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#1  Edited By death4bunnies

Please choose one from the options below for both travel and combat.

  • Supersonic (Mach 1.1-2.5)
  • Supersonic+ (Mach 2.5-5)
  • Hypersonic (Mach 5-10)
  • Hypersonic+ (Mach 10-25)
  • High-Hypersonic (Mach 25-50)
  • High-Hypersonic+ (Mach 50-100)
  • Massively Hypersonic (Mach 100-1000)
  • Massively Hypersonic+ (Mach 1000-8810.2)
  • Sub-Relativistic (1-10% of SoL)
  • Relativistic (10-100% of SoL)
  • FTL (1-10x of SoL)
  • FTL+ (10-100x of SoL)
  • Massively FTL (100-1000x of SoL)

Best feats, outliers count.

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Feats.

(Feel free to point out anything I missed or got wrong).

Flys out of atmosphere into space… and then to the sun.

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Shoots at Makkari 4 times before she crosses 100 meters.

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Catches Makkari mid blitz.

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Ill make gifs of him blitzing Druig and deviants and stuff too… and update the gifs with better quality when I get the chance… oh and if anyone has Makkari‘s speed gif please share.

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Traveling to the sun like that is well above FTL.

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Traveling to the sun like that is well above FTL.

How about combat speed?

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Wouldn't him layering Phastos ball things be a speed feat? There were tons of them and he does it in like seconds.

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He is FTL+ Bare minimum in travel speed and probably MHS to MHS+ at a minimum in reaction and in turn combat speed.

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He is FTL+ Bare minimum in travel speed and probably MHS to MHS+ at a minimum in reaction and in turn combat speed.

Can you even prove that framecut happened in seconds ? Cinematic timing <<< real life timing.

Why the hell did he fight on human lvl speeds and used human lvl speed to "tag" Makkari ? It is laughable

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@yunobogoro1: I mean you have no reason there was a time jump. Literally none. There was a single cut and there is no visual evidence of there being a time cut nor is there any evidence after of there being a time jump. The only logical conclusion is that there wasn't one.

Ikaris didn't move at human speeds to tag Makkari. He blitzed forward and caught her blitzing him. Not much to debate their either.

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Ikaris travel speed is really good, his reaction speed is decent but he got blitzed a shit ton of times before he could actually tag makkari

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@yunobogoro1: I mean you have no reason there was a time jump. Literally none. There was a single cut and there is no visual evidence of there being a time cut nor is there any evidence after of there being a time jump. The only logical conclusion is that there wasn't one.

And that is not reason to make pointless assumptions it was happening immediately. Appeal to ignorance is now worst strategy of MCU scalers.

Because character have shown 0 anti-feats yet, i am gonna assume character is capable to perform such feat.

Stop it because that's starting to be cringer and cringer

Ikaris didn't move at human speeds to tag Makkari.

Saw movie and used human tier speed without any slow motion mode ( unlike DCEU Superman vs Flash or CW Flash/Superman fights ).

He blitzed forward

He or she ? I know Makkari is race, gender and physical health swapped character compared to comics but are you talking about Makkari or Ikaris ?

and caught her blitzing him.

Woow he constatnly struggled to react for every movement of her, but somehow uses fist and Makkari goes down ( at human tier speed )

Not much to debate their either.

Yes it is

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@yunobogoro1:

@alphamon said:

Ikaris travel speed is really good, his reaction speed is decent but he got blitzed a shit ton of times before he could actually tag makkari

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What do you think about him being able to shoot 4 times before she crosses this distance.. that’s pretty good right?

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@death4bunnies: good for combat speed I guess but it still took awhile for him to actually tag her

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That's not tagging, come on. He got hit so many times before 'reacting' and makkari obviously wasn't going as fast as she was when she was running to rio, we have a third person perspective proving this

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@yunobogoro1: Your post doesn't make sense. You are the one making the assumption not me. I am just using the time frame shown on screen. You are the one assuming there is a time skip. You are the one that has to provide evidence that there was a time skip which you haven't done.

And all you have to do is watch the fight between Makkari and Ikaris and it is obvious that after getting blitzed initially he recovers and blitzes forward and grabs her. Watch the scene and it is clearly not at human speed.

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the copium saga continues i see

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#20  Edited By J_Normal

FTzl travel

Hypersonic reaction. Honestly no reason for Makari to be holding back her speed in a life or death struggle .

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Copium since IW and Endgame to WhatIf…?, now to Eternals.

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Travel - MFTL.

Combat/Perception/Reaction - Sub-Rel.

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FTL+

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@mandabub said:

Travel - MFTL.

Combat/Perception/Reaction - Sub-Rel.

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@mandabub said:

Travel - MFTL.

Combat/Perception/Reaction - Sub-Rel.

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@yunobogoro1: Your post doesn't make sense.

Rather your has no sense

You are the one making the assumption not me. I am just using the time frame shown on screen.

And you are assuming the time frame is a instant feat what is wrong.

You are the one assuming there is a time skip.

You are the one that has to provide evidence that there was a time skip which you haven't done.

Hae you heard of something called "Ignorance fallacy" or "Appeal to ignorance" ? Weakness of comicvine users where you are assuming power level of character granting it credits where you have no proof character can perform it or not.

I know CV rules are dogshit now, but if character is unknown to perform a feat, we assume it cannot.

I can assume MCU Thor can no sell Wanda's hex reality rewrite, because Thor hasn't shown any feats yet proving he is weak to reality warp ( knowing Thor never was shown how he handles reality warping ). You can try your best to debunk me and "fail" because no proof Thor cannot resist it, but at the same time i cannot find proof Thor can resist reality warp hex.

We have a deadlock now. This is Appeal to ignorance, one of worst fallacies used in VS battles

And all you have to do is watch the fight between Makkari and Ikaris and it is obvious that after getting blitzed initially he recovers and blitzes forward and grabs her. Watch the scene and it is clearly not at human speed.

Seen the scene and this was human speed, just random punch and Makkari is done.

I know that people cope hard when they realise Marvel speedsters are as same pathethic jobbers as DC or Anime Speedsters unfortunately. Same Makkari got tagged by human lvl speed Kro.

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Travel - MFTL.

Combat/Perception/Reaction - Sub-Rel.

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@mandabub said:

Travel - MFTL.

Combat/Perception/Reaction - Sub-Rel.

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#32 KrisBishop  Moderator

@ecoblitz: Keeping up with and tagging Makkari, mainly.

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FTL++

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@mandabub said:

Travel - MFTL.

Combat/Perception/Reaction - Sub-Rel.

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@krisbishop: oh wait I’m an idiot I forgot mach 13k is around sub rel

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I'm questioning why people are saying Ikaris is MFTL in travel speed? It was put at 42x the SOL, which is FTL, not MFTL. Relativistic in combat speed isn't right, because we can't assume Makkari is moving at full speed all of the time.

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I'm questioning why people are saying Ikaris is MFTL in travel speed? It was put at 42x the SOL, which is FTL, not MFTL. Relativistic in combat speed isn't right, because we can't assume Makkari is moving at full speed all of the time.

She ran round the world pretty casually, and in her fight with ikaris it was life or death and the world was on the line; I don’t know why she’d be running much slower.

Plus he shot at her 4 times before she ran 100 meters, that’s got to be pretty good right?

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@death4bunnies said:

@graysonblake said:

I'm questioning why people are saying Ikaris is MFTL in travel speed? It was put at 42x the SOL, which is FTL, not MFTL. Relativistic in combat speed isn't right, because we can't assume Makkari is moving at full speed all of the time.

She ran round the world pretty casually, and in her fight with ikaris it was life or death and the world was on the line; I don’t know why she’d be running much slower.

Plus he shot at her 4 times before she ran 100 meters, that’s got to be pretty good right?

It wasn't relativistic, though logically it would seem she would be going full speed. I mean, we could apply this to a lot of situations then.

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@graysonblake: not really. One was casual the other was life or death. Rest

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@ecoblitz said:

@graysonblake: not really. One was casual the other was life or death. Rest

Then DCEU Flash went LS against DCEU Superman in JL/SC, and Carol always is flying at FTL speeds, etc

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@ecoblitz said:

@graysonblake: not really. One was casual the other was life or death. Rest

Then DCEU Flash went LS against DCEU Superman in JL/SC, and Carol always is flying at FTL speeds, etc

Flash has a rule about it….Makkri has no such rule.

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#46 Morghulis  Online

@death4bunnies said:

@graysonblake said:

@ecoblitz said:

@graysonblake: not really. One was casual the other was life or death. Rest

Then DCEU Flash went LS against DCEU Superman in JL/SC, and Carol always is flying at FTL speeds, etc

Flash has a rule about it….Makkri has no such rule.

Makkari isn't LS though, as much as I love her, she's not

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@death4bunnies said:

@graysonblake said:

@ecoblitz said:

@graysonblake: not really. One was casual the other was life or death. Rest

Then DCEU Flash went LS against DCEU Superman in JL/SC, and Carol always is flying at FTL speeds, etc

Flash has a rule about it….Makkri has no such rule.

Makkari isn't LS though, as much as I love her, she's not

Im saying Flash has a rule about going his fastest.. Makkari does not.. so we can say her casual speed running around the world is fair to equate to her speed here.

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He shot 4 times before she ran like 100 meters, you don’t think that’s good?

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@death4bunnies: No, though. We can't assume she's always going top speed. Are you saying that she went Mach 9,200+ and Thena reacted? And plus, do you see those rocks falling as she runs?

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@death4bunnies: No, though. We can't assume she's always going top speed. Are you saying that she went Mach 9,200+ and Thena reacted? And plus, do you see those rocks falling as she runs?

Oh we are looking at the rocks falling? That’s funny stuff falls when SC flash runs, I guess that he’s sub gravity speed?

And yes I can fairly say she went he casual running speed when fighting for the world..yes to Thena too.

Seems like your just refusing to accept feats.

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@death4bunnies said:

@graysonblake said:

@death4bunnies: No, though. We can't assume she's always going top speed. Are you saying that she went Mach 9,200+ and Thena reacted? And plus, do you see those rocks falling as she runs?

Oh we are looking at the rocks falling? That’s funny stuff falls when SC flash runs, I guess that he’s sub gravity speed?

And yes I can fairly say she went he casual running speed when fighting for the world..yes to Thena too.

Seems like your just refusing to accept feats.

1. Well, yes. And when Flash does run, there have been two occasions where everything was in slow motion: His fight with Superman, since the monument he punched, was frozen after he struck it, and then when he reversed time.

2. Lmao at relativistic Thena though, we're done here

3. I'm not refusing anything, I'm being real and pointing out something because of your claims