Is the defeat of Satoru Gojo a PIS?

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Yeah, yeah... one could say i'm just a delusional fan the death of the character i'm found of. Tbf, that would not be too far from the truth.

But it keeps bugging me how Gege made the death of one of the strongest character in the verse and then proceeds to make characters weaker than him to dodge or survive the same attack.

People that survived the Cut that Severs the World.

Hakime Kashimo - Dodged it

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Higuruma - Didn't really do much. We could assume Sukuna was just toying with him.

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Yuta Okkotsu - Took it point blanck, but still in one piece and alive from what we can see

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Maki Zen'in - Dodged it and pretty easily actually

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Satoru Gojo a.k.a, the strongest Sorcerer - Dead without a moment for reaction. Does that makes sense?

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>loses to the strongest being ever
>"guys, this is bullshit right?"

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#3 Supreme101  Online

Sukuna is said to be going easy on them as well as the fact his output plummeted. We also don't know how the sequence happened.

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#4  Edited By LucasCosta

Sukuna is said to be going easy on them as well as the fact his output plummeted. We also don't know how the sequence happened.

That is another thing that doesn't set right for me.

It is stated Sukuna needs hand signs and chants to perform the Cut that Servers the World. In fact, we see him performing at least the chanting every time he used it so far.

What implies Gojo let he perform the chant in front of him and still didn't have any kind of reaction.

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#5  Edited By PlatinumChalice

Gojo was arrogant, he would've avoided it if he knew what it was.

I don't think Sukuna used the spatial dismantle to Yuta.

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Gojo was arrogant, he would've avoided it if he knew what it was.

I don't think Sukuna used the spatial dismantle to Yuta.

He said the same words for when he slashed at everyone else so it should have been world cutting dismantle.

Also even if Gojo was arrogant, the 6 eyes should have allowed him to see what was happen with Sukuna's CT. So he would have noticed the change in CE and his CT, saw Sukuna chanting and throwing up gang signs and just stood there and did nothing.

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Gojo was arrogant, he would've avoided it if he knew what it was.

I don't think Sukuna used the spatial dismantle to Yuta.

That is belieavable, but still he had just lost one arm to the same cut when it was used by Mahoraga. It feel kinda stupid of him to just let Sukuna's slash connect after that.

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Yeah, the shenanigans going with Heian Sukuna are making Go/jo look like an incompetent buffoon.

Granted, current Sukuna is nerfed. So depending on whether that affected World Slash or not could excuse what happened with Yuta & Maki.

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Yeah, the shenanigans going with Heian Sukuna are making Go/jo look like an incompetent buffoon.

Granted, current Sukuna is nerfed. So depending on whether that affected World Slash or not could excuse what happened with Yuta & Maki.

The Sukuna Hit by Hollow Purple was even More Nerfed.

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I wouldn't call it PIS. As in, you'd have to call the introduction of Mahoraga PIS, which I don't think is the case.

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Gege is just a bad writer, take the L as a reader and move on.

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Here's reasons why he should've dodged it

-Cursed Energy spark before attacks are launched, he's seen Mahoraga do it before so Sukuna's must've been similar yet he didn't dodge it

-Six Eyes

Here's counters to that

-Gojo can't react to Cleave or Dismantle we've seen it from Mahoraga's Slash, Sukuna's slash aimed at the Building behind Gojo, and now the world slash.

-Gojo wouldn't know that the attack Sukuna shot off would be Capable of Bypassing Infinity.

Kashimo ended up getting Blitzed by Normal Dismantles afterwards so he doesn't scale to the speed of the world slash, higuruma is self explanatory, Same with Yuta, and Maki does have a form of Pre Cog so that would help a bit.

All of these people had knowledge on the Slash, Gojo didn't since he was unfortunately the first to go up against it

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We've been told that he can use a binding vow instead of the chants and hand signs. Seems like that's what was used. We don't know what he sacrificed for it yet tho.

Gojo had just landed a big purple on Sukuna, restored his output, was operating at 120% because of that black flash and destroyed what he thought was Sukuna's main offense against Infinity. Even the students and sorcerers watching that fight thought Gojo had won. That's the kind of scenario that leads to people being cocky and getting caught off-guard.

He had no reason to believe Sukuna's dismantle had the capacity to cut through infinity. All the people obsessing over the "sparks" and coping with "Mahoraga used it on him before" are ignoring that Sukuna just used Maho's attack as a blueprint. He didn't change the nature of the CT itself to match Maho, he just the target. There's no reason to believe that causes changes to how the CT would look from Gojo's POV.

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#16  Edited By GreyTheJiren

Yes.

Somehow someway Sukuna pulled a technique out his ass that was a direct counter to Infinity. This is the same as when Higuruma's Domain ignored Sukuna's Innate technique and removed his cursed tool. The plot finds a way to make Sukuna work by any means necessary.

These two instances I mentioned are just comically stupid.

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-Gojo wouldn't know that the attack Sukuna shot off would be Capable of Bypassing Infinity.

Even after Mahoraga by passed it?

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We've been told that he can use a binding vow instead of the chants and hand signs. Seems like that's what was used. We don't know what he sacrificed for it yet tho.

Gojo had just landed a big purple on Sukuna, restored his output, was operating at 120% because of that black flash and destroyed what he thought was Sukuna's main offense against Infinity. Even the students and sorcerers watching that fight thought Gojo had won. That's the kind of scenario that leads to people being cocky and getting caught off-guard.

He had no reason to believe Sukuna's dismantle had the capacity to cut through infinity. All the people obsessing over the "sparks" and coping with "Mahoraga used it on him before" are ignoring that Sukuna just used Maho's attack as a blueprint. He didn't change the nature of the CT itself to match Maho, he just the target. There's no reason to believe that causes changes to how the CT would look from Gojo's POV.

So you're saying there is no difference between the Sparkle of a normal Dismantle and one capable of Cutting the World?

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@lucascosta: there hasn't been any real confirmation either way. Also, even if there is a difference, why would that matter? That still wouldn't mean Gojo would suddenly think that the attack could bypass infinity.

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That's what happens when you write your characters to have BS hax, the only way to beat them is pull even more BS counter out of nowhere .

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@gaoron said:

That's what happens when you write your characters to have BS hax, the only way to beat them is pull even more BS counter out of nowhere .

Nonsense, Sukuna had legitimate ways to beat Gojo before the match ever began, there was no need to come up with something.