James Cameron says Wonder Woman is a "Step Back".

He was asked a question and answered honestly. He wasn't "telling" anybody to do anything, he was expressing an opinion, after being asked for it. What was he supposed to do? Lie?

@nickzambuto:

He is completely in his right to give his opinion on something. My only point was that being a big name director doesn't give that opinion significant weight as it does not pertain to his area of expertise, and that Patty has the right to respond to his criticism and point out that fact.

Gotcha.

I'm not going to start bashing the guy and start discrediting him because of this.

Having said that I strongly disagree with him and think his opinion on this is idiotic.

His statement doesn't make much sense to me. It does come off as saltiness.

Logic.

It is.

Wonder Woman is the most iconic super hero according to you, and only you. What James Cameron says holds true. Neytiri is more well known and influential from a film that is much larger than anything from the DC or Marvel Universe.

He's allowed an opinion. Based on what I've read, I get the point he was attempting to make about objectification. Somewhat. Wonder Woman is definitely not a step backwards, though. That was a weird assertion for him to make. Almost like his idea of a perfect female character is the correct one. No one can or should claim that. Not without coming off as an idiot.

I also got Ms. Jenkins point about him not understanding what the movie and the character depicted in it, means to women. He couldn't possibly be able to get that, as a man. How could he? It's an important distinction because of what he's claimed the movie has done for female representation in film. What it means to us. Us, as in, women as a whole. I don't particularly like when anyone speaks for an entire group, but in this instance, it doesn't make any sense since he doesn't belong to the group he's claiming injury for. I just took it as odd. He's odd. This whole thing comes off as odd.

According to pop culture and comic history? Perhaps comic history, but Neytiri isn't a comic character. That argument is moot. Avatar is also the highest grossing film of all time, and is easily more popular than Wonder Woman.

Doesn't matter.

Alexander the Great predates Jesus Christ by a far greater time period, but he is less recognizable. Your analogy is moot.

That doesn't even make sense.

Over 90% of the people who watched Avatar don't even remember Neytiri's name, now try to find someone who never heard the name Wonder Woman XD.....

Let alone that the original Pocahontas much more influential was than Neytiri could ever dream of.

@gunchar16 said:

@galactusxax said:

Wonder Woman is the most iconic super hero according to you, and only you. What James Cameron says holds true. Neytiri is more well known and influential from a film that is much larger than anything from the DC or Marvel Universe.

Over 90% of the people who watched Avatar don't even remember Neytiri's name, now try to find someone who never heard the name Wonder Woman XD.....

Let alone that the original Pocahontas much more influential was than Neytiri could ever dream of.

They would recognize her.

@gunchar16 said:

@galactusxax said:

Wonder Woman is the most iconic super hero according to you, and only you. What James Cameron says holds true. Neytiri is more well known and influential from a film that is much larger than anything from the DC or Marvel Universe.

Over 90% of the people who watched Avatar don't even remember Neytiri's name, now try to find someone who never heard the name Wonder Woman XD.....

Let alone that the original Pocahontas much more influential was than Neytiri could ever dream of.

I actually had to just google Neytiri to know what that was and I watched the movie. I wonder if that user was being sarcastic.

@dernman said:

@gunchar16 said:

@galactusxax said:

Wonder Woman is the most iconic super hero according to you, and only you. What James Cameron says holds true. Neytiri is more well known and influential from a film that is much larger than anything from the DC or Marvel Universe.

Over 90% of the people who watched Avatar don't even remember Neytiri's name, now try to find someone who never heard the name Wonder Woman XD.....

Let alone that the original Pocahontas much more influential was than Neytiri could ever dream of.

I actually had to just google Neytiri to know what that was and I watched the movie.

I didn't know Diana's name until Wonder Woman came out. What's your point?

@galactusxax:

I didn't know Diana's name until Wonder Woman came out. What's your point?

So you still knew the name Wonder Woman, that's exactly the point.

@dernman said:

@gunchar16 said:

@galactusxax said:

Wonder Woman is the most iconic super hero according to you, and only you. What James Cameron says holds true. Neytiri is more well known and influential from a film that is much larger than anything from the DC or Marvel Universe.

Over 90% of the people who watched Avatar don't even remember Neytiri's name, now try to find someone who never heard the name Wonder Woman XD.....

Let alone that the original Pocahontas much more influential was than Neytiri could ever dream of.

I actually had to just google Neytiri to know what that was and I watched the movie. I wonder if that user was being sarcastic.

Well apparently not XD.

@galactusxax: Using your logic, Sam Worthington's character, whatever his name was, is a bigger cultural icon than Batman or Spider-Man just because of Avatar's box office gross.

Yeah. That ship isn't sailing.

lol wat?

We're talking females.

And more people know Avatar than the Wonder Woman film, that's exactly the point.

@galactusxax:

And more people know Avatar than the Wonder Woman film, that's exactly the point.

@gunchar16 said:

@galactusxax:

And more people know Avatar than the Wonder Woman film, that's exactly the point.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/

Wonder Woman: Total Lifetime Grosses

Avatar: Total Lifetime Grosses

Avatar was a worldwide phenomena. Wonder Woman wasn't.

You're right, it's incomparable. Neytiri is much more famous.

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@gunchar16 said:

@galactusxax:

And more people know Avatar than the Wonder Woman film, that's exactly the point.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/

Wonder Woman: Total Lifetime Grosses

Domestic:	$404,518,061	50.5%
+ Foreign:	$396,100,000	49.5%
= Worldwide:	$800,618,061

Avatar: Total Lifetime Grosses

Domestic:	$760,507,625	27.3%
+ Foreign:	$2,027,457,462	72.7%
= Worldwide:	$2,787,965,087

Avatar was a worldwide phenomena. Wonder Woman wasn't.

avatar, not the female character from avatar. Wonder Woman has been a global icon for 76 years. And her film has been a global hit. And also a phenomena for female comic characters on the silver screen. She lifted the "curse" saying that a woman can't carry a super hero film.

Avatar is known world wide, Wonder Woman isn't.

@gunchar16: @agent41: Don't bother. I sense trolling at this point.

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@gunchar16 said:

@galactusxax:

And more people know Avatar than the Wonder Woman film, that's exactly the point.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/

Wonder Woman: Total Lifetime Grosses

Domestic:	$404,518,061	50.5%
+ Foreign:	$396,100,000	49.5%
= Worldwide:	$800,618,061

Avatar: Total Lifetime Grosses

Domestic:	$760,507,625	27.3%
+ Foreign:	$2,027,457,462	72.7%
= Worldwide:	$2,787,965,087

Avatar was a worldwide phenomena. Wonder Woman wasn't.

avatar, not the female character from avatar. Wonder Woman has been a global icon for 76 years. And her film has been a global hit. And also a phenomena for female comic characters on the silver screen. She lifted the "curse" saying that a woman can't carry a super hero film.

Avatar is known world wide, Wonder Woman isn't.

That is a lie bigger than a house.

It's a fact.

Sorry, it's a fact.

You're right, it's incomparable. Neytiri is much more famous.

Avatar is known world wide, Wonder Woman isn't.

Oh it was appearantly not clear enough:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@space_coyote said:

@galactusxax: Using your logic, Sam Worthington's character, whatever his name was, is a bigger cultural icon than Batman or Spider-Man just because of Avatar's box office gross.

Yeah. That ship isn't sailing.

We're talking females.

It's the same thing. The female character in avatar is not matching 76 years of iconic status.

You're right, it's incomparable. Neytiri is much more famous.

In an alternative universe maybe.

Sorry, it's a fact.

It is.

Yeah your probably right.

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@space_coyote said:

@galactusxax: Using your logic, Sam Worthington's character, whatever his name was, is a bigger cultural icon than Batman or Spider-Man just because of Avatar's box office gross.

Yeah. That ship isn't sailing.

We're talking females.

It's the same thing. The female character in avatar is not matching 76 years of iconic status.

You're right, it's incomparable. Neytiri is much more famous.

In an alternative universe maybe.

Sorry, it's a fact.

It is.

Wonder Woman doesn't even show up on the list of best selling comics. Get outta' here lmao

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@agent41 said:

@galactusxax said:

@space_coyote said:

@galactusxax: Using your logic, Sam Worthington's character, whatever his name was, is a bigger cultural icon than Batman or Spider-Man just because of Avatar's box office gross.

Yeah. That ship isn't sailing.

We're talking females.

It's the same thing. The female character in avatar is not matching 76 years of iconic status.

You're right, it's incomparable. Neytiri is much more famous.

In an alternative universe maybe.

Sorry, it's a fact.

It is.

Wonder Woman doesn't even show up on the list of best selling comics. Get outta' here lmao

Trying to desperatly change the topic i see. Wonder Woman has been an icon for 76 years. She is globally known. Her comics, TV show, merchandise and current film prove it.

Wonder Woman isn't a global phenomena. Avatar is. Being an icon in America 76 years doesn't change that.