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#1 Posted by Blackstar_95 (306 posts) - - Show Bio

I had a bad feeling Steppenwolf would be a forgettable cgi villain and judging by most of the reviews he was the weakest part of the movie. I think they should have used a more familiar villain like Vandal savage or Amazo to name a few. It would have eliminated the similarities of the avengers. Both had an alien force invading earth parademons/chitarui.

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#2 Posted by All-Father (4752 posts) - - Show Bio

I had a bad feeling Steppenwolf would be a forgettable cgi villain and judging by most of the reviews he was the weakest part of the movie. I think they should have used a more familiar villain like Vandal savage or Amazo to name a few. It would have eliminated the similarities of the avengers. Both had an alien force invading earth parademons/chitarui.

it is not copying the avengers in anyway, they're following the New 52 Origin for the Justice League but just reserved Darkseid for later movies.

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#3 Posted by Blackstar_95 (306 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackstar_95 said:

I had a bad feeling Steppenwolf would be a forgettable cgi villain and judging by most of the reviews he was the weakest part of the movie. I think they should have used a more familiar villain like Vandal savage or Amazo to name a few. It would have eliminated the similarities of the avengers. Both had an alien force invading earth parademons/chitarui.

it is not copying the avengers in anyway, they're following the New 52 Origin for the Justice League but just reserved Darkseid for later movies.

I get what you're saying but I believe they should have went with a earthly villain instead of the cliche villain from another world.

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#4 Posted by Eto (3804 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father: Im pretty sure more than the half of the people going to CBMs don't read comics. So OP is kinda right.

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@eto said:

@all-father: Im pretty sure more than the half of the people going to CBMs don't read comics. So OP is kinda right.

People seem to forget that the general audience outnumber the CB audience.

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@eto said:

@all-father: Im pretty sure more than the half of the people going to CBMs don't read comics. So OP is kinda right.

People seem to forget that the general audience outnumber the CB audience.

So, how are they gonna recognize AMAZO or Vandal Savage? And they liked The Avengers. Doing similar things isn't bad. It's not about who does something first, it's who does it best.

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#9 Posted by All-Father (4752 posts) - - Show Bio

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@blackstar_95: And what earthly villains would you suggest?

Look at the OP.

Amazo and Vandal Savage? Really? How are you going to make a compelling villain out of a Robot who can copy powers?

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#10 Posted by Prospero_Locke (1069 posts) - - Show Bio

while not ideal, I don't understand why having an Avengers-esque movie to start as ground zero for the future is so bad. Steppenwolf is clearly not the point of the movie. the point of the movie is everyone admitting they should team up and help together

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#11 Posted by BabyDarkseid (1907 posts) - - Show Bio

amazo and vandal savage isnt familiar either

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#12 Edited by Blackstar_95 (306 posts) - - Show Bio

Vandal Savage is more familiar in the comics, both justice league animated shows and young justice. If done right he could have been a very compelling villain instead of bland Steppenwolf

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#13 Posted by Black_Arrow (9474 posts) - - Show Bio

The problem is that they don't have time to focus on the villain and the introduction of all the heroes so that's why they picked a weak villain.

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#14 Posted by Supermanforever (3004 posts) - - Show Bio

I had a bad feeling Steppenwolf would be a forgettable cgi villain and judging by most of the reviews he was the weakest part of the movie. I think they should have used a more familiar villain like Vandal savage or Amazo to name a few. It would have eliminated the similarities of the avengers. Both had an alien force invading earth parademons/chitarui.

Probabl feels generic for people who are not into comics. However even in comics Steppenwolf is not supposed to be this big bad insane villain. Thats Darkseids job. We didnt need insane villain in this kind of movie to steal the show from the heroes. Im ok with steppenwolf just in this one and let Darkseid show what true villain is. But i swear if they make Darkseid like the generic retard like in that animated movie jl war im riot. They need to make villain like Animated series with Darkseid beeing clever, cocky and manipulating asshole. Loved animated series version :D

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#15 Edited by theoneaboveyall (196 posts) - - Show Bio

@scouterv said:
@theoneaboveyall said:
@eto said:

@all-father: Im pretty sure more than the half of the people going to CBMs don't read comics. So OP is kinda right.

People seem to forget that the general audience outnumber the CB audience.

So, how are they gonna recognize AMAZO or Vandal Savage? And they liked The Avengers. Doing similar things isn't bad. It's not about who does something first, it's who does it best.

They aint gonna recognize any DC Villain except for the Joker and Bane. Im just saying people keep thinking that the general audience dont exist on CV.

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@scouterv said:
@theoneaboveyall said:
@eto said:

@all-father: Im pretty sure more than the half of the people going to CBMs don't read comics. So OP is kinda right.

People seem to forget that the general audience outnumber the CB audience.

So, how are they gonna recognize AMAZO or Vandal Savage? And they liked The Avengers. Doing similar things isn't bad. It's not about who does something first, it's who does it best.

They aint gonna recognize any DC Villain except for the Joker and Bane. Im just saying people keep thinking that the general audience dont exist on CV.

I don't think that's true. The pandering to the general audience is basically a given at this point. It's not something we need to bring up every time, especially about characters that many people here are passionate about. I mean, yeah, the general audience is important, but aren't on CV.

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#17 Posted by Thordinson (1445 posts) - - Show Bio

White Martians, Starro, Despero would've been better.

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#18 Posted by MAZAHS117 (9806 posts) - - Show Bio

While I haven’t seen the film, so I can’t personally speak on how Steppenwolf is, I’m a big fan of classic villains/characters..so I totally would’ve cool with STARRO, the first villain I believe they fought if IIRC. ...Vandal Savage or Brainiac could been cool first league forming villains too

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#19 Posted by Guru_Crack (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackstar_95: Loved Steppenwolf in the New 52 Earth 2 Comics so i'm hoping he doesn't suck in the film.

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#20 Posted by righteous300 (3975 posts) - - Show Bio

Once each character gets their solo movie and faces their individual foe, I can see Vandal Savage bringing them together to take on the league, so maybe JL2 or something. Amazo? Eh. I think Steppenwolf was the best pick, since Cyborg is kimd of tied to him in a way.

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#21 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (17552 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father: they actually did an amazing job of it in the JLU series. I'm cool with Steppenwolf though

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#22 Edited by mrmonster (5704 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they went with Steppenwolf to set up Darkseid and the New Gods, the same way Loki in The Avengers and Ronan in Guardians of the Galaxy helped set up Thanos and the Black Order.