MCU: Fat Thor is actually Prime Thor

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#1 Edited by Subline (9522 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Edited by NWName (5435 posts) - - Show Bio

Wankers destroyed epic style. Muh Prime Thor is the strongest Avenger!!

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#3 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks like DCEU Superman absolutely throttles mcu thor now lmao. If that's his prime, just lol.

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#4 Posted by FinalKingThanos (3203 posts) - - Show Bio

Said from the start IW = EG but now he wields both hammers hopefully the lowball or EG and highball of IW can balance out now.

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#5 Posted by IAmTheLaw (930 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean, this is obvious, but people are big Thor fans and didn't want to admit it.

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#6 Posted by MattyBoi (2829 posts) - - Show Bio

@subline said:

As you know the Russo's are currently hosting a Reddit AMA, and in response to a redditor's question about Thor's power level this was what Anthony had to say.

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IIRC The russos stated that pre EG thor could've survived the snap(or had a better chance to), while fat thor had no chance.

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#7 Posted by nfactor1995 (13457 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe it’s talking mental/emotional strength lol. The feats, in-universe circumstances, and plain logic certainly don’t show EG Thor to be his prime.

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#8 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

Image result for thor vs any speedster gif

Poor fat thor :(.

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#10 Posted by StormShadow_X (17513 posts) - - Show Bio

And now I wait lol

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#11 Posted by ProfessorRespect (8806 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously a case of Death of the Author

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#12 Posted by Namebk (1802 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard to believe since he got one shotted by a headbutt from Thanos.

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#13 Posted by LichVanAstrea (1926 posts) - - Show Bio

This still won't stop the lowball for Thor.

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#14 Edited by Oreoghoul (2607 posts) - - Show Bio

Welp, I’m confirmed wrong. I don’t see how an out-of-shape and depressed Thor is stronger than IW Thor but whatever, they said it.

EDIT: thought about it and Feats > WoG

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#15 Posted by ProfessorRespect (8806 posts) - - Show Bio

@oreoghoul: That's why Death of the Author exists as a concept lol, feats matter more than casual statements

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#17 Posted by LichVanAstrea (1926 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: I don't see how that would stop Thor wank to begin with.

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#18 Posted by Oreoghoul (2607 posts) - - Show Bio

@professorrespect: yeah you’re right. Bit of an overreaction on my end since they were so direct with it.

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#19 Posted by arqe (983 posts) - - Show Bio

Their statements means nothing, just compile them together and see almost all of their "statements" contradict each other.

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#20 Posted by Wot_m8 (2352 posts) - - Show Bio

Nein.

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#21 Edited by Mike_Fowler (5389 posts) - - Show Bio

@mattyboi: from what I remember, that was due moreso to the mental state that Thor was in when he wanted to use the gauntlet

For this, if anything, it proves that Thor’s main problem really was more so mental than anything. Hell, that seems to correspond with the fact that Thor was originally meant to have his body be “back to normal” by the end of endgame

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#22 Posted by rogueshadow (29594 posts) - - Show Bio

I figured this was the case once it was said that they were originally gonna have him become ripped again when he fought Thanos but Hemsworth wanted him to remain that size.

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#23 Posted by darthvaderrocks (2968 posts) - - Show Bio

This makes Thanos demolishing Thor all that much funnier.

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#24 Posted by ANTHP2000 (31037 posts) - - Show Bio

RIP xZone

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#25 Posted by darthvaderrocks (2968 posts) - - Show Bio

@rogueshadow: Not to mention there's even BTS footage of fat Thor doing backflips, so he was never meant to be weaker physically in the eyes of the Russo's and everyone else involved.

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#26 Posted by MattyBoi (2829 posts) - - Show Bio

@mattyboi: from what I remember, that was due moreso to the mental state that Thor was in when he wanted to use the gauntlet

For this, if anything, it proves that Thor’s main problem really was more so mental than anything. Hell, that seems to correspond with the fact that Thor was originally meant to have his body be “back to normal” by the end of endgame

I dont think mental state has anything to do with it.(tho that would explain how iron man was uneffected by the power)

They also referred to his physical shape. Agreed.

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#27 Posted by TakenStew22 (5815 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks like Fat Thor is stronger than IW Thor now lmao.

Though this could fall into death of the author.

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#28 Posted by godzilla44 (7940 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by TakenStew22 (5815 posts) - - Show Bio

Atleast this makes Thanos kicking his ass look more impressive I guess.

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#30 Posted by deactivated-5d731ee5de2e9 (8670 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean 'prime thor' never did anything fat thor didn't do. Both lost to thanos with the same amount of damage and killed some fodder

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#31 Posted by NWName (5435 posts) - - Show Bio

@DammeFavour: Prime Thor is Universe level! He ovepowered full IG. Fat Thor is rock level.

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#32 Edited by MAZAHS117 (13605 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah but melted ice cream tho

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#33 Posted by deactivated-5d731ee5de2e9 (8670 posts) - - Show Bio
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#34 Posted by CocaColaMan (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

1. That makes no sense.

2. If so, it just means Thor in his fat self gets his IW feats. Not sure how this messes anything up.

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#35 Posted by Subline (9522 posts) - - Show Bio

1. That makes no sense.

2. If so, it just means Thor in his fat self gets his IW feats. Not sure how this messes anything up.

A lot of people seem to think that IW Thor beats Thanos, this statement just confirms that he doesn't since Prime / EG Thor couldn't.

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#36 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

1. That makes no sense.

2. If so, it just means Thor in his fat self gets his IW feats. Not sure how this messes anything up.

It messes a ton of things up. Thor's speed was terribly slow in endgame, his lighting cloak was practically non-existent, and Thanos absolutely throttled him. Considering a lot of people on this site think "Prime" Thor can beat Thanos, this changes everything.

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#37 Posted by Namebk (1802 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: It doesn't change anything because he never used any abilities. Worthy Cap performed better than Thor so with this statement he is far above Thor.

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#38 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk said:

It doesn't change anything because he never used any abilities. Worthy Cap performed better than Thor so with this statement he is far above Thor.

Worthy cap literally had all of his blows tanked by thanos and then got absolutely curbed once Thanos took him seriously. That showing is over-rated as hell. And also, the lightning cloak is supposed to be an automatic ability, not sure why "Prime" thor wouldn't have it on unless something happened to him.

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#39 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (8218 posts) - - Show Bio

This makes Thor look really bad then

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#40 Posted by CocaColaMan (1706 posts) - - Show Bio
@kalkent said:
@cocacolaman said:

1. That makes no sense.

2. If so, it just means Thor in his fat self gets his IW feats. Not sure how this messes anything up.

It messes a ton of things up. Thor's speed was terribly slow in endgame, his lighting cloak was practically non-existent, and Thanos absolutely throttled him. Considering a lot of people on this site think "Prime" Thor can beat Thanos, this changes everything.

If Thor was in his prime, him looking slow means nothing. This is an incredibly consistent trope throughout the MCU. Him not wanting to use his lightning cloak means pretty much nothing, especially when the only time he's in a position to use it effectively, the Battle of Earth, he's off screen for the most part. And for the Thanos thing, you and @subline are right, this does change that. But I still have incredibly serious doubts here. Using WOG all the time doesn't work out well, or Superman can tank 300 db and MCU high tiers are million-billion tonners.

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#41 Posted by Namebk (1802 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: Thanos was taking him seriously he just couldn't do anything against Cap. It's not just his lightning cloak but his other lightning abilities and he never even spun Mjolnir.

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#42 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk said:

Thanos was taking him seriously he just couldn't do anything against Cap. It's not just his lightning cloak but his other lightning abilities and he never even spun Mjolnir.

He got caught off guard from a mjolinir throw from behind. Then cap hits him with a few combos and a bit of lightning. As soon as thanos gets his sword back, he completely wrecks him and could have killed him quite easily.

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#43 Posted by Namebk (1802 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: He had his sword the entire time.

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#44 Posted by darthvaderrocks (2968 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk: Uh no he didn't. Thanos dropped his sword when he got hit from behind by the shockwave Mjolnir created on Cap's shield. He didn't have his sword the entire time Cap performed those combos and his lighting. He only got it once he slammed Cap to the ground and kicked his sword up as it was lying down.

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#46 Posted by darthvaderrocks (2968 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk: You said he had his sword the entire time which he didn't.

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#47 Posted by Namebk (1802 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: He started the fight with his sword in his hand and it was knocked out because he got hit by Cap. Is Cap supposed to let him pick it up lol?

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#49 Posted by Namebk (1802 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: It's not like he started the fight without it or I wouldn't have mentioned it.

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#50 Edited by darthvaderrocks (2968 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk: No but you did say he had it the entire time which is correct.

Edit: Incorrect lol