Is Thor out of his prime in God of War: Ragnarok?

I actually want to see the moment Thor shook the nine realms while fighting the world serpent.

@ready_4_madness: Ah, whereabouts are you? Do not read my OP if you haven't completed it yet.

@ready_4_madness: Ah well then you're still well past the beginning fight with Thor. Thor is not doubt still strong as Hel and a formidable opponent but you can already tell that he's not as powerful as he was when he shook the nine realms during his battle with the serpent. I imagine that back in his glory days, he wasn't fat but actually had a muscular build.

@ready_4_madness: If you only just left Alfheim, you still have a ways to go. I'll say you're 30% done perhaps, I know there's about 17 main missions and some are a lot longer than others.

He was definitely out of his prime, mentality wise. He had enough from Odin, probably long before Ragnarok

I don't think power level depends on physical apparence, since they already have divine levels of strength, durability and stamina to bust universes etc that it's impossible to calculate with using physics.

I think it's possible, but if he is, it's probably mostly psychologically, which can be incredibly important in GoW tbf.

His physique probably isn't evidence given that Kratos kind of lays out the disparity between the physique of Gods and their stats at one point. IIRC he notes that his (Kratos') strength does not come from his muscles. It's mentioned that while Atreus will one day have the strength of a God (as Baldur did, regardless of his size) but that to get a physique like Kratos' he will have to earn it.

Plus Thor's build is not exactly a bulging, loose kind of fat; he has a strong man physique.

All that said, we do know that the psychology of Gods can drastically effect their powers. Kratos early on in the new games was basically "out of shape" and weaker due to both mentally restricting his power (rage) and simply not having had to really thrown down like that in so long.

In GoW IV he had to dig deep and bring back out the reserves he really hadn't had the need to use in a long, long time. It's very likely that this drunken and depressed Thor whose heart was no longer really in it was in a similar way.

And going into GoW: R, Thor probably hasn't had a proper fight in over a century. Since the wars with the Vanir I suppose.

If anything he should be better since he went sober.

@greysentinel365: Don't you mean he was better when he was sober? He was not sober in Ragnarok.

@akz: Not really but I can understand your frustration if you want to figure it out for yourself.

@rogueshadow: Great answer

@ghostodoofus2: He was on a sober streak going into Ragnorak following Magni and Modi’s deaths. Multiple references are made to him stopping drinking. Odin saying he’s no longer fun, Thrud saying that she thought they were past this etc etc.

He gets drunk once in Ragnorak. Then he reinforces his sobriety after his daughter dresses him down. He’s fine for the end battle.

During which he’s fighting for his home and family against what he thinks is a genocidal pantheon killer. Thor at the end of Ragnorak is prime.

@rogueshadow: Makes sense, now that I think about it pretty much every pro strongman has similar body shapes at the peak of their careers: Hafthor Bjornsson, Eddie Hall, Brian Show etc. because they needed to eat a lot to maintain the huge muscle mass they had.

No reason to think he's 'out of his prime' power wise. He's as strong as he ever has been.

Thor is not doubt still strong as Hel and a formidable opponent but you can already tell that he's not as powerful as he was when he shook the nine realms during his battle with the serpent.

Based on what exactly? Absolutely nothing indicates that he's not as powerful as he was before and he's certainly depicted to be an extremely formidable opponent in the game.

I believe the Thor in Ragnarok was a far cry from the one who wiped out the giants and shook the nine realms, I believe Kratos only beat an out-of-prime Thor.

If he can give perform the feats that he did in Ragnarok he is definitely still powerful enough to genocide the giants and shake the nine realms.

@ready_4_madness: Shit.

He imo wasn’t at his best in the final fight he fell back into the bottle, was overcome with rage and fought sloppy plus maybe even a little suicidal.

I think his strength and power were there throughout though.

1. Earlier Thor could only stalemate the World Serpent.
2. Ragnarok Thor won on a technicality but won nonetheless.

Cut and dry.

@areneacaulem: yep