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Posted by modernww2fare (6354 posts) 11 months, 9 days ago

Poll: Is Man of Steel visually the best DCEU movie so far? (29 votes)

Yes 59%
No 41%
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#1 Posted by deactivated-59e2a0eac9b65 (148 posts) - - Show Bio

BvS looked a lot better.

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#2 Posted by deltahuman (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

BvS had certain scenes that were as beautifully shot as some MoS scenes.

Consider the Metropolis battle from BvS. The one from MoS focussed more on Clark and Zod. You saw the sequence from the perspective of the Kryptonians. The destruction was an after effect of what they had done. In BvS you see the same scene but from the point of view of somebody on the ground. You focus more on the destruction caused, the chaos. You feel the fear.. The ripples of the destruction caused when Men fall from the sky, when God's exchange punches on earth. I believe that sequence from BvS was comparable to the battle between Clark and Zod. Also the presence of Ben Affleck and his vengeance filled eyes enhance it further.

Other scenes like Bruce's parents funeral scene, the dream sequence involving rogue superman, scenes of Bruce's glass house etc were very beautifully shot too. Superman's funeral was the best shot sequence from the movie though. From the minute he's killed, the background score changes to an eerie sound, the dust settles and the news of Superman's death dawns upon you. The beautifully shot Scottish funeral scene starts soon after with the bagpipes and the iridescent sunlight along with the parallely going on state funeral. I found it to very very aesthetic.

But yes, MoS had comparatively better shot scenes. One reason is because it was able to show diverse terrain. Snyder could depict Krypton. Many people don't know this but the parent star of Krypton was changed from being a redsupergiant which is what the comic book star is to a red dwarf star for scientific accuracy. Red dwarf's fit better into the story because they have much lesser luminosity than a main sequence star like our Sun. If you know basic cosmology, you'll be familiar. Anywho Snyder had a better canvas to experiment in Mos. Jonathan's farm scene where he talks to young Clark is very well shot. The scene where a bearded Clark wakes up floating in the sea and steals clothes is well shot. The Scene where he tests his limits after Space Dad's pep talk is probably the most well shot scene. You could feel the air blowing past Clark as he flies around the earth from the arctic to the African Savannahs to space in hyper speed. Then there are the battle sequences. Some would say those were pure destruction porn. But from an aesthetic point of view you can't help but admire the beauty. The cinematography in MoS was better. BvS was too dark for the scenes to be fully appreciated. I would love the cinematography of Justice league to resemble MoS more. Repeating BvS's boring at times cinematography would be a big mistake.

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#3 Posted by plotweapon16255 (5372 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah.

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#4 Posted by from_beyond (744 posts) - - Show Bio

Action in MOS was better looking overall. BVS wins in every other category.

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#5 Posted by Galactic_1000 (5037 posts) - - Show Bio

JL will surpass Mos

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#6 Posted by The_Magister (11695 posts) - - Show Bio

By far, imo.

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#7 Posted by adamTRMM (7914 posts) - - Show Bio

BvS had certain scenes that were as beautifully shot as some MoS scenes.

Consider the Metropolis battle from BvS. The one from MoS focussed more on Clark and Zod. You saw the sequence from the perspective of the Kryptonians. The destruction was an after effect of what they had done. In BvS you see the same scene but from the point of view of somebody on the ground. You focus more on the destruction caused, the chaos. You feel the fear.. The ripples of the destruction caused when Men fall from the sky, when God's exchange punches on earth. I believe that sequence from BvS was comparable to the battle between Clark and Zod. Also the presence of Ben Affleck and his vengeance filled eyes enhance it further.

Oh yeah... It brought such a great cause and effect feeling you rarely see in cinema.

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#8 Edited by deltahuman (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamtrmm:

Exactly.

Fact is, when you begin to understand cinema. the art, the creativity and the vision behind each scene, you notice beauty and a feeling of completeness in subtle things. I'm a big fan of Snyder's visual style. His vision. Part of which I attribute to better I understanding the vision behind his work that most people fail to do. He has a long way to go to become perfect. But he has a unique style which has its own sense of aesthetic pleasure.

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#9 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

Man of Steel/BvS is visually the best cbm.

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#10 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (12549 posts) - - Show Bio

BvS edges it but MOS is comfortably the best DCEU movie.

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#11 Posted by adamTRMM (7914 posts) - - Show Bio

@deltahuman:

I've been a big appreciator of Snyder's quite a time before DCEU and honestly, the first movie he directed and left me disappointed was Man of Steel... yep. It still made me want to watch it again and again, and eventually I even grew to appreciate it more, still in terms of storytelling it left a lot to be desired when it comes to execution. The visuals, the action, the costumes, the actors, the aesthetics, the entourage, the score - all outstanding, no need to even discuss such an already well-discussed topics. But in terms of grounded reimagination of Superman mythos and the questions it dared to ask, they raised the bar so high, that eventually when your expectations are off the charts they kind of failed to deliver the answers of the same scope, and this failure's impact was felt. I very much appreciate what it tried to do, but I'm also disappointed it couldn't live up to its own hype. With theatrical cut of BvS it was more of the same, but ultimate cut was the Snyder I was glad to see back! Eisenberg was still a miscast though, damn it, but there was one scene that made me at least want to appreciate this incarnation of the character for what it is.

But if there's something I'd love to see with Snyder's growth as a director, it's his lesser dependency on green screen and embrace of a more classic approach.

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#12 Posted by StellatedColt (706 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't decide, to be honest. While I don't like BvS that much, I do enjoy a lot of scenes in the movie. Although, I absolutely love MoS and still rank that of WW. I gonna give it a slight edge because of preference.

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#13 Posted by deltahuman (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamtrmm:

There are 3 aspects of BvS I didn't like

1. Eissenberg (I liked the philosophy, the motivation, the dialogues that were written for him. Absolutely brilliant. But I didn't like Jesse Eisenberg's version of Luthor one bit. Luthor is a cold calculating genius not a eccentric genius like Einsenberg's Luthor who looked like he came from a cartoon)

2. Huge number of subplots (way to many subplots crammed into a batman v Superman movie. Too much hype and expectations didn't help either)

3. A moping Superman (honestly the guy didn't smile even once. Maybe once before he died but that's about it)

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#14 Posted by Gotoucanario (2888 posts) - - Show Bio

It's pretty close to BvS to me, voted yes but truthfully I am not sure. BvS had some beautiful shots.

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#15 Posted by adamTRMM (7914 posts) - - Show Bio

@deltahuman:

1. Eissenberg (I liked the philosophy, the motivation, the dialogues that were written for him. Absolutely brilliant. But I didn't like Jesse Eisenberg's version of Luthor one bit. Luthor is a cold calculating genius not a eccentric genius like Einsenberg's Luthor who looked like he came from a cartoon)

Well, I have to agree here as I said. Billy Zane is my personal fancast for Luthor, and just to strengthen what you said about how Lex is supposed to be - every sentence, expression, or move he does is undecipherable component of utterly complex formulas and algorithms which is life itself as he sees it.

2. Huge number of subplots (way to many subplots crammed into a batman v Superman movie. Too much hype and expectations didn't help either)

The subplots I didn't like personally were:

1. Lex's files on what becomes the JL, hell he even had their symbols! It was just bad. Passively, it makes him a JL founder I guess. lolz

2. Flash's warning/Knigntmare/dream sequence. The Flash's one I guess was supposed to be a misdirecting move, or was it something more? One thing is certain, it makes you question its general motive in universe and it completely ignores it later on. Knightmare, once again it is supposed to build up the paranoia, but how come its Superman had a very specific motivation hinting on its almost prophetic nature? It felt too direct to be an accident. So what was that even about? Why dropping those bombs without clearing up the area later?

3. Mercy. Maybe that's more of a general complaint though, she was pretty close to Lex and offing her to make him look like a scumbag was a weak point considering he already sanctioned deaths of so many.

4. Doomsday. Regardless of Superman's fate in the outcome of his clash with Batman, Doomsday was about to be born, but if say Batman did kill Superman, why exactly does this thing even needed? There's a fan theory that claims Steppenwolf ordered it, in this context it makes sense, but the movie never explains it.

3. A moping Superman (honestly the guy didn't smile even once. Maybe once before he died but that's about it)

To me it worked on a symbolic level. It was Superman in the domain of utter cynicism, double standards and darkness. Every step he did could've been interpreted in so many ways by so many people it was crazy, and in that vein, Snyder captured real life perceptions perfectly. It was Superman completely consumed by night (and visually it exactly what was reflected) and the entities of night, with one specific entity above all others. He wasn't supposed to smile because some people did everything in their power to make him sure that "nothing stays good in this world".

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5a89ca5697052 (8063 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

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#17 Posted by Heatforce (4864 posts) - - Show Bio

Well since BvS included scenes from MoS...

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#18 Posted by DeathandGrim (4394 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes I genuinely enjoyed the cinematography of MOS. It was the most comic book a CBM could be imo.

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#19 Posted by MAZAHS117 (11138 posts) - - Show Bio

I think BvS looks better, but not by very much tho

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#20 Posted by Puny_Banner (1025 posts) - - Show Bio

BvS looked better in my opinion.

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#21 Posted by Transformaa (1075 posts) - - Show Bio

Bvs had more Imax shots!..visually it was made to be better looking...Imax is super expensive...mos had no imax film..Still both look hella good!

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#22 Posted by Mrnoital (7533 posts) - - Show Bio

I have a lot of trouble with this, every single DCEU movie yet has been visually stunning

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#24 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

personally my favourite overall DCEU movie so far. Might actually be my favourite movie among MCU and DCEU