy level?

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Also says that her previous magic was one level under that.

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Nope. They were talking about the visuals

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Can I somehow scale that to Strange, though? That's all I care about, lol.

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Nope. They were talking about the visuals

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Top tier bait from da Raj-Man.

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Yea I’m all for MCU wank but that’s def just visuals

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@cryolancer47: I've seen better, ie Thanos shook the cosmos with a laugh.

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reading comprehension

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#11  Edited By RajjarsAlt
@nassergrant19 said:
@darkrealm said:
@edgelord91 said:

Nope. They were talking about the visuals

@supremegeneration said:

Yea I’m all for MCU wank but that’s def just visuals

First it's statements don't matter because no visuals

Now it's statements don't matter because visuals?

What else is

I remember they wanting to have something galaxy-like. It's a complicated assignment because Wanda's already super-powerful with her magic, so to create something that's a level up from that

supposed to mean? It's obviously talking about power levels.

Level up from what she already was is perfectly in line with this

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Can I somehow scale that to Strange, though? That's all I care about, lol.

As long as you scale Gargantos to it, as well:

MFTL++ Gargantos fodderizes Dr. High-Tier:

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It's all fair game :)

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I knew it

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@cryolancer47: Strange being knocked around by Gargantos speaks only about his durability, not raw power though.

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@cryolancer47: Strange being knocked around by Gargantos speaks only about his durability, not raw power though.

Gargantos also blitzed him, and was pressing both Strange + Wong.

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@cryolancer47: Strange being knocked around by Gargantos speaks only about his durability, not raw power though.

Strange is only a human, after all

Realistically Gargantos should have killed him with that blow

However Strange is a master at picking up insane feats

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cryolancer47 said:

Gargantos also blitzed him, and was pressing both Strange + Wong.

Which again, speaks about speed and reaction time, not raw power. And I don't exactly remember how the whole fight went, but Strange still killed Gargantos at the end, if my memory doesn't fail me.

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#20  Edited By CryoLancer47
@andromeda1001 said:

cryolancer47 said:

Gargantos also blitzed him, and was pressing both Strange + Wong.

Which again, speaks about speed and reaction time, not raw power. And I don't exactly remember how the whole fight went, but Strange still killed Gargantos at the end, if my memory doesn't fail me.

He only killed Gargantos because Chavez distracted it + his cape blinded the beast.

So he only lived because he got help.

And blitzing Strange that could react to IG Thanos during IW, is quite embarrassing. When Gargantos has been shown to be a slow fodder that even characters with below super soldier level combat speed like Wong could keep up with.

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@rajjarsalt said:

@andromeda1001 said:

@cryolancer47: Strange being knocked around by Gargantos speaks only about his durability, not raw power though.

Strange is only a human, after all

Realistically Gargantos should have killed him with that blow

However Strange is a master at picking up insane feats

Yea.

That's actually more a feat, than an anti-feat.

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cryolancer47 said:

Gargantos also blitzed him, and was pressing both Strange + Wong.

Which again, speaks about speed and reaction time, not raw power. And I don't exactly remember how the whole fight went, but Strange still killed Gargantos at the end, if my memory doesn't fail me.

Gargantos KOing him was a surprise attack too

He got distracted talking to America

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@andromeda1001 said:

@cryolancer47: Strange being knocked around by Gargantos speaks only about his durability, not raw power though.

Strange is only a human, after all

Realistically Gargantos should have killed him with that blow

However Strange is a master at picking up insane feats

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The first three feats you're showing above, is his spirit being sent on a journey by AO to teach him a lesson about what he doesn't know.

He wasn't going to die at any point.

And the last one was him and America traveling by using her powers. None of that is a durability feat.

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@cryolancer47 said:

He only killed Gargantos because Chavez distracted it + his cape blinded the beast.

So he only lived because he got help.

And blitzing Strange that could react to IG Thanos during IW, is quite embarrassing. When Gargantos has been shown to be a slow fodder that even characters with below super soldier level combat speed like Wong could keep up with.

As Raj himself said:

Gargantos KOing him was a surprise attack too

He got distracted talking to America

And Chavez and the Cloak of the Levitation distracting it, doesn't change that Strange still had the raw power to kill Gargantos, which's what I asked if Strange could be scaled to and the topic of the discussion right now.

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@cryolancer47 said:

He only killed Gargantos because Chavez distracted it + his cape blinded the beast.

So he only lived because he got help.

And blitzing Strange that could react to IG Thanos during IW, is quite embarrassing. When Gargantos has been shown to be a slow fodder that even characters with below super soldier level combat speed like Wong could keep up with.

As Raj himself said:

@rajjarsalt said:

Gargantos KOing him was a surprise attack too

He got distracted talking to America

And Chavez and the Cloak of the Levitation distracting it, doesn't change that Strange still had the raw power to kill Gargantos, which's what I asked if Strange could be scaled to and the topic of the discussion right now.

1. He had quite the bit of time to dodge the attack. He was alerted by Chavez. Turned around. Had enough time to put up his shield to block against that slow tentacle, or cut it.

The sneak attack excuse fails considering how slow the swing itself is.

2. He didn't kill it with Raw-Power. He summoned big hands while the thing got blinded to pull a lamb or sign or whatever form the ground. And them plunged it into it's eye and ripping out said eye with the object.

He did not kill it with his spells or anything. The sharp object did.

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@andromeda1001 said:

@cryolancer47 said:

He only killed Gargantos because Chavez distracted it + his cape blinded the beast.

So he only lived because he got help.

And blitzing Strange that could react to IG Thanos during IW, is quite embarrassing. When Gargantos has been shown to be a slow fodder that even characters with below super soldier level combat speed like Wong could keep up with.

As Raj himself said:

@rajjarsalt said:

Gargantos KOing him was a surprise attack too

He got distracted talking to America

And Chavez and the Cloak of the Levitation distracting it, doesn't change that Strange still had the raw power to kill Gargantos, which's what I asked if Strange could be scaled to and the topic of the discussion right now.

1. He had quite the bit of time to dodge the attack. He was alerted by Chavez. Turned around. Had enough time to put up his shield to block against that slow tentacle, or cut it.

The sneak attack excuse fails considering how slow the swing itself is.

2. He didn't kill it with Raw-Power. He summoned big hands while the thing got blinded to pull a lamb or sign or whatever form the ground. And them plunged it into it's eye and ripping out said eye with the object.

He did not kill it with his spells or anything. The sharp object did.

Didn't he dismember it with a sharp object made of his own magic

And aren't limbs stronger than eyes etc

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@cryolancer47 said:

1. He had quite the bit of time to dodge the attack. He was alerted by Chavez. Turned around. Had enough time to put up his shield to block against that slow tentacle, or cut it.

The sneak attack excuse fails considering how slow the swing itself is.

2. He didn't kill it with Raw-Power. He summoned big hands while the thing got blinded to pull a lamb or sign or whatever form the ground. And them plunged it into it's eye and ripping out said eye with the object.

He did not kill it with his spells or anything. The sharp object did.

  1. It's possible that was moving at a faster speed, and only looked that slow so viewers could follow the scenes. It wouldn't the first time movies did that, Nolan has explicitly admitted to do that with his Batman trilogy.
  2. I watched the scene again, but Strange's magical constructs still needed to have the raw power to hurt Gargantos, which did it twice.
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@andromeda1001 said:

Can I somehow scale that to Strange, though? That's all I care about, lol.

As long as you scale Gargantos to it, as well:

MFTL++ Gargantos fodderizes Dr. High-Tier:

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It's all fair game :)

LOL

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#29  Edited By CryoLancer47
@andromeda1001 said:

@cryolancer47 said:

1. He had quite the bit of time to dodge the attack. He was alerted by Chavez. Turned around. Had enough time to put up his shield to block against that slow tentacle, or cut it.

The sneak attack excuse fails considering how slow the swing itself is.

2. He didn't kill it with Raw-Power. He summoned big hands while the thing got blinded to pull a lamb or sign or whatever form the ground. And them plunged it into it's eye and ripping out said eye with the object.

He did not kill it with his spells or anything. The sharp object did.

  1. It's possible that was moving at a faster speed, and only looked that slow so viewers could follow the scenes. It wouldn't the first time movies did that, Nolan has explicitly admitted to do that with his Batman trilogy.
  2. I watched the scene again, but Strange's magical constructs still needed to have the raw power to hurt Gargantos, which did it twice.

Don't know why I wasn't notified about this comment.

Anyways:

1. He wasn't moving faster. People were reacting to Gargantos and running away. And even America, a fodder who isn't even peak human level by feats, can react to the swing and alert Strange. So Strange not being fast enough is his own fault.

And what other directors do =/ What Raimi does.

He showed that even fodder like America can percieve him. And Wong can react to him.

2. Strange's constructs only needed enough power to rip the lamp from the ground. But they pierced Gargantos in his weak spot. His eye ball. Literally the softest part in any body. A baby holding a pencil can do the same to a grown man. But we know the baby sure as hell isn't stronger than the man. And doesn't have more Raw-Power.

That's not a raw strength feat.

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Who cares?, She's confirmed to be way past this already, it doesn't matter.

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@cryolancer47 said:

Don't know why I wasn't notified about this comment.

Anyways:

1. He wasn't moving faster. People were reacting to Gargantos and running away. And even America, a fodder who isn't even peak human level by feats, can react to the swing and alert Strange. So Strange not being fast enough is his own fault.

And what other directors do =/ What Raimi does.

He showed that even fodder like America can percieve him. And Wong can react to him.

2. Strange's constructs only needed enough power to rip the lamp from the ground. But they pierced Gargantos in his weak spot. His eye ball. Literally the softest part in any body. A baby holding a pencil can do the same to a grown man. But we know the baby sure as hell isn't stronger than the man. And doesn't have more Raw-Power.

That's not a raw strength feat.

Fair enough on those points, but again, I don't think any of this disproves his raw power. One of them is still all about speed and durability, while the second doesn't mean that Stephen can't reach the level of power discussed here.

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No, she's not galaxy level. And Strange is underrated. Him fighting Gargantos doesn't make him weak.

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She's deff the most powerful MCU character but I wouldn't say galaxy, ie not controlling the whole world or not recreating her children again. Two thing that a galactic power should do.

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if it was thor people would treat it as if it was a real feat

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People trying to discredit her power for not recreating her children clearly didn't watch MoM or Wanda-Vision nor know anything about her character.

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MCU Scarlet Witch confirmed to be galaxy level?

No, Garou is

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#39  Edited By CryoLancer47
@emmafrostxmen said:

if it was thor people would treat it as if it was a real feat

No sane person would actually believe MCU Thor is anywhere near galaxy level. He's not even Planetary-level. Let alone galaxy.

Anyone who tries to use such a thing wouldn't be taken seriously.

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People trying to discredit her power for not recreating her children clearly didn't watch MoM or Wanda-Vision nor know anything about her character.

If Wanda is so powerful then why didn't she just warp Strange (who's not even planetary) into incapacitation?

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OT: This is about as credible as using Superman's tectonic plate "feat".

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@darkrealm said:

People trying to discredit her power for not recreating her children clearly didn't watch MoM or Wanda-Vision nor know anything about her character.

If Wanda is so powerful then why didn't she just warp Strange (who's not even planetary) into incapacitation?

You could literally say this about any character.

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@aystarr said:
@superdarth said:
@darkrealm said:

People trying to discredit her power for not recreating her children clearly didn't watch MoM or Wanda-Vision nor know anything about her character.

If Wanda is so powerful then why didn't she just warp Strange (who's not even planetary) into incapacitation?

You could literally say this about any character.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure she did incapacitate him lol