Is VS Battles Wiki reliable?

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#1 Posted by echostarlord117 (5617 posts) - - Show Bio

The title says it all.

Here's a link to the site in case anyone is unfamiliar with it: http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/VS_Battles_Wiki

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#2 Edited by echostarlord117 (5617 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm particularly interested in whether or not their rating system is anything other than nonsense. For example, a friend of mine showed me their page on Obi-Wan and on it they classified him as a high 6-A character, meaning he can bust a continent/easily harm someone with continent-level durability. I mean, give me a break... On the other hand, though, they are fairly accurate with other characters. Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding something.

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#3 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

As with any wiki, you have to bear in mind always is that they are pages that have been written by fans or other observers who have taken it on themselves to make these pages, punch in these numbers and so on. And you simply cannot be certain they are entirely truthful or accurate, because fans sometimes wont be wearing their 'reasonable glasses' and instead blast the capablities of a character out of proportion.

Take some of our resident Storm and Thor supporters, some of them believe their icons cannot be beat by anyone even if there is nothing to really support that from comics.

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#4 Posted by Gnomishness (1714 posts) - - Show Bio

@echostarlord117: They're reliable enough to use as a secondary source, in my opinion. What they say is almost never unreasonable if looked at from a certain context, but that context is not typically the more reasoned context or the most likely one. It's good if you're looking for a potentially arguable high end for certain characters though...

And their concepts on physics are pretty good. A nice way to quantify things.

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#5 Edited by Galactic_1000 (5851 posts) - - Show Bio

Please Don't take Vs Battle wiki as your Official guide book there ranking system is complete ****.They are wrong about Celestial sapiens,God Rex,Gilgamesh etc

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#6 Posted by BruceRogers (17789 posts) - - Show Bio

Frack no.

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#7 Posted by AkshSarpanch (3573 posts) - - Show Bio

More reliable than this site and its biased nerds.

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#8 Posted by echostarlord117 (5617 posts) - - Show Bio

@gnomishness: Hm, that's kind of what I was thinking. They seem to *usually* get things right, but they're prone to wanking the shit out of certain characters, particularly characters from anime/manga and, to a far lesser extent, Star Wars.

@outside_85: "As with any wiki, you have to bear in mind always is that they are pages that have been written by fans or other observers who have taken it on themselves to make these pages,"

They don't have mods?

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#9 Edited by CitizenSurfer (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

I got banned for a year for saying Thor is not a solar system buster. That tells you all you need to know about the site.

Here's the link:

http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:525900

Edit: Just went back and checked Thor's page on vsBattlewikia and it turns out that Thor is "likely 2-C".

What's a 2-C you ask? Well it's multi-universal obviously...

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#10 Posted by webinyoureye11 (5928 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: I gotta say, that's pretty funny. Those vs guys sure are sensitive

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#11 Edited by Galactic_1000 (5851 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: My friend I am telling you Vs battles wiki complete Pathetic.Even worse Than CV(Sometimes CV seems to be worse than Vs battles wiki)

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#12 Posted by CitizenSurfer (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: My friend I am telling you Vs battles wiki complete Pathetic.Even worse Than CV(Sometimes CV seems to be worse than Vs battles wiki)

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#13 Edited by KwasiD2k (844 posts) - - Show Bio

No different than someone saying something on CV, but you might as well go to the actual character wiki cuz they site their sources like DC gives you the issue and page number whatever they say took place in

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#14 Edited by Major_Hellstrom (18100 posts) - - Show Bio

It is bad. Capital B A D, bad. Every time I go on there, their rankings are wrong, sometimes they are off by miles. I only saw them get one character spot on.

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#15 Posted by Pipxeroth (9804 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, I'd say it's the most unreliable source next to youtube comments.

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#16 Posted by MakerofMatches (409 posts) - - Show Bio

More reliable than this site and its biased nerds.

Great joke.

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#18 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

Reliable when it comes to anything other than comedy?

Hell to the no.

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#19 Posted by deactivated-5aeee927346fb (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

I got banned for a year for saying Thor is not a solar system buster. That tells you all you need to know about the site.

Here's the link:

http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:525900

Edit: Just went back and checked Thor's page on vsBattlewikia and it turns out that Thor is "likely 2-C".

What's a 2-C you ask? Well it's multi-universal obviously...

The problem isn't the calc, the problem is that these guys take one off feats as the norm, the calc was sound by a mathematical and logical perspective, but no self-respecting Thor fan or debater believes he's Solar System level because of consistency.

The 2-C rating is for Rune King Thor by the way.

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#20 Posted by deactivated-5aeee927346fb (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

It is bad. Capital B A D, bad. Every time I go on there, their rankings are wrong, sometimes they are off by miles. I only saw them get one character spot on.

Who?

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#21 Posted by CitizenSurfer (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer said:

I got banned for a year for saying Thor is not a solar system buster. That tells you all you need to know about the site.

Here's the link:

http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:525900

Edit: Just went back and checked Thor's page on vsBattlewikia and it turns out that Thor is "likely 2-C".

What's a 2-C you ask? Well it's multi-universal obviously...

The problem isn't the calc, the problem is that these guys take one off feats as the norm, the calc was sound by a mathematical and logical perspective, but no self-respecting Thor fan or debater believes he's Solar System level because of consistency.

The 2-C rating is for Rune King Thor by the way.

Nowhere is it explicitly stated that the tier in question is in reference to Rune King Thor, and even if it was I would ask "them" to show me scans of RKT performing a multi-universal feat.

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#22 Posted by deactivated-5aeee927346fb (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

@echostarlord117: Don't trust their character profiles at all, the only thing they're good for is providing resources and a scale to calc feats with.

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#23 Edited by deactivated-5aeee927346fb (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: If you go at the bottom of his profile there is a section called "Key" and it lists "Base | Odin Force Thor | Rune King Thor", each version of the character corresponds with the Tier ratings at the top of the page. As for why he's listed as multi-universal, first off it's "Low 2-C" which means only capable of destroying a single universe, I believe their reasoning is scaling from Odin (listed as multi-galactic) who RKT was supposedly more powerful than, plus the fact that he became one with the universe.

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#24 Posted by Battle123axe (9677 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on what you're relying on them for. Which happens to be nothing relating to character profiles.

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#25 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@asgardianbrony: No I was the one that got banned for that, knowing you; you probably got banned for trying to argue that Thor could one-shot Galactus

firstly, i got banned for it as well.

secondly, you dont "know me", i have never claimed thor could oneshot galactus.

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#28 Posted by Yarva (2937 posts) - - Show Bio

@asgardianbrony: No I was the one that got banned for that, knowing you; you probably got banned for trying to argue that Thor could one-shot Galactus

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#30 Posted by Agent9149 (3627 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no objectively perfect character wiki.

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#31 Posted by SeaGod (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

nah. I mean I sometimes use it for characters I know and can tell if something is off. I mostly just use it to help as a mental refresher. I never take it as fact.

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#32 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: sure, because arguments from a full year ago when i was a newb that had just joined the site and had no idea how everything worked are totally indicative of what i think now. you know me so well *sarcasm*

i guess you still think SS can consistently beat multiple galactus level beings. never mind that there is context behind your arguments and they were from a year ago, i know you like the back of my hand ;)

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#33 Edited by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12277 posts) - - Show Bio

Some info's are reliable but the majority aren't.

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#34 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

Brony just got triggered

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#35 Posted by Shadowshock (433 posts) - - Show Bio

absolutely not.NF is far more credible.

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#36 Posted by Galactic_1000 (5851 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: I am talking about Dbz wankers,Bleach wankers naruto wankers my friend

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#37 Posted by deactivated-5aeee927346fb (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

absolutely not.NF is far more credible.

What's NF?

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#38 Posted by Shadowshock (433 posts) - - Show Bio
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#39 Posted by deactivated-5aeee927346fb (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowshock: Well from what I've seen most of the VS Battles Wiki calcs come from Naruto Forums so there is that...

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#40 Edited by Superhero24 (4766 posts) - - Show Bio

Not at all. They used pixels which isn't the best way to measure things. They have DCEU supes as Island level to country level in power. They accept outliers and offscreen feats. They even have Neo as Island level. They also have Hancock as Mountain Level even though the director of the movie said he would be taken out by a 50 megaton bomb.

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#42 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: once again, that was more than a year ago, as i already said "sure, because arguments from a full year ago when i was a newb that had just joined the site and had no idea how everything worked are totally indicative of what i think now. you know me so well *sarcasm".

your trash talk and trolling is weak, everyone on this sight could be picked on for something they did in their early days.

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#44 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: it means they dont know what is considered PIS or how to debate according to the nebulous rules of the public opinion of comicvine. i know a great deal more about thor and his mythos than most people on this site, if we debated now it would be entirely different than before... well perhaps not entirely, you still seem to enjoy derailing threads for no reason.

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#45 Posted by CitizenSurfer (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer: it means they dont know what is considered PIS or how to debate according to the nebulous rules of the public opinion of comicvine. i know a great deal more about thor and his mythos than most people on this site, if we debated now it would be entirely different than before... well perhaps not entirely, you still seem to enjoy derailing threads for no reason.

So if we debated right now you'd bring scans not seen by anybody else that somehow now place Thor above Silver Surfer even though it is widely regarded as fact that Silver Surfer would whoop Thor?

well perhaps not entirely, you still seem to enjoy derailing threads for no reason.

You're the one who derailed the CAV. You can try and claim that you didn't all you want, but if you really want me to screencap the post where you started the derailment then I can.

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#46 Posted by deactivated-5aeee927346fb (1531 posts) - - Show Bio
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#47 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer:

So if we debated right now you'd bring scans not seen by anybody else that somehow now place Thor above Silver Surfer even though it is widely regarded as fact that Silver Surfer would whoop Thor?

it is not a widely regarded fact that surfer beats thor, its an opinion and there are many who think differently.

there are no new scans for any character, its about how you use them, and i can use them far better now than i did before.

You're the one who derailed the CAV. You can try and claim that you didn't all you want, but if you really want me to screencap the post where you started the derailment then I can.

i know what happened, i may have said one thing but you blew it out of proportion and started accusing people of being alts. you got the thread locked because you couldnt handle one person voting against you.

@asgardianbrony, @citizensurfer: Rematch, rematch, just do Thor vs. normal stable Sentry this time, I demand it.

i would be up for this once i get back from my trip in a month or so.

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#48 Posted by CitizenSurfer (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer:

So if we debated right now you'd bring scans not seen by anybody else that somehow now place Thor above Silver Surfer even though it is widely regarded as fact that Silver Surfer would whoop Thor?

it is not a widely regarded fact that surfer beats thor, its an opinion and there are many who think differently.

there are no new scans for any character, its about how you use them, and i can use them far better now than i did before.

You're the one who derailed the CAV. You can try and claim that you didn't all you want, but if you really want me to screencap the post where you started the derailment then I can.

i know what happened, i may have said one thing but you blew it out of proportion and started accusing people of being alts. you got the thread locked because you couldnt handle one person voting against you.

it is not a widely regarded fact that surfer beats thor, its an opinion and there are many who think differently.

there are no new scans for any character, its about how you use them, and i can use them far better now than i did before.

They are still the same feats, presenting them in a different manner doesn't alter a characters power level.

i know what happened, i may have said one thing but you blew it out of proportion and started accusing people of being alts. you got the thread locked because you couldnt handle one person voting against you.

You accused me of blaspheming for telling you that you aren't God, you and MrBlue who I'm still adamant is your alternate account continued on debating even though the voting was technically over, you then started arguments with multiple users who didn't vote for you and then you made an entirely new thread, you didn't tag me in it and you also gave yourself false votes (which you also got caught out on).

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#49 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer:

They are still the same feats, presenting them in a different manner doesn't alter a characters power level.

thor >= surfer. your view on their power levels is not a fact, its just your own opinion.

You accused me of blaspheming for telling you that you aren't God, you and MrBlue who I'm still adamant is your alternate account continued on debating even though the voting was technically over, you then started arguments with multiple users who didn't vote for you and then you made an entirely new thread, you didn't tag me in it and you also gave yourself false votes (which you also got caught out on).

i dont remember it quite that way at all, but you are never going to admit your foolish actions.

anyway, enough derailing this thread. do you accept the thor (fighting seriously) vs stable normal sentry cav challenge to commence in roughly a months time?

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#50 Posted by CitizenSurfer (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizensurfer:

They are still the same feats, presenting them in a different manner doesn't alter a characters power level.

thor >= surfer. your view on their power levels is not a fact, its just your own opinion.

You accused me of blaspheming for telling you that you aren't God, you and MrBlue who I'm still adamant is your alternate account continued on debating even though the voting was technically over, you then started arguments with multiple users who didn't vote for you and then you made an entirely new thread, you didn't tag me in it and you also gave yourself false votes (which you also got caught out on).

i dont remember it quite that way at all, but you are never going to admit your foolish actions.

anyway, enough derailing this thread. do you accept the thor (fighting seriously) vs stable normal sentry cav challenge to commence in roughly a months time?

thor >= surfer. your view on their power levels is not a fact, its just your own opinion.

You mean Surfer> Thor, and my "opinion" is backed up by feats, this view is also shared by almost every other user on this website.

i dont remember it quite that way at all, but you are never going to admit your foolish actions.

Oh the hypocrisy.