What do you guys think about this?
@green_skaar: Is that the comic when Hulk was amped? Thor says "you're better than me" , Hulk says "I know"... then Thor throws him into Orbit?
Thor all day.
no, he wasnt amped, because he wasnt feeding off the fear he was later, when he was more powerful.
also, a bfr, good for thor, that means just about nothing to anyone
W/O Mjolnir he’s
1: dented the Silver Surfer whereas the Hulk could never
2: one spotted a demon stated to be as strong as the Hulk
3: one shotted Abomination who can fight toe to toe with the Hulk
With Mjolnir he’s
faught on par with Zeus _King Sized Annual Thor #7 the same Zeus who turned Hulk into a puddle of green blood without using any of his powers_Incredible Hulks #622, Thor injured Thanos and briefly contended with him same Thanos who one punched Indestructible Hulk, Indestructible Hulk was then beaten by Proxima Midnight who is much weaker than Thanos _Avengers Infinity, he's humiliated Ironman in Thor (2007) #3 meanwhile Ironman has beaten your multiversal savior _Ironman #132 and went been able to hurt and take hits from him on three other occasions (Hulk Smash Avengers, Avengers Assemble (2012) #4, and Avengers Season 1), Hulk's never been able to dent the Silver Surfer (even when he was weakened on Sakar) while Thor did that to him in Thor (2011) #5 and that Silver Surfer was amped after Annihilation which makes this even more impressive, World War Hulk was unable to break Emma Frost's diamond form meanwhile Thor has no problem shattering PHOENIX Emma's diamond form, young Thor (who wasn't worthy of Mjolnir) one hit bodied a monster who was stated to be as strong as the Hulk _God of Thunder #23, Abomination a creature who can go blow for blow with Hulk was one hit knocked out by Thor who DIDNT EVEN HAVE MJOLNIR, and in the Sentry solo sires the Void EFFORTLESSLY broke every bone in Hulk's body which required him to spend several days healing while Thor killed the Void in Siege #4 keep in mind Sentry wanted to die but Void did not. So don't go their.
That guy doesn't know anything if im correct he sayed that Hulk lifted mjollnir in the comics where this was never the case i don't think i agree with even one argument of his
Back to the question: it depends
In their first fight Hulk struggles to take mjollnir out of thor while using both hands and his leg
Immortal hulk is stronger than any form of base Thor (as is WWH i think)
Thor lifting feats are better than Hulks (and thats not even his focal point).Unless you count hulk lifting the weight of a star and then turbing back to banner... but even then it kinda shows a limit where Thor's doesn't he did his more casually.
Striking...well with Mjollnir vs base Hulk it goes without saying but mjollnir-less Thor and Hulk are a better match. Thor has one shoted hulk level beings with his punches before
I think they are more or less equal, you can present a case where one or another is stronger, but most of the times they really are not.
People however downplay both to oblivion: base Thor is more downplayed than base hulk and hulk stronger forms for some reason are much more downplayed that Thor's
I myself want to do an thread defending base Thor against base Hulk in this site bcs hulk fans did a much better defense of their character whereas Thor fans...didn't to keep it short
In the ultimate universe for example there is a fenomenal case for Thor being much stronger/able to win fights than Hulk but you don't see any Thor fans bringing it up...
In the Mcu: no but it is different than most people say
In the MCU hulk is indeed stronger than base Thor, and the difference only grows with time but people saylike he is 2 the god of thunder strengh at base but that is not true
People see the scene of Thor holding Hulk arms and got that Hulk is 2x him, but he just blocked one arm strike with one arm and then put his arms around hulk's and Hulk can't get out in the way that Thor was locking him so he just goes the way that thor wasnt putting much force, up
In skarr however hulk got to be like much stronger than Thors
@deactivated-5a694c5def8ac: I think Thor is more powerful but he should be stronger as well. He was created to be Hulk's superior. But for the most part he has not really lived up to that name.
He was also created to be wiser than Reed Richards but that idea got discarded fairly quickly. Comics change and evolve over time. I don't think there is a single writer at Marvel nowadays that would say Thor is physically stronger than Hulk. I think that ship has sailed long ago.
Even in Thors own book in Mighty Thor 385 which happened in 1987 and was actually written by Stan Lee himself had Hulk beat up a hammerless Thor and that was some 30 years ago, since then Hulk has only grown stronger, while Thor hasn't.
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