Is Kaguya a planet-buster?

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Poll Is Kaguya a planet-buster? (68 votes)

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Yeah no, nice try though. Hell, she probably isn't even Multi-Country Level...

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Maybe, it is basically the same as asking if Boros is one.

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I don't think she can one-shot an Earth-sized planet. Given enough time she could probably destroy one though.

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I believe she is

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Well, she is confirmed by her Will materialized to be, she is confirmed by Official Sources such as the Fourth Databook to be one, she possess far more Chakra than the Juubi which was showed in the Sensing Sphere to dwarf the Shinobi Alliance when they were reunited, 100 + Random Shinobis when charged their chakra were going to destroy and teleport the Moon, I don't see why she wouldn't be, yes by feats, she isn't one, but by statements and scale she sure is.

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@joviolma said:

Well, she is confirmed by her Will materialized to be, she is confirmed by Official Sources such as the Fourth Databook to be one, she possess far more Chakra than the Juubi which was showed in the Sensing Sphere to dwarf the Shinobi Alliance when they were reunited, 100 + Random Shinobis when charged their chakra were going to destroy and teleport the Moon, I don't see why she wouldn't be, yes by feats, she isn't one, but by statements and scale she sure is.

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She is in the mind or rabid fanboys.

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actually, yes

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No proof she is.

For all we know that attack could have hit like a revenge Death ball that did some damage.

And Baby was hyping that attack up like it was going to do sever damage.

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#10  Edited By JuzaCloud

Read what the Scan says

This "Root Time-Space" is mother's "exclusive domain" where she can extract chakra from shinobi trapped in Infinite Tsukiyomi.

she can only produce a truth seeker orb of this magnitude in the "Root Time-Space". she can't do it in the acid time-space, ice time-space, or lava time-space.

Neither can she produce this level of a truth seeker orb in the regular Naruto world. So under specific circumstances and prep she can engulf a planetoid of unknown size with a truth seeker orb in the Root time-space.

inside root time-space=planetoid

outside root time-space=around large country DC

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@codevein: it's not an attack that you throw and it explodes. The "expansive truth seeker orb" increases in size to engulf and erase matter so that it can create new matter. it tells you this in the next scan, but the Topic Host didn't post it. and she can only do this in the "Root time-space" which is the dimension you see in that scan.

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@codevein: Yes, she can erase and recreate her own pocket dimensions using expansive truthseeker orb. but she has to be in her "root time-space" to do this. specific circumstances and prep needs to be established.

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@juzacloud: So a weaker more Restricted Version of Ea on low output?

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@codevein: Ea? the only Ea I'm familiar with is the DBS character or supreme Kai of universe 3.

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@codevein: Ea? the only Ea I'm familiar with is the DBS character or supreme Kai of universe 3.

Low output charge of Ea.

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#17  Edited By JuzaCloud

@codevein: I had to briefly look up what Ea is. but yeah, the end result is the same as both abilities destroy time-space, but just a different technique on how they do it.

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Maybe, it is basically the same as asking if Boros is one.

That thread is why I made this.

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@juzacloud: Yeah Ea destroys dimensions at low output charge.

Max Output and it threatens Earth by tearing apart the Fabric and Anchor that holds it together and peeling it back to reveal the Genesis of the world.

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I don't think so but I do think that she has more destructive capability than she's generally given credit for considering she's far above everyone else in the series.

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#21  Edited By TheOriginalOne

If we use the ETSB, then maybe. If we use the attacks she showed in the series, AKA her feats, not even close. She would barely be large country - continental buster.

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I don't think so but I do think that she has more destructive capability than she's generally given credit for considering she's far above everyone else in the series.

Logically, this should be 100% true. Feat wise, Nope.

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This thread...

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Only on mondays.

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#25  Edited By Sungsam

So basically Kaguya has some level of multiversal/trans-dimensional power of unknown scale and size. We just don't know how large each of these dimensions that she creates or erases, are. Which leads to the controversy.

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@sungsam: We don't even know if "My dimensions" means: "The dimensions i created", or "My territories"

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#27  Edited By FullMetalEmprah

@theoriginalone: Yeah but to be fair she never actually got the ETSB off, which is really the problem. It's almost like it is a feat but also not one at the same time. We can use anything ranging from multi-country to planetary but it's still just a guess, however I honestly think this whole discussion of whether she can bust a planet or not is somewhat irrelevant. The ETSB is a MASSIVE hax attack so pretty much anyone on Kaguya's level or even somewhat above it is screwed if they're hit by it unless they have feats of resisting something similar.

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@fullmetalemprah: That is why I say that with the ETSB, she is but without, she is nowhere near that level.

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Kaguya is more like Yhwach with this statement rather than Boros or SA Vegeta.

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Small Planet level

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@sungsam said:

So basically Kaguya has some level of multiversal/trans-dimensional power of unknown scale and size. We just don't know how large each of these dimensions that she creates or erases, are. Which leads to the controversy.

Pretty much.

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inb4 this turns into Naruto vs Bleach...for some reason. lmfao

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inb4 this turns into Naruto vs Bleach...for some reason. lmfao

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@joviolma: Could you provide these official sources that explicitly say she’s a planet buster?

I’ve never seen em, but if they really do exist I’ll have to adjust my opinions accordingly

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#35  Edited By Adi_Frost

With ETSB she was stated to be able to destroy the dimension which contained a planet and the dimension was at least the size of a planet + a moon.

But ETSB requires chakra from the shinobi alliance and that amount of chakra can only be collected in her root-time space.

So logically, she shouldn't be able to replicate this in her other dimensions and also, her normal attacks aren't close to planetary.
Only ETSB is.

Also ETSB is a massive hax which destroys matter, time and space itself and then recreates it so it's destructive capability only depends on how big the ETSB can get regardless of the durability of said object that it destroys.

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No.

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I don't think so but I do think that she has more destructive capability than she's generally given credit for considering she's far above everyone else in the series.

Pretty much this.

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#38  Edited By Streak619

Yes

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Yes, but only with ETSB.

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Yeah no, nice try though. Hell, she probably isn't even Multi-Country Level...

Bruh, that’s a bit of a low ball dont you think. Based on her chakra she should be at least country level.

Ot: by statements she could life wipe a planet.

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@adi_frost: Exactly what you said. Heck, I would argue the attacks she showed in the manga are below Naruto's DC.

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Whilst amped and prepped sure

Normally hell no.

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#45  Edited By FaradaySloth
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@theoriginalone: She doesn't have much feats that showcase her DC. Logically she should be above Naruto but she doesn't have the feats other than destroying sasuke's perfect susasnoo and ETSB. This could be because Kaguya doesn't have DC based techniques like BB (i assume she doesn't) or RasenShuriken but rather is more of a physical and hax based fighter.

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@adi_frost: But that would still mean her DC is below Naruto's.

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The lowball is real...

ETSB creates an entire time-space that engulfs the "dimension" which can mean just the planet or the planet and the Sun. (the entire realm would be a no limits fallacy and clearly disagrees with scaling). She probably would've said "planet" if it only engulfs the planet, but we are just going to lowball that anyway.

Yes she did absorb the Shinobi World chakra to produce it. But remember Kaguya already absorbed some of it when she was revived from Madara. The remaining chakra that she was absorbing later in the root time space is no where near the amount of chakra she already had before that. To give some perspective, BSM Naruto was already able to amp the allied forces 3x Kakashi's chakra. It makes no sense to lowball her to below planetary just for this boost since we already lowballed her to planet before that. (even engulfing the planet probably means its going to be larger than it, not just nice as big as the planet)

Creating a time-space requires more chakra than just blowing the planet up into pieces. No feats of blowing up planets =/= she is incapable of doing so. She had no reason to blow up the planet, but the feat proves that she does have the chakra to do so.

Also, the planet that it is engulfing does not help in the expansion. Only chakra fed into it will help to grow it, and that barren wasteland planet clearly has no natural energy left. So yes the planet-sized ETSB can only be credited to Kaguya.

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She definitely is with her Expansive Truth-Seeking Orb as she was going to destroy her entire dimension with it which are all planet-sized.