Massive Power Tier List(MCU, DCEU and More)

Introduction

Catacters are ordered by power from top to bottom.

In my own list I have also listed the teams(for ex. I put MCU Phase 1 Avengers just below Thanos, or FOX F4 just below EG Ant-Man. And that with every single team. However, I preferred to exclude that because it's probably a bit too much(like if it already wasn't)

I also excluded manga and anime characters as I have to read more and it's probably very out of order yet.

I post this because I wanna improve it so let me know your thoughts.

The List

Skyfather Tier

MCU Dormmamu

MCU IG Users

MCU Eternal Flame Surtur

Teambuster Tier

DCEU JL Superman

MCU Doctor Strange(with the Eye of Agamotto)

DCEU Doomsday(Post-Nuke)

MCU Ego

Herald Tier

MGR Raiden(with VT7 HF Blade)

MCU Doctor Strange

MGR Senator Armstrong

MGR Raiden(Final Body)

DCEU Superman

DCEU Zod

DCEU Doomsday(Pre-Nuke)

FOX Silver Surfer

MGR Monsoon

MCU Ancient One

MGR Sam

MGR Sundowner

MGR Mistral

MGR Raiden (Pre-Final Body)

DCEU Steppenwolf

DCEU God Mode Wonder Woman

DCEU Ares

Powerhouse Tier

MCU Hela

DCEU Aquaman(Underwater)

DCEU Wonder Woman

DCEU King Orm(Underwater)

Blade Wolf

MCU Thanos(With Gear)

DCEU Faora

MCU Endgame Thor

MCU IW Thor

MCU Ronan(With Power Stone)

DCEU Nam-Ek

MCU Captain Marvel

FOX Jonny Storm(with F4 Powers)

MCU Thanos

FOX Doctor Doom(with SS board)

MCU Phase 3 Scarlet Witch

MCU EG Ant-Man

High Tier

MCU Ragnarok Hulk(With Gear)

MCU Malekith(with Aether)

MCU Ragnarok Hulk

MCU Fenris

MCU Hulkbuster(with Veronica)

MCU Pre-Ragnarok Hulk

MCU Abomination

MCU Kurse

MCU Hulkbuster(Mark XLIV)

Ang Lee Hulk

DCEU Doctor Sivana

DCEU Shazam

Nurarihyon

FOX Doctor Doom(Reboot)

MCU Iron Man(Mark LXXXV)

MCU Iron Man(Mark L)

MCU Rescue(Mark XLIX)

MCU Vision

MCU Ultron(Vibranium)

MCU Ragnarok Thor

Mid-High Tier

MCU Phase 1/2 Thor

MCU Professor Hulk

Brandon Breyer

MCU Hulkbuster(Mark XLVIII)

DCEU Mera(Underwater)

MCU War Machine(Mark VI)

MCU Surtur

MCU Cull Obsidian

DCEU Cyborg

MCU Destroyer

DCEU Flash

Mid-Tier

Mister Negative(PS4)

MCU War Machine(Mark V)

MCU War Machine(Mark IV)

FOX Thing(Reboot)

MCU Iron Man(Mark XLV)

MCU Iron Man(Mark XLIII)

FOX Human Torch

MCU Iron Man Mark VII

TASM Electro

MCU Mysterio

FOX Human Torch(Reboot)

FOX Invisible Woman

FOX Invisible Woman(Reboot)

Sony Riot

FOX Mister Fantastic

Spider-Man(Anti-Ock suit) (PS4)

MCU Iron Spider

MCU Kaecilius

Spider-Man(PS4)

Electro(PS4)

FOX Negasonic Teenage Warhead

MCU Ebony Maw

Phase 2 Scarlet Witch

MCU Rocket Racoon

MCU Wong

MCU Valkyrie(with pegasus)

DCEU Aquaman(On land)

DCEU King Orm(On land)

FOX Doctor Doom

MCU Valkyrie

FOX Juggernaut

Alita

Unarmed MCU Pre-Ragnarok Thor

MCU Yellowjacket

Sony Venom

FOX Colossus

A-Train(TV)

Raimi Venom

MCU Ronan the Accuser

FOX Angel Dust

DCEU Enchantress

Mid-Low Tier

Raimi Black Suit Spider-Man

FOX Thing

MCU Iron Man Mark VI

Raimi Spider-Man

TASM Spider-Man

MCU Quicksilver

MCU Spider-Man

Loki(with Scepter)

Rhino(PS4)

MCU Whiplash Mark II

MCU Ant-Man(Civil War)

MCU War Machine(Mark III)

MCU Iron Man(Mark XLVI)

MCU War Machine(Mark II)

DCEU Firegod Diablo

MCU Yondu

MCU Yon-Rogg

Shocker(PS4)

MCU Wasp

MCU Star-Lord

DCEU Incubus

MCU Heimdall

FOX Mister Fantastic(Reboot)

MCU Ant-Man(First Movie)

Scorpion(PS4)

MCU Loki

MCU Mantis

MCU Frigga

MCU War Machine(Mark I)

MCU Iron Man(Mark IV)

MCU Iron Man(Mark III)

MCU Lady Sif

MCU Malekith

MCU Groot

DCEU Queen Atlanna

MCU Black Panther(Nanotech Suit)

MCU Killmonger

DCEU Black Manta

MCU Captain America(with Mjolnir)

MCU Ultron(Titanium)

Vulture(PS4)

FOX Deadpool

MCU Vulture

MCU Mera(On land)

MCU Aldrich Killian

Street-Levels

Raimi New Goblin

Raimi Green Goblin

FOX Cable

MCU Iron Monger

TASM Lizard

MCU Korg

MCU Ghost

TASM Green Goblin

MCU Drax

MCU Iron Man Mark II

MCU Black Panther(First Suit)

MCU Gamora

MCU Nebula

MCU Phase 2 Captain America

Tombstone(PS4)

MCU Winter Soldier(Brainwashed)

MCU Blonsky(Second Injection)

MCU Falcon(New Suit)

Rita Vrataski

William Cage

MCU IW Bucky

MCU Blonsky(First injection)

MCU Teenage Groot

MCU Falcon(Old Suit)

MCU Phase 1 Captain America

MCU Iron Man Mark V

DCEU Deadshot

DCEU Antiope

DCEU Armored Iron Man

DCEU Batman

MCU Hawkeye

MCU Black Widow

DCEU El Diablo

John Wick

MCU Red Skull

Doctor Octopus(PS4)

FOX Firefist

MCU Proxima Midnight

DCEU Harley Quinn

MCU Corvus Glaive

DCEU Killer Croc

MCU Iron Man Mark I

MCU Shuri

Kingpin(PS4)

DCEU Hypolita

FOX Ajax

MCU IW Captain America

MCU Okoye

MCU Whiplash Mark I

MCU M'Baku

DCEU Katana

MCU Shocker

MCU Crossbones

Nolan Bane

Nolan Batman

Nolan Catwoman

MCU Batroc

DCEU Captain Boomerang

I can’t speak for MGS, but that MCU/DCEU ordering... where do I even begin?

I’ll list some of the most obvious ones:

Superman and Doomsday being above Ego

Base Thanos being below any Thor

Nanosuit Iron Man being below f*cking Sivana

Mjolnir Cap being below Killmonger (wtf?)

Not a battle. LA guys need to learn to read before posting these.

Also, Steppenwolf being in the same tier with Silver Surfer.

@hulk_like_fire: yeah this list is something else. There’s also IW Cap being below Phase 1 Cap, Cyborg being above the Destroyer, PS4 Kingpin being below Black Widow

@kryptonianking88: lmao

I have to say I heavily disagree with a lot of this ordering. It’s also pretty random to include MGR characters in this list which is primarily comicbook based.

He wasn't that impressive to me. He didn't have durability feats and he was protecting from the maelstrom of rubble so I guess his durability is not that great. Also neither him or Doctor Doom showed a great offensive power and why would DD be holding back?

Then, Steppenwolf should just be that high by scaling to Ares and Diana.

IW Cap can't protect very well from bullets and he is obligated to fight melee due to those shields. Any guy with a pistol would one-shot him.

Destroyer lacks versatility, that's why I put him there.I think they are in close power levels and in a list that big it's impossible to be exact.

Imaginte a fight between Kingpin and Black Widow. The fight starts, BW shoots. End of the fight. That's why characters with human piercing durability and no long distance weapons seem stupid to me.

@the_hajduk: It can be curious to some people. Anyway, in my own list I'm including even more characters.

Definitely the wrong board. Gen discussion is better for something like this.

lol at any guy with a pistol one shotting IW Cap

@danii79: There's a lot I disagree with, but uhh cool list nonetheless. You also posted this on the wrong board.

Changed

Why not? Like imagine a guy with good accuracy. Or 3 random policemen if you want. Starting at 25 feet.

Thor can harm many characters and even one-shot easily with the Stormbreaker. That's by I put him above.

True. Thor is more powerful. Thanos just counters him by pure stats, which makes his placement a little strange. By that same logic, Sword Thanos should be below Thor since he's much less versatile without flight, lightning, etc.

Sivana was kinda powerful, wasn't him? I mean, IIRC he is faster than Tony, he was punching Shazam through skyscrapers and their punche were quite powerful.

His best feat was shaking a mall against Shazam. Hulk shook an entire city block and Iron Man hits harder than him.

I just don't think he has Thor starts. He can be killed by a bullet

He does. Thanos was KOing him through the shield pre-Mjolnir then he started tanking direct hits after Mjolnir. Even then, he has a godly weapon capable of channeling lightning so he should be above Killmonger even without Thor's stats.

IW Cap can't protect very well from bullets and he is obligated to fight melee due to those shields. Any guy with a pistol would one-shot him.

IW Cap has years of experience, more skill, more strength, and speed to make up for the slight loss of protection.

Destroyer lacks versatility, that's why I put him there.I think they are in close power levels and in a list that big it's impossible to be exact.

Destroyer would beat him and Cyborg's versatility isn't even that powerful, so he's beat either way. They shouldn't even be in the same tier.

Imaginte a fight between Kingpin and Black Widow. The fight starts, BW shoots. End of the fight. That's why characters with human piercing durability and no long distance weapons seem stupid to me.

Fights are rarely that simple. Kingpin's fast enough to tangle with PS4 Spidey, a casual rocket timer and aim dodger, so if she tries to shoot him he'll try and dodge.

I don't think Iron Man physicals are that high.

Neither are Shazam's. The guy struggled to hold up a 15 ton bus, which is only marginally better than what Iron Man was doing in his first film at 20% power

I think that if Cap would have gained Thor starts it would have been more obvious in the film. Also, I repeat, some guys with pistol would kill him easily if we take the enhanced stats out.

Maybe, but the implications there. Pre-Mjolnir, they made sure to show that every hit Thanos landed on Cap was blocked.

What's your point about the pistol? You could one shot comic Wonder Woman with a hunting rifle, is she below MCU Luke Cage? And He's still more powerful than Killmonger. One blast of lightning and he's fried, and he can destroy large buildings with lightning blasts so he's more powerful.

Yeah but 4 ganster with pistols would kill them regardless of any experience or strength because those shields worked agains the outriders, but against a real life humans army using those shields would be stupid and he will die soon.

That's what skill and speed is for. Super soldiers are low end bullet timers or very adept aim dodgers. Bucky has even been able to block bullets after they were fired with his thinner metal arm

He is durable enough to tank heat vision and Steppen's axe. He also bothered Superman and knocked Steppen back. Also he has flight, has intelligence(a lot actually), can hack almost everything. I just would prefer him in my team rather than Destroyer. But it's true that in many cases Destroyer can be harder to beat.

Cyborg is more useful (especially with prep) but that doesn't translate to power. Iron Man would be pretty high on this list due to super intelligence too, being able to time travel and kill his opponents as babies, summon Jericho missiles, or hack nukes.

I think she has enough accuracy to shot a big fat man. He is not a bullet timer to avoid anything.

Depends on the distance/environment, but Kingpin is overall more powerful and better for fighting anyone but a firing squad.

This punch alone is above what Iron Man can do.

1. He did that with momentum

2. Iron Man has better non-scaling feats way back in 2008

Wonder Woman is a casual bullet timer. She would block it. Also she is a exception, you can't find many non-bulletproof high tiers.

And Cap would block it or aim dodge. I still don't see how it's relevant to power levels. Do you think Killmonger would do better against Thanos?

He didn't showed any reaction speed. They just shot his arm. That scene is just stupid. Also all the bullets went to his arm. Bs.

He clearly did. The guy was aiming for his head/chest and he blocked it with his arm. You can even hear the shots fire and then hit his arm, so it's not even a case of cinematic timing. They all went into his arm because it was one guy firing center mass.

I have to agree with you. Where would you exactly place Cyborg and Destroyer then?

In a standard battle setting, Destroyer should be solidly above Cyborg since it's able to disintegrate superhuman Frost Giants and tank Mjolnir. With prep, Cyborg should be above Supes since he can hack the nuclear arsenal

I prefer to think about their powers in real life. Anyway, where would you place Kingpin?

Same tier but on the higher end. Widow can beat him but needs a lot of distance and a favorable environment.

I have a feeling that Invisible Woman should be higher...

@kryptonianking88 said:

This punch alone is above what Iron Man can do.

1. He did that with momentum

2. Iron Man has better non-scaling feats way back in 2008

I think we should agree to disagree here

Wonder Woman is a casual bullet timer. She would block it. Also she is a exception, you can't find many non-bulletproof high tiers.

And Cap would block it or aim dodge. I still don't see how it's relevant to power levels. Do you think Killmonger would do better against Thanos?

Captain America would do well against characters that fight in melee. But like I said, an army squad armed just with rifles would beat Cap. Killmonger would laugh at that.

He didn't showed any reaction speed. They just shot his arm. That scene is just stupid. Also all the bullets went to his arm. Bs.

He clearly did. The guy was aiming for his head/chest and he blocked it with his arm. You can even hear the shots fire and then hit his arm, so it's not even a case of cinematic timing. They all went into his arm because it was one guy firing center mass.

I don't see Cap dodging or blocking bullets from diferent angles. He can beat a single soldier, that's for sure. But not various.And I can't place higher a guy who I think would literally lose again an army squad.

I have to agree with you. Where would you exactly place Cyborg and Destroyer then?

In a standard battle setting, Destroyer should be solidly above Cyborg since it's able to disintegrate superhuman Frost Giants and tank Mjolnir. With prep, Cyborg should be above Supes since he can hack the nuclear arsenal

Should Destroyer be higher than War Machine Mk VI?

I prefer to think about their powers in real life. Anyway, where would you place Kingpin?

Same tier but on the higher end. Widow can beat him but needs a lot of distance and a favorable environment.

Again, we should just agree to disagree. Kingpin would be a beast if you gave him, I don't know, a bulletproof suit or something. But being just a Big Strong Man I can't put him any higher.

Actually he is way above the guy who beat her.

@danii79: cap went through the exact scenario you’re describing in Winter Soldier. 1v4 shield only in civilian gear. Fodder had assault rifles and one had a minigun and he still beat them. Unless you want Steve to start with 4 guys pointing guns directly at his head he can beat a firing squad even in an open space. He could probably take dozens in an enclosed space without Mjolnir I’ll add.

Again this is super nitpicky. If one character can destroy buildings and send their opponents flying but the other is bulletproof, why is the first guy less powerful? By that same reasoning Killmonger is more powerful than Wonder Woman simply because he could no sell a firing squad while Diana can’t

Cap’s not blocking bullets from different angles, but how likely is it that he’s gonna get ambushed like that and everyone’s gonna get a shot off before Steve starts fighting?

War Machine is probably above Destroyer in everything but durability so no.

@danii79: Dormammu needs more feats. IG i disagree because despite u snaps u auto dies and struggles to snap. Surtur with sword is strong but still oneshoted himself in explosion. DCEU Superman is too high. Nothing close to team busting. Ego is lame really without prep and Peter Quill. God Mode Diana is nothing impressive

@kryptonianking88:

War machine is above Destroyer??? The same beast that is made of uru and fires blast that can disintegrate Loki instantly? Destroyer should even be above iron man himself but lacks the screen time

Where would you place him? He could even be a skyfather to me.

And regardless Thor beat him.

@danii79:

No, power isn’t just durability. You have to do something with that durability. Killmonger has mid tier durability and street tier attack power while Cap has high tier durability and (in this scenario) street tier durability.

Killmonger would be suited for guys like Spider-Man, earlier Iron Man suits, and guys with guns while Cap could tangle with Thanos and Hulk. That to me shows better overall power

Killmonger wouldn't be street tier striking if he scales off of Panther and his kinetic energy.

@danii79:

Thor beat the destroyer but WM can't replicate that feat neither can iron man so that's irrelevant to my point.

How are Thor, Thanos, Captain marvel, and Hela not in the Herald tier? They arguably have better feats or just as good as wonder woman, Zod, Ares, Superman, and Steppenwolf. Now im not saying they are all more powerful then them, but they are at least in the same tier.

@johndeyvido: So you think Thor should be way above Iron Man, as Destroyer is above him and Thor is clearly above the Destroyer.

@danii79: They don't hold a high opinion of Iron Man for right now it seems so they probably don't think Iron Man is the same tier as Thor or close. Although War Machine should actually be lower than Destroyer IMO.

@coolcat4: It's normal that people in similar power levels are in different tiers. That's because there are tons of characters so the power levels are so similar between them. It's not like just a MCU power list. So it's hard to delimitate where does a tier start and wheere ends.

Anyway, I do think Thanos, Carol and Thor are far from these other guys in power.The only character I hesitated with was Hela but as much as she is so good to fight against armies, as she can one-shot multiple enemies at the same time and she is also good yo fight against big monsters and stuff as he has the big spikes.

That's all good but Thor could hurt him and honestly I don't think she would beat Thanos that easily. I mean his armor tanked the Stormbreaker and I heavily doubt that her spikes are sharper. And Steppen's armor tanked Diana's sword which cut Doomsday which tanked a nuke so it's safe to say that Steppenwolf would no sell her spikes. And if Thor could hurt her in melee combat Steppen would decapitate easily.

And I just think that Ares versatility places higher than her. Also he should be near to Steppen so I wouldn't definately put them in different tiers.

@lilbroomstick: IMO if Iron Man was holding his own against Thor with the Mark VI he would totally beat him with the nanotech armors.

@danii79: Well we cant say for sure that her spikes wouldnt pierce his armor. Since we do not know if Dianas sword cut doomsday because of magic, Doomsday having weak piercing, or her sword being that good.

I would say though that Thor has displayed higher damage output/strength feats then most of them, and has good versatility. The only thing he lacks is consistent speed feats of them. And then the other scale from him.

If they are close then wouldn't that be the same tier. Im just a little confused. Because i would actually put thor higher then zod, Diana, Ares, and steppenwolf. Not sure about Superman. Then i would place Thanos above Thor.

That's what I think too. The script was even emphasizing how pissed Thor was during that fight. Nanotech Tony would solo Thor and Mark VI at the same time honestly.

I kind of laughed when I saw this I mean my guy has been taking on Hydra soldiers and guys with guns for his whole career. Even some superhumans. You really think these things will take him down?

@lilbroomstick:

You are clearly trolling if you think any version of mcu iron man can beat Thor. Thor one-shotted the nanotech armor in EG with one serious hit and you think the same Tony would solo Thor?

@danii79:

The only thing that iron man has over destroyer is versatility. Iron Man can fly, shoot different weapons but that's about it. Destroyer would melt Tony's armor with Tony inside easily. Destroyer is also made from a far more durable metal than Tony's suit.

I'm trolling?

Stop wanking phase 1 Thor who I don't think is anywhere near stormbreaker Thor. Also that was an unexpected Mjolnir hit boosted by Stormbreaker and electricity, and it didn't even put a dent on the armor, which you of course didn't point out.

We get it you think Iron Man is a weakling lol

@lilbroomstick:

Do you even read what you write before posting? How is it relevant if his armor was dented or not? A KO is a KO. If I knock you out and you are not bleeding does that mean it's not a KO because you were not bleeding? What do you mean unexpected hit? Are you suggesting if Tony saw the hammer coming he would have tanked it?

Point out where I said Tony is a weakling. Hulk is above Tony simple in all physical stats.

Phase 1 Thor may be below IW and EG Version but that doesn't mean Tony would solo him because he scratched Thanos. Scratching Thanos is still a long way from Ko'ing Thor.

Whether the armor is dented or not does matter because Tony can usually stay conscious until his armor is destroyed. That's how it's been in the comics and movies. Tony's durability is the armors durability. Tony was not expecting the hit nor could he brace his self or anything.

Prove how Hulk is faster than Tony since he's better in all physical stats. I gotta hear this one.

It's pretty obvious you think Tony is weak since he should be around Spider-Man level(in his best armor) according to you.

I never mentioned scratching Thanos at all. I know that's the main thing everyone else brings up but that's only a small(but considerable) piece of why I think Iron Man beats this dude.

There was actually a CAV for the Iron Family against current Thor funnily enough

FOX Magneto? Apocalypse? Phoenix? (fox phoenix force should be atleast skyfather tier)

MGR characters are far too high here.

Worthy Cap should be significantly higher.

There are other problems too, I'm just top lazy to address them.

@ilambda: I still didn't watch X-Men movies

@wolverinebatmanftw: pls don't be lazy I'm genuinely interested.

1.Where would you put MGR characters?

2.and do you think worthy Cap has Thor stats?

How the hell is Steppenwolf above Thanos. WTF

@supermod111: Scaling from Diana and Aquaman.