Magneto vs Batman vs Punisher vs Doom vs Vegita: Battle Of Will Power

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The nigh omnipotent PR Beyonder has chosen these men for a test. It is to test their will and determination. The winner will receive any wish they want. They are hacked into THE MATRIX. All of their abilities come SOLELY from their will and determination. Strength, powers, intelligence etc have no bearing on the victor. Only their will and determination matter.

Magneto is fighting for mutants to be the dominant species on Earth

Batman is fighting for his parents to return to life

Punisher if fighting for his family to return to life

Dr. Doom is fighting to become sole ruler of Earth

Vegita is fighting to be the most powerful fighter in the universe

Which of these men have the most will power? Who will have their wish granted?

Batman

Dr. Doom

Magneto

Punisher

Vegita

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batman

vegeta

doom

magneto

punisher

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Doom/Magneto

Nobody else is close. The real answer is Doom by feats and it isn't close, but Mags has a direct panel matching willpower explicitly against Doom.

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This is really a Doom and Magneto fight in which Doom wins. Batman and Punisher aint relevant here no matter what will they want to fight for.

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inb4lock, Vegeta

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Doom/Magneto

Nobody else is close. The real answer is Doom by feats and it isn't close, but Mags has a direct panel matching willpower explicitly against Doom.

batman has the will to wield a green lantern ring. they dont

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@paytience said:

Doom/Magneto

Nobody else is close. The real answer is Doom by feats and it isn't close, but Mags has a direct panel matching willpower explicitly against Doom.

batman has the will to wield a green lantern ring. they dont

Maybe because Green Lantern Rings don't exist in the Marvel Universe?

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Vegeta..

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@paytience said:

Doom/Magneto

Nobody else is close. The real answer is Doom by feats and it isn't close, but Mags has a direct panel matching willpower explicitly against Doom.

batman has the will to wield a green lantern ring. they dont

That's a dumb comment to make

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@standardized said:
@paytience said:

Doom/Magneto

Nobody else is close. The real answer is Doom by feats and it isn't close, but Mags has a direct panel matching willpower explicitly against Doom.

batman has the will to wield a green lantern ring. they dont

Maybe because Green Lantern Rings don't exist in the Marvel Universe?

Nah really I didnt know that.. No but I'm just saying that batmans will is far greater then most humans on earth and far greater then magnetos.

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@standardized: Dr. Doom has resisted Purple Man when Purple Man was trying his best.

Magneto has will power to resist Prof X in a battle of minds. Magneto won.

Vegita was the only person able to have free will while under Bobbities control.

So they have their own feats. I think all of them could use a GL ring

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...All I know is Punisher comes in last.

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@p00ty said:

@standardized: Dr. Doom has resisted Purple Man when Purple Man was trying his best.

Magneto has will power to resist Prof X in a battle of minds. Magneto won.

Vegita was the only person able to have free will while under Bobbities control.

So they have their own feats. I think all of them could use a GL ring

Yeah but Emperor Doom's canonicity is dubious... unless we're just talking about the characters in general? In that case, Batman healed a broken back by doing situps...

...All I know is Punisher comes in last.

When the Punisher comes in last during any contest, you know we're dealing with some serious badasses.

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Seriously, I'm finding it difficult to imagine any of these guys falling to the others. We're talking about a group of characters whose stubbornness literally knows no bounds. They're also some of the most prideful and egomaniacal characters, so admitting inferiority to another is just not an option.

I know the most about Vegeta though, so I'll make a case for him. Consider the ungodly beatings he has sustained during his battles. When fighting Pure Boo, he was beaten passed the point where he SHOULD have died, he only remained conscious because his body was already dead (long story) so the only way to "kill" him was by destroying him completely. But this just prolonged his suffering because he was able to take damage and agony beyond the point where the body is supposed to die. And he just kept. Getting. Up. Not only was he suffering pain and damage beyond what is literally possible in nature without giving up, but he also forced his broken body to stand up and battle through sheer spirit. Boo would brutalize him, turn to leave, and Vegeta would crawl out of the crater mocking Boo and daring him to come back. Vegeta was the one being effortlessly ragdolled and beaten to hell, and not only was he unafraid, no, that's not all. BOO is the one who was actually afraid of HIM! Boo has been around since the beginning of the universe and has probably destroyed millions of civilizations and killed gods, but Vegeta is probably the first person ever to make him react like this.

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So not only is Vegeta's will unbreakable, but he would make an exceptional Yellow Lantern as well :D

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I will not comment on Vegeta, but I will the rest.

Punisher has great willpower when compared to normal people dealing with stress and keeping it together but he is not to the level of rediculous examples the others have.

Batman is like an enhanced Punisher when it comes to willpower, being able to use a GL ring is a good feat for him. He is stern and stubborn and possesses great resistances, and mental fortitude.

Magneto has been all over the board, sometimes he resists Charles, other times he doesn't. Sometimes it is explained that his powers help enhance his willpower due to strengthening the impulses in his brain, and sometimes it is his helmet. He has amazing willpower, one way or another but it fluctuates depending on the writer and if he is supposed to be the villain of the story arc, or if he is the measuring stick to show how powerful the new villain of the week is.

Then there is Doom. The man who wrote the book on willpower in Marvel. He has:

1. While the purple man was in a machine that greatly enhanced his powers, to a much higher range than normal, resisted his influence, at point blank range with no discernable effort, and did it without his mask.

2. When the High Evolutionary, probably the greatest geneticist in marvel, altered the DNA of every person on Earth, Doom resisted his DNA being changed through sheer willpower alone.

3. Doom resisted the power of the Soul sword, able to conjure it's promethium armor only when he chose to do it.

4. He was tortured in hell itself and refused to make a noise from it because he would not allow himself to show weakness.

5. In the marvel zombies story arc he was the only person on earth to not go bloodthirsty almost immediately. Even Captain America did, but Doom saved his people first and resisted with his sheer willpower.

6. Resisted the power of the Overmind, which is said to have the power of a billion minds.

Doom's willpower is powered by not only his mental fortitude but also his supreme ego and arrogance.

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Should throw in Guts from Berserk

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Batman as a human willed himself, to push a spirit capable of possession, out of his body with no powers.

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I'd say between Doctor Doom and Vegeta, though I can be easily convinced otherwise.

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@standardized: The hell it is and you have nothing to back that up. Doom resisted purple man point blank. Batman did situps with a broken back? So did Bruce Lee. Real life people have done that. Ha Batman ever willed his way through vivisection without complaint? Doom has.

Dr. Doom was tortured in hell and never showed pain; he was used for fuel by the galactic engine and never made a sound as Human Torch wailed next to him; Doom resisted the High Evolutionary's mutation through sheer willpower; Dr. Doom resisted the Soul Sword until he needed it; Dr. Doom resisted pre-retcon Beyonder through sheer willpower.

Doom's will is iron clad in comics...which is why Magneto, who has resisted the simultaneous attack of Xavier AND Jean in his sleep btw...this is why Magneto comes in second...because on panel, in a head to head test of wills, Magneto took Doom to a draw. Bats doesn't come close to that.

Wielding a lantern ring is nothing...tons of people have. It doesn't make you the strongest willed. It simply means you have will enough to call the ring.

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#22  Edited By KingFrieza

just too note on the vegeta tp resistance feat, he let a planetary tp user in his head, then was able to kick the guy out after he let him in... blocking tp is impressive, but kicking someone out of your head is a lot harder.

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I say Doom. He passed the panther God's test, something no one thought would be possible. Maybe Batman is a close second cuz he's Batman?

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Not a battle plus contains a DBZ character. Should be in general discussion.

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Dr. Doom wins.

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Batman would win if he was fighting to eradicate crime from the world. That's his whole purpose of being Batman.

So probably Vegeta

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Batman and Vegeta tops.

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@zackattack14: Dr. Doom passing the Panthers good test wasn't about will power. It showed Doom had good intentions. Doom really believes that the world would be a better place if he were in charge.

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#30  Edited By Gracetrack

Batman.

As for feats, his willpower...

Overcame the spirit essence of a dying Darkseid. (Return of Bruce Wayne)

Overcame years of torture by Desaad, with no ill effects, in an altered future timeline. (Rock of Ages)

Allowed him to wield a Green Lantern ring on a couple of occasions.

Allowed him (without his suit or gear) to fight a continuous stream of thugs for 28 hours straight, and win.

Resisted the despair of the ultimate god-weapon, Mageddon, with some help from Martian Manhunter.

Resisted the psychic assault of the demon goddess, Mistos.

Overcame the Court of Owls' labyrinth and Talon after having been massively drugged, starved, and dehydrated over the course of a week, without his gear.

Has resisted Ivy's pheromones, Scarecrow's fear toxin, Hatter's mind control, and Joker's venom.

Has resisted other psychic and mystic attacks from various sources.

... to name a few things.