Basically just say who and state why they are the most f'd up
joker vs deadpool vs punisher vs larfleeze which is most insane..
The Joker, I think. Unless someone can make a good argument for Larfleeze. Deadpool is more wacky and zany then legitimately crazy. Punisher is angry and violent but he's not legitimately crazy. Joker though, Joker is pretty much Crazy personified. His motivations can only be guessed at. He thinks everything is a big joke and he's brilliant as he is mad. He's so crazy that he can drive other people mad by association. That's pretty freaking crazy... Though Joker loses to Delerium... cause she is actually Crazy personified.
@blackadamFTW said:
I'm gonna say Larfleeze. He's been crazy for over a billion years, so I think he takes the cake.
He's been alive that long?
@XMen1963: Argumenetive. You say that's crazy but that's a matter of opinion. He kills people who are criminals. Murderers, rapists, and the like. It's no more crazy than say, dressing up as a bat to fight crime or any of the other people in Marvel or DC. Joker is a mad man who kills people because it amuses him to do so. Punisher kills people because they're villains. *Shrugs* Between the two? Joker is far crazier. Punisher isn't really. But it's a personal opinion.
@jeanroygrant said:
@blackadamFTW said:
I'm gonna say Larfleeze. He's been crazy for over a billion years, so I think he takes the cake.
He's been alive that long?
He sure has.
@XMen1963: I just don't seem him as crazy. Harsh. Overly-violent. Yeah. But crazy? Possibly but not significantly so.
Joker is so crazy that his craziness rubs off on people.
That is why Gotham hasn't given him the electric chair. Because they caught his crazy
@VercingetorixTheGreat said:
Joker is so crazy that his craziness rubs off on people.
That is why Gotham hasn't given him the electric chair. Because DC's bank account caught his crazy
Fixed that for ya ;)
@Pokeysteve said:
@VercingetorixTheGreat said:
Joker is so crazy that his craziness rubs off on people.
That is why Gotham hasn't given him the electric chair. Because DC's bank account caught his crazy
Fixed that for ya ;)
thankyou
@FourthDeity: I'll take that and raise you this. Joker killing crushing Psimon brains with a rock and then scares the hell out of some villains to get him a well done steak.
He's still not as crazy as the Joker.@DangerousLoki: Because he has gone crazy over the death of his family. People who aren't crazy couldn't live with themselves if they killed even 1 person. Let alone 2000
He's not the most well-balanced guy inthe World...but there are plenty of people way more crazy than Frank.
Cletus Kassidy for example.
The Joker is Super Sane meaning he is above sanity and insanity and as such he is not crazy. He merely fakes being crazy to get away with things like murder and earn Batman's sympathy. Maybe you shouldn't mistake insanity for genius.
@DedmanWalkin said:
The Joker is Super Sane meaning he is above sanity and insanity and as such he is not crazy. He merely fakes being crazy to get away with things like murder and earn Batman's sympathy. Maybe you shouldn't mistake insanity for genius.
Finally somebody who knows what they're talking about.
Depends on your definition of crazy. Einstein’s definition was people who try the same thing over and over again, and expect different results. I’d say that’s closer to simple arrogance, which I do not equate to insanity, but that’s just me. My definition of crazy is whoever has the most flexible personality. In other words, the one who’s goals and methods are the most inconsistent, both in relation to themselves, and each other respectively. This is closer to illogicality, which is my equivalent to insanity. Interestingly, one of Harley Quinn’s hypotheses on the Joker back when she was his shrink was that he is CONSTANTLY reinventing himself, which fits perfectly into my definition of insanity. So naturally, my pick would be Joker, with Deadpool in second, and Frank Castle 3rd as while he SEEMS to apply more force than necessary to achieve his goals, his intent, as spelled out in his name, is not justice, but punishment, and with that goal in mind, his methods are fairly logical (sane) I consider the question of whether I/we agree with those methods to be another question entirely. To be honest though, I know nothing about the 4th candidate, so my answer is a bit incomplete.
@DedmanWalkin For me, that THEORY (it is one of many in the true nature of the Joker) would only add to his insanity, because I'm a bit doubtful he could lie to someone like Batman without also lieing to himself about just what his true nature is. And lying to yourself is a a benefit gained from having a flexible personality, which means by MY definition, he's still crazy :P
The only truth in the Joker is his hatred of Batman, everything else is all part of the lie. He doesn't have to do all of the lying because sometimes he lets the Joker Venom do the talking. What about the Joker is inconsistent? You seem to not realize that the Joker's only goal in life is to make Batman kill him.
Joker by far,he IS the epitome of crazy,right? That's what his character is built upon,being insane... I mean he is nothing but insanity. Punisher isn't crazy or insane,as per say jokers insanity. Deadpool is a jester IMO.. And Larfleeze is close to joker on that level,but joker takes the cake. Anybody laughs during getting brutally beaten,or laughs staring at death right in the face is freaking insane,plus having no powers.. Just human.. He is THE most insane character here. Now Otis from devils rejects could've been a better match up,lol.
I'm going to say joker. and larfleeze himself isn't crazy, it just the orange lantern over whelms anyone who touches with greed. in fact one issue, i cant remember if it was blackest night or the new guardians series, but he was separated from his ring and he said "keep that thing away from me!" when it was coming back to him.
Such a phrase is ambiguous at best, CitizenBane. No one person's mind can contain all the madness in creation in it thus making it an impossibility. Does the Spectre define madness as insanity, anger, foolishness, or excitement? The Joker could fit into all three of the latter just as easily as the former. Much like God, the Spectre does not always speak plainly so his true meaning is as up to interpretation as any religious text.
Also, unless the Joker had been sobered up, any assessment of him would yield some level of insanity.
Joker is the most insane. He is downright crazy. He would kill you just cause you made him laugh. You ask for his help when you are his ally? He goes and stabs you in the back and decides to solo the opposing heroes himself. Especially this one time where he killed Scarecrow and the two were working together and Batman was basically at their doorsteps.
I mean basically any of the other 3 would realize that having an extra person would definitely be more help and would be useful in fighting Batman.
Deadpool, may have a daredevilish and crazy fighting style, but really when he isn't all out fighting, he is pretty laid back and just likes to talk and make jokes a lot.
The Punisher isn't really insane. He's just too absorbed into his own past and wants to run away from it, especially through killing. You could say the Hulk at full out rage is crazier than the Punisher. It's why he's a comic book "hero" and why many readers of the Punisher series can see where he comes from and relate to him.
Larfleeze isn't insane. He is just greedy and wants the whole universe in the palm of his hand. Basically he is driven by his greed and taking it in any way. But, as long as every single action a character takes is explainable, the character isn't really what you would call "crazy."
Edit: As for the thing about Super Sanity -
Joker is insane because his core self is completely sane.
I guess you could say he is suffering from a really advanced form of multi-personality disorder.
So while his core self technically disqualifies him from this thing, all his other personalities are insane.
So in other words - Joker is insane as long as he is being the Joker under one of his other personalities and not his core self.
You are wrong about the Joker, he is not insane. His methods may be difficult to understand but there is always a reason for each level of his plan. He kills his allies because it makes him scary to other villains allowing him to manipulate them like he did during Salvation Run. Also, the Joker would stab you in the front not the back.
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