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@starsprime3: they also got melted by Mandarin so it might be an outlier for that armor

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@kryptonianking88: Its composite all feats apply, including Iron man and Iron Monger hitting hard enough to shatter glass for miles.

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@starsprime3: Iron Monger and Iron Man are equal to DCEU Superman....

that too a weaker noob iron man. LOL I love this thread

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@kryptonianking88: Its composite all feats apply, including Iron man and Iron Monger hitting hard enough to shatter glass for miles.

that's not canon right?

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#55  Edited By Starsprime3

@darkthunder: @joker567892: @kryptonianking88:

Tony says that he thought at first Melter's ray was just intense heat but then he realized that it works by loosening the bonds of the molecules of bon-organic matter. So, I think it is supposed to be better than just melting.

But then I googled the relationship between the molecules and somethig melting and this came up:

"When energy is added in the form of heat, the water molecules begin to get excited and move around. As more and more heat is added, the molecules move faster and faster, causing the structure of the molecules to loosen. ... You see this in the form of solid ice turning to liquid water, or what we know as melting."

(From wonderopolis.org).

So, it seems it's basically the same thing as melting anyway? But the above text describes ice, while Melter was melting metals, could it be different?

Also, DarkThunder, shattering glass for miles comes from Iron Monger toy bio, so I doubt it.

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@darkthunder: @joker567892: @kryptonianking88:

Tony says that he thought at first Melter's ray was just intense heat but then he realized that it works by loosening the bonds of the molecules of bon-organic matter. So, I think it is supposed to be better than just melting.

But then I googled the relationship between the molecules and somethig melting and this came up:

"When energy is added in the form of heat, the water molecules begin to get excited and move around. As more and more heat is added, the molecules move faster and faster, causing the structure of the molecules to loosen. ... You see this in the form of solid ice turning to liquid water, or what we know as melting."

(From wonderopolis.org).

So, it seems it's basically the same thing as melting anyway? But the above text describes ice, while Melter was melting metals, could it be different?

It's not much different than melting. Heat does the same thing, the ray seems special because it does that without using much heat, I guess. If I am not wrong, I can loosen the bonding forces of some molecules in my home by boiling some water. Melter says that "his ray can affect other metals, but can't affect Iron Man" because the bonding forces are too strong b/w the molecules of the metal/alloy the suit is made up of, in simpler words, it is too durable and Melter needs to upgrade his rays.

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@kryptonianking88: @joker567892: @darkthunder: @tonystark6999: @RajjarsAlt:

In Contest of Champions, Silver Surfer can tank being close to the big bang of battlerealm:

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In special attacks, he can star bust:

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In a special event, Reed Richards decides to summon Galactus to destroy the Battleworld planet but some champions are against it. IW Iron Man and Netflix Daredevil (even though Daredevil is street level) are one of them.

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IW Iron Man is the final boss of act two of this event. The group IW Iron Man opposes includes Silver Surfer. So, maybe he scales to SS? Unless SS is just oneshotting them all story-wise, which doesn't seem to be implied.

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#60  Edited By RajjarsAlt

tbh we can just call it a day with the stuff from Incredible Hulk.

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In the Lygaverse, the Mind Stone is confirmed to be capable of galaxy level TP and Thanos deliberately seeks out uru because it is strong enough to protect him from the power of the Infinity Stones.

That said, cross-apply to Stormbreaker.

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@rajjarsalt: What do you mean call it a day with Incredible Hulk? As in feats higher than that is ridicilous to take into account?

I don't understand how galaxy level TP apply to Uru tho? I mean, that doesn't sound combat applicable, unless you miswrote.

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#66  Edited By RajjarsAlt
@starsprime3 said:

@rajjarsalt: What do you mean call it a day with Incredible Hulk? As in feats higher than that is ridicilous to take into account?

I don't understand how galaxy level TP apply to Uru tho? I mean, that doesn't sound combat applicable, unless you miswrote.

No like that stuff is that good because it's supported by both VFX and Feige himself.

for tp and uru I meant those as separate things.

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@rajjarsalt: is that canon? I heard he loses to some random alien in that

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@rajjarsalt: This thread is about composite feats tho, canon or otherwise.

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#69  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@kryptonianking88 said:

@rajjarsalt: is that canon? I heard he loses to some random alien in that

He did nearly lose to Yrsa the Goddess of CQC tho this can all be attributed to him being young and stuff. He still got physically strong enough to the point where he could say "I am beating the Hulk to death."

It's no longer canon tho

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@Lilbroomstick:

Do you think IW IM scales to Silver Surfer in Contest of Champions? I posted the videos a few posts above.

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#71  Edited By Lilbroomstick

@starsprime3 said:

@Lilbroomstick:

Do you think IW IM scales to Silver Surfer in Contest of Champions? I posted the videos a few posts above.

IW Iron Man is a S tier in that game IIRC so yes

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Does anyone have the Incredible Hulk Novelization?

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#74  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@joker567892 said:

@rajjarsalt: What did Feige say?

confirmed ross's words about the military being unable to put down abomination. He talks specifically about what goes on with bruce in that scene where he and ross are talking, too.

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@starsprime3 said:

@Lilbroomstick:

Do you think IW IM scales to Silver Surfer in Contest of Champions? I posted the videos a few posts above.

IW Iron Man is a S tier in that game IIRC so yes

IW IM is nice but Spark is GOAT and SL is GOATer

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This thread is a nonsense.

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@rajjarsalt: You got the sauce?

Yeah I gotchu

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The VFX person (in same vid) that aligns with Feige is a lead who actually worked on Hulk while he was fighting.

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@rajjarsalt: meh, the military at that time couldn’t do anything about him since calling in drone strikes, missiles, etc would take too long before Abomination wrecked the city block. Hulk was the more immediate solution

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#81  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@kryptonianking88 said:

@rajjarsalt: meh, the military at that time couldn’t do anything about him since calling in drone strikes, missiles, etc would take too long before Abomination wrecked the city block. Hulk was the more immediate solution

Except it mention the bombs, and how big Ross's bomb would need to be, and how it wouldn't be enough and only Bruce could put him down.

Abom ate an RPG and there was an A-10 on standby too from my first scans. Like Feige's stuff isn't a standalone, the VFX lead says that a bomb isn't gonna win the fight and they both need to be contextualized to the scans I posted.

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@rajjarsalt: What part of the video does he mention the bombs?

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@rajjarsalt: What part of the video does he mention the bombs?

Oh the "bomb" isn't Feige that's the VFX lead later on like 5 minutes in. Though the bombing is also mentioned in my scans which is what Feige is talking about.

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#85  Edited By Joker567892

@rajjarsalt: She says "Abom" which probably means Abomination, not a bomb.

Edit: Also what scans?

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#87  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@joker567892 said:

@rajjarsalt: She says "Abom" which probably means Abomination, not a bomb.

Edit: Also what scans?

Well she always uses Abomination's full name. Like in that specific scene Abom just spits a tooth out, says, "Is that all you got" and then wrecks Hulk with a single blow. But yeah, I'll concede.

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My bad. I posted the scans in another thread like this but I forgot to put them here. I'll go get them.

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#88  Edited By Sonath

@starsprime3 said:

@sonath: Why do you think so?

The feats from the comics or videogames shouldn't apply, they are just too inconsistent with the powers showed on screen.

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@sonath: Its inconsistent because it's non canon lol.

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#90  Edited By Sonath

@joker567892: I'm pretty sure that the comics are canon.Don't know about the videogames.

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#91  Edited By Starsprime3

@sonath: Comics that have red stamps on their cover are canon, others are just "inspired". This was confirmed on Twitter by the editor and the writer of some of the comics. Coming of the Melter is non-canon.

This is composite feats. Composite IM, based on this thread, is someone who can make shockwaves that can break windows for miles around from his punches, survive almost point blank energy explosions that can shake a mile (or a few kilometers) or two of an area and might even scale to star-big bang level video game Silver Surfer.

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@sonath: Comics that have red stamps on their cover are canon, others are just "inspired". This was confirmed on Twitter by the editor and the writer of some of the comics. Coming of the Melter is non-canon.

This is composite feats. Composite IM, based on this thread, is someone who can make shockwaves that can break windows for miles around from his punches, survive almost point blank energy explosions that can shake a mile (or a few kilometers) or two of an area and might even scale to star-big bang level video game Silver Surfer.

Well, if it can't be applied to mainstream battles it's a bit absurd, but if you enjoy it, it's not less absurd than the rest.

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@sonath: Well one could argue that it is usable if one makes a composite IM vs battle.

But yes it is an enjoyable thread to me.

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@starsprime3: Cool then.Haven't seen any composite IM battle yet tho.

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@sonath: I made one back in the day with DCEU Superman vs IM.

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Quicksilver was said to be Lightning fast.

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