Is the Arrowverse really inferior to Netflix MCU?

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At least in MCU there are no Jay Garricks.

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@ganon15: For the most part? Yes. Flash is good, Arrow is stale and Legends hasn't clicked just yet.

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Lool no. I love the Netflix shows but their grounded reality minimises the amount of feats they have stacking up to the CW verse.

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They are meant for different audiences.

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Uh yes. Especially in the writing department. Both Flash and Arrow have gone completely off the rails, LoT is just plain awful and Supergirl is meh.

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Jessica Jones is so much better than Arrow that it isn't even funny.

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Yes but the netflix MCU feels different, because every episode is released so I watch it in almost one view. The others span through months, they are more like routine (almost like normal comics).

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Netflix feels more serious. Too much filler on Arrow. I wouldn't use the word inferior, I would say different.

Weakness of Netflix is that many of the side characters don't have their own character arcs and are just there to serve the story of the main hero so you may not be fully invested in them.

Weakness of CW is filler. Too much god damn filler...I hate that ish with Naruto and I hate it here.

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And LOT Jesus can anything important happen on this show? It's kind of boring and they seem to be making 0 progress with the mission.

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@rubear: I like both Daredevil and the Flash but I chuckled IRL.

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Yea I think the Netflix verse is getting up there.

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I can only speak on behalf of Marvel's Jessica Jones but even alone it outshines the Arrowverse. I think it'd be more fair if you included Agent Carter and Agents of Shield to the MCU side even though they aren't Netflix shows.

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Yes

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#16  Edited By Royal_Warrior

Both MCU Netflix series have actual amazing plot, storylines and acting

Don't get me wrong I do like the CWverse but honestly it's complete shite if you view it from not a fan perspective

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#17  Edited By SamJackson

Lool no. I love the Netflix shows but their grounded reality minimises the amount of feats they have stacking up to the CW verse.

What does having better feats have to do with being a better show?

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Yes despite AoS

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I think that Netflix MCU is a lot more grounded and realistic in its depictions and characters. It also has more solid storylines and seems to finish a longer storyline rather then having a bunch of small ones. This is probably due to the format. Netflix series are released as whole seasons so they are better able to tackle longer and more complex storylines

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In some ways, but I wouldn't say completely. Daredevil is fantastic but Jessica Jones was boring to the point of almost being a waste of time.

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Yes.

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Plain and simple yes. Arrow went downhill fast and by the looks of it isn't stopping till it reaches hell. Legends of tommorrow suffers from almost all the arrow problems from the get go and Flash, is the only one that can put up a fight since its the most different from the rather grounded Netflix shows, but is mostly consistend of inconsequential filler.

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Duh. The Marvel Netflix shows are top notch. The DC CW shows pale in comparison.

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Daredevil is the better show in general, but Flash is the better superhero show, if you get what I'm saying.

If this is about feats, then CWverse >>>>>>>>>>> MCU Netflix characters.

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#25  Edited By MarvinJones

Arrow is running fumes at this point, they're reusing villains from last season. I like the first two season of Arrow, I really did. But bow it seems like the only mind blowing episodes are the crossovers, and that can't work. It has a lot of filler too. Flash is a cool show, but there's like 6 different people wearing the same face, and if anything goes seriously wrong, Barry's just gonna time travel, so it holds no weight. LoT has a lot of potential for this season, I'm not sure what they'll do beyond it though. I don't like how they killed off two members before episode ten. It makes it seem like by the finale they'll only be a couple members left to fight Savage and everyone might die.

Daredevil and Jessica Jones are so good because they're so grounded in reality, at least before DD season 2. It just feels like a separate street level universe that'll only grow with Luke Cage and Iron Fist and eventually the Defenders. The problem I see with Netflix Marvel is that the lack of crossovers before the Defenders will really hurt them, like phase one of the MCU.

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Daredevil destroyed the arrowverse

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Arrow was pretty good until it became the Falicity Smoak show. God do I hate that character. Flash I really like, but not as much as AOS, Daredevil, and JJ

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MCU Netflix is critically better. But in terms of enjoyment I like them pretty equally.

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Inferior in terms of what?

I think Daredevil and Jessica Jones are great, but I also think Flash is great. Arrow's...decent, and Legends of Tomorrow is mediocre. If we're talking about quality I'd say it's inferior, but if we're talking about a cohesive universe, the Netflix MCU still needs to interact and build more before it feels like the Arrowverse.

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Even if you don't like the Netflix series I honestly don't see how you can't see how it's still superior to the Arrow universe. Not to say you can't still enjoy the Arrow universe, it's just that it's not quality. It's more popcorn.

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Seasons 1 and 2 of Arrow are some of the best seasons of a TV show I have seen. Daredevil season 2 was right up there with Arrow season 1 and 2, I do love the Flash as well. Legends on the other hand is decent/medicore while Jessica Jones is one of the most boring shows I have ever watched.

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Arrowverse is the cheapest writing and cinematography and acting you can get. Yes.

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this is kinda of a dumb question . Arrowverse is on TV so it is more family friendly , now if you put a show like Arrow on Netflix? it could arguably be the best show , we can see a more gore-like deathstroke and a less family friendly Oliver who probably kills more than he saves (i have no problem with his no kill rule on the show) , you put a show like DD or Jessica jones on TV and it would be awful , that's what a lot of yo guys on this site don't get

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In some ways, but I wouldn't say completely. Daredevil is fantastic but Jessica Jones was boring to the point of almost being a waste of time.

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Seasons 1 and 2 of Arrow are some of the best seasons of a TV show I have seen. Daredevil season 2 was right up there with Arrow season 1 and 2, I do love the Flash as well. Legends on the other hand is decent/medicore while Jessica Jones is one of the most boring shows I have ever watched.

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#42  Edited By novi_homines

Definitely. From the cinematography, to the writing and storytelling. MCU Netflix is just on a different level, and its not even close in my opinion.

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@samjackson: oh...we were talking about show quality?

Daredevil

Flash

Arrow

Jessica Jones

My personal opinion

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#44  Edited By FearTheLiving

Yup. The Netflix shows are all quality the same can't be said for the majority of the CWverse. Hell Agents of SHIELD is my favorite of the Network Comic based TV shows from DC or Marvel.

  1. Daredevil
  2. Jessica Jones
  3. Agents of SHIELD
  4. Flash
  5. Agent Carter
  6. Constantine
  7. Supergirl
  8. Arrow
  9. Gotham

(Shows based on their quality up until this point)

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@goonage said:

Uh yes. Especially in the writing department. Both Flash and Arrow have gone completely off the rails, LoT is just plain awful and Supergirl is meh.

People act like writing is the only thing that goes into a show. 'Daredevil' is paced like a snail, and while 'Arrow' and 'Flash' have filler that's actually interesting, the filler in 'Daredevil' is like friggin DBZ with characters looking around for 25 seconds, and just talking slower and quieter about things they already talked slowly and quietly about previously.

So pacing goes to the CW. That's one advantage we have to give.

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My personal list:

  1. Arrow
  2. Jessica Jones
  3. Daredevil
  4. Legends of Tomorrow
  5. Flash

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No, but currently Arrow is the worst CB show on tv. It's sad when iZombie is a better show.

Daredevil and Flash are apples and oranges and I like both apples and oranges.

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It goes like this:

  1. Daredevil.
  2. Flash.
  3. Everything else.
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@dankhan6 said:

MCU Netflix is critically better. But in terms of enjoyment I like them pretty equally.

This times a million. While anyone can tell MCU Netflix is better, TV is meant to be enjoyed. You can enjoy a show even if its not objectively a good show. It doesn't have to always be a competition.

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#50  Edited By quantum-savage

Daredevil makes the rest of these look like a 5/10 max show, besides Arrow