Poll MCU Quicksilver vs DCEU Wonder Woman: who is faster? (83 votes)
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Obviously Quicksilver. Better travel speed and reaction time, by far.
Quick silver in travel speed but pretty similar reaction time
yep
Quick silver in travel speed but pretty similar reaction time
@marvelanddcfan24 said:
Quick silver in travel speed but pretty similar reaction time
I'd agree with this
Travel speed - Quicksilver.
Combat speed - Maybe Wonder Woman. A case can still be made for Quicksilver.
They're more or less on the same level combat/reaction speed-wise, but Pietro has better travel speed.
@amcu: Diana didn't die when saving a bunch of civillians from a hail of mach 2,6 bullets, QS did.
Also, Quicksilver perceived a HANDGUN bullet in slow motion while in slow motion himself and that's about it. He didn't even move, compared to Diana who not ONLY perceived AR bullets, but moved and casually outsped it and showed superior speed to it. Handgun bullets are subsonic to slightly supersonic compared to mach 2 AR rifles. When comparing the two it's painfully obvious Diana is faster. She not only perceived a bullet twice as fast as Quicksilver's in slow motion and toyed around with it, but she actually moved and outsped it unlike Quicksilver who didn't move in the slightest. Also, Quicksilver's not replicating Diana's museum scene VERY CLEARLY evident by the fact that he failed to do something lesser.
Quicksilver died by something Diana easily replicated. Saying QS is faster is just stupid post-JL. In travel speed, sure, otherwise not so much.
@amcu: Diana didn't die when saving a bunch of civillians from a hail of mach 2,6 bullets, QS did.
As Jedixman said, that is all.
Sure. Because she was focusing on the bullets and Quicksilver was looking in the other direction focusing on the people he was saving. I didn't say that Quicksilver deals with bullets better than Diana which has to do with intelligence and skill. But he is faster.
@amcu: Your comparison actually proved Diana is faster than Quicksilver. I edited that into my post.
One sees a mach 1 (give or take) bullet in slow motion and not moving at all while the other sees a mach 2 (give or take) bullet in slow motion and toying around with it. You can decide who's faster
Besides travel speed, Diana is faster in pretty much every area. WW84 is going to make her even faster based on what Patty said about exploring her speed, and the fact that Cheetah, a character whose mere threat to Wonder Woman is her speed, is the main villain.
Quicksilver died by something Diana easily replicated. Saying QS is faster is just stupid post-JL. In travel speed, sure, otherwise not so much.
To be fair, Pietro doesn't have the same bracelets or the skill to use them to deflect any shots, and I'm pretty sure he was further away from the shot than Diana was. I think he could replicate this reaction showing, in terms of sheer reactions.
Diana has never perceived a bullet the way Quicksilver did in the Avengers tower. Nor has she ever ran as fast as Quicksilver does.
To be fair, the only bullets we've ever seen Diana perceive from her perspective are mach 2+ bullets. The bullet that Quicksilver perceived was what? About Mach 0.9 and would have probably been going slower by the time it got into his sight since it had to pass through glass.
@anthp2000: He was further away from the shot Diana was, but so was the aircraft. The aircraft was like, 60ft away compared to Diana's 10ft.
Also, Quicksilver perceived a HANDGUN bullet in slow motion while in slow motion himself and that's about it. He didn't even move, compared to Diana who not ONLY perceived AR bullets, but moved and casually outsped it and showed superior speed to it. Handgun bullets are subsonic to slightly supersonic compared to mach 2 AR rifles. When comparing the two it's painfully obvious Diana is faster. She not only perceived a bullet twice as fast as Quicksilver's in slow motion and toyed around with it, but she actually moved and outsped it unlike Quicksilver who didn't move in the slightest. Also, Quicksilver's not replicating Diana's museum scene VERY CLEARLY evident by the fact that he failed to do something lesser.
Quicksilver perceived the bullet in slow motion while he was in real time. Diana perceived her bullet in slow motion while she was in slow motion. Infact I think logically that wasn't even her perception time because if it were she would than perceive herself in slow motion. I don't believe that Diana perceives bullets in slow motion at all but simply perceives bullets. There's a very large difference between how they perceive bullets. and I'd say it more than makes up for the difference between the bullet's speed.
And Diana has never ever outspeed a bullet. Period. She has only ever moved slower than them or in one occasion at similar speeds.
Diana has never perceived a bullet the way Quicksilver did in the Avengers tower. Nor has she ever ran as fast as Quicksilver does.
To be fair, the only bullets we've ever seen Diana perceive from her perspective are mach 2+ bullets. The bullet that Quicksilver perceived was what? About Mach 0.9 and would have probably been going slower by the time it got into his sight since it had to pass through glass.
This is true and takes away from Quicksilver's feat to an extent. But he actually perceived his bullet in slow motion while he was in real time. Diana on the other hand was in slow motion and was moving far slower than the bullet.
Diana has never perceived a bullet the way Quicksilver did in the Avengers tower. Nor has she ever ran as fast as Quicksilver does.
To be fair, the only bullets we've ever seen Diana perceive from her perspective are mach 2+ bullets. The bullet that Quicksilver perceived was what? About Mach 0.9 and would have probably been going slower by the time it got into his sight since it had to pass through glass.
This is true and takes away from Quicksilver's feat to an extent. But he actually perceived his bullet in slow motion while he was in real time. Diana on the other hand was in slow motion and was moving far slower than the bullet.
Not here she wasn't. That bullet is between Mach 1.6 - 2.3. In any case, faster than the bullet QS perceived by a good margin.
@amcu: that's literally the first thing she did when she discovered bullets on the island
I think its easy.
For sustained travel speed, I'll go with Quicksilver. I think it's a no brainer.
For combat and reaction speeds, I'll go with Diana. She has much better feats.
If Diana didn’t have her bracers she would have died to the bullets as well. How dumb do people sound when they say that.
Diana obviously pericieves bullets in slow mo considering she was dancing around delfecting shots from an assault riffle for over 10 seconds straight, precisely enough to save a group of civilians.
Why would that mean that she perceives them in slow motion?
It being an automatic rifle doesn't mean nearly as much as many think. Said riffles tend to fire at a rate of around 10-15 bullets per second. For comparison the bullet travels thousands of feet per second and would cover that distance in less than a hundredth of a second. Essentially anyone who is able to block bullets of that speed from that distance shouldn't have too much of a problem with the rate of fire. If you could somehow slow down time to where you could actually see the bullets as automatic firearms fire, than there would be long pauses between each bullet.
There really is nothing to indicate that she is perceiving bullets in slow motion or outpacing them. Infact they clearly show the comparison between a bullet and Diana on multiple occasions and the bullet is always going faster.
In both of the above scenes she is clearly moving slower than the bullets.
The only occasion where she has actually matched a bullet in speed is here.
And the bullet traveled a vast distance before it reached her decreasing it's speed.
I'd personally argue that Diana is very gifted at blocking bullets which shows off her skill. But you don't have to be faster than something to block it after it's fired. At least not unless you have to travel a farther distance to intercept it than it has to travel to reach the area where you intercept it. Diana for each bullet is moving her arms maybe a foot or 2. The bullet on the other hand is moving like 10 feet. I just don't see what about this feat would make it to where she's faster than bullets in any way.
This is a stance I take with all timing feats. You aren't faster than something because you block it unless you have to travel a farther distance to where you will block it than it will.
Did Pietro outpspeed a bullet by your definition, ever?
No. I never said that he outspeed a bullet. I simply denied the idea that Diana has ever done so when she clearly has not. Infact we we see her scenes slowed down it's clear that the bullets are moving faster than her.
For Quicksilver I said that he perceived a bullet in slow motion while he was in real time. Which is true and would indicate that he can outspeed a bullet if he her focused on doing so.
Still seems pretty clear to me that the bullet is moving faster than her. She moves her body and torso a foot or so and the bullet moves a few feet. This is one of her faster scenes but I don't think that shes actually moving faster than the bullet at all.
Quicksilver is actually perceiving the bullet in slow motion while he's in real time.
I want to make a comparison. Lets even assume for a second that Diana is perceiving bullets the way they are slowed down for us and that this is her version of real time. That would mean in her time that a mach 1.6-2.3 bullet travels a number of feet in a second or so. You can count on the video if you want. We see it passing by her at the end of second 2:24 and it reached the wall at 2:25. It's about 1 second for it to cover that entire distance from when we see it near her to the wall.
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Compare that to Quicksilver who's mach 0.9 bullet traveled merely a matter of inches over several seconds.
The disparity is very significant. Quicksilver is dealing with a significantly slower bullet but Diana's traveled a massively farther distance compared to her. The only problem for Quicksilver is that we don't see him actually moving his arms or body around in comparison to his. But judging by his expressions I would assume this is the speed at which he would move like a regular human.
@amcu: that's literally the first thing she did when she discovered bullets on the island
Personally this isn't what I would call outpacing a bullet, matching a bullet, or perceiving a bullet in slow motion.
A very impressive speed showing no doubt. But she's clearly moving slower than the bullet. And she's clearly in slow motion.
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