Marvel sorcerers vs Dc sorcerers

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Dr strange, Enchantress, Loki, Karnilla

Vs

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Dr fate, Zatanna, Raven, Constantine

Rules

edit:

everyone is in character but willing to kill

post crisis standard for dc

standard versions for marvel

standard gear

both teams have 1 day of prep but have no knowledge of the other side

Fight!

Standard morals means the DC team loses. Raven and Constantine aren't doing anything worthwhile without prep/moral removal.

Bump

@alphamon: also if by standard you mean classic then dr.strange solos

what are you talking about? don't know about raven but john has an impressive array of non-prep feats

@punyaamrit: by standard I mean regular modern dr strange and how would classic strange solo?

nah, classic strange can't solo because of Dr. Fate. If this is Modern Strange then DC takes it, with Dr. Fate and Zatanna as MVPs.

Anyway the best DC sorceress would solo both teams and that is Black Alice

@chaosherc:

I like that you brought up Black Alice (one of my favorite characters) but there are sorcerers equal and/or better than her: Circe, Klarion, and Mordru

@siremystking52: I don't think so, since she can use the magic of any magician/sorcerer/warlock and use it for a limited amount of time which might range form 1 hour to a day, with cooldown time in between

What are Constantines feats without prep

John isn't helpless, but he isn't taking on Strange + the rest of the team with no prep.

Also "Classic Strange" doesn't exist. That's a made up term made by people who don't get his power level.

@professorrespect: well I changed the rules so both teams get a day of prep

DC team.

okay so actually modern strange and classic strange are virtually the same person because dr.strange never faced a retcon or reboot but the thing is modern strange is generally considered inferior and very weak as compared to the original one due to lack of feats

now you would have to go look at his RT to know how powerful he is but these are just a few of his feats

defeated GALACTUS

defeated the IN-BETWEENER

destroyed a dimension

and i haven't even mentioned the eye of agamotto which gives him time manipulation powers

here are the most impressive according to me

creates a small sun

john utilizes a spell that reflects the damage sustained on him to the person who inflicted it

traps and forces the phantom stranger to teleport

@punyaamrit: Wow, some great out of context feats there.

Galan was weak and contending with Iron Man in that instance

In-Betweener was casually stomping Strange until he got Master Chaos and Lord Order (his creators) to basically beat him so he didn't lose.

I'd ask for citations but you clearly don't know them.

@punyaamrit: that dosen’t make any sense if classic strange and modern strange are the same person then Morten strange shouldn’t have a lack of feats and didn’t modern strange defeat a hilly amped Galactus?

that's just what people don't get

@punyaamrit: "he was hungry if that's what you mean but that is freaking galactus

No, Galan in that story was even weaker than standard levels. Even your scan states as such as he was shrinking due to his energy levels being so low, something that never happens.

If you can cite the scan, then we'd understand the full context.

did you seriously just mentioned ironman here? god"

Because Ironman was fighting him beforehand as stated by your very scan? Do you actually read them or just the pictures?

"no what in the sense do you think stomping means?

In-Betweener was driving Strange mad with his reality warping powers and also completely negated his magic. Cited scans in the link so you can read them.

the in-betweener was gaining the edge over him

Stomping him, you mean.

and then called the gods from which he accumulates his power from to beat him

False. In-Betweener casually battered Strange even when he called on the power of Eternity. The reason why Master Chaos and Lord Order did the trick is because they made In-Betweener and thus could control him.

When you can cite the contextless scans you got off his RT, then we'll have a proper discussion.

Oof

Bump

DC Sorceress