Is it safe to say that Saitama is now 100% more powerful than Sayian Saga Goku and Vegeta?

Is already an overstatement to say that Saitama would beat any of the Z Warriors after the training with Kami where they can kill Saibamen, either Goku or Vegeta pulverize him.

No Goku and Vegeta still stomp

Vegeta can always go great ape and one shot

He is planet level+, so he should be at there level currently

Also BOZ piccolo is small planet level how is he soloing OPM, when several people from OPM are small planet level and higher

Has he gotten any new feats?

the thing is they can just go in great ape mode and murder stomp the verse with neg diff

@deyyy:

"the thing is they can just go in great ape mode and murder stomp the verse with neg diff"

Aren't they still planet level+ I mean isn't the multiplier for great ape like 10×? By that definition they would still be planet level+

he got some new speed scalling thats all

I mean he was already faster than they were

Saitama's speed already far surpass them while casual, so even if he cant harm them cause "feats" he can simply toss them to space and let them die

But anyway, Saitama is obiously above them

There's still not enough evidence that he can do anything about Goku's strongest kamehameha (outside of dodging but that's ooc for Saitama) but with new speed scaling he should clear saiyan arc easily, ye.

He can probably Blitz them

No. Raditz Saga Piccolo was able to easily vape the Moon with no effort.

Nappa beat the brakes off that Piccolo with ease and was easily matched by Goku even before Kaioken turned that into a stomp.

Vegeta was still easily able to fight Goku despite matching AND overwhelming his Planet destroying Galick Gun even before he went Great Ape.

Saitama would be dusted by Piccolo alone.

We don’t know how strong he is in full power

He could’ve been like 5-10% against Boros for all we know who’s power is controversial and argued to be multi continent level/ planet level.

Opm creator makes saitama fight someone in who has a greater dc feat or a statement feat and because saitama is holding back against him he will always upscale thats the kind of character he is. So all we just have to wait till he fights some new bad guy who Has more impressive feat than Orochi. Or just have a guy destroying a planet in a flashback then have saitama fight him.

Vegeta and Goku's planet level is far more solid.

They scale far higher than pulverising a moon and have planet level statements.

Best feat in OPM so far is Orochi's Gaia Cannon. And it is certainly not planet level or even small planet.

@greythejiren: Yeah I agree. If Orochi Redo chapter isn’t proof enough that they care about the scaling they will definitely do this again in future with another villain and have saitama tank the attack and beat them in typical fashion.

@greythejiren: it’s dam near small planet level, and Saitama overpowered it with his own squirt gun…I don’t get the OPM downplay. Yeah of course there’s a lot of OPM meat riders, but it’s pretty obvious that Saitama has surpassed that stage.

No. Gaia canon is multi continental at best

Its high end of moon+ level, almost basline small planet. And saitama overpowered it with a squirt gun...

it doesn't take a genius to find that 2+2=4.

He would speedblitz and AP stomp them. They have only ki attack DC advantage.

Nappa flexes

^^^

sure ok

He's above Saiyan Saga in terms of speed, and there's already an argument for him beating SS Goku and Vegeta.

@pandalumina: agreed.

@takenstew22: nah no need for that yet. strictly off feats he beats saiyan saga, no need to bump it up more.

nappa gets oneshotted by saitama what am i reading here

From what I understand, he is faster, but not sure how he does tank their strongest attacks. I would say he loses if they are in their full powered states. He can likely beat Goku in his base form at this point though.

If he is planet level and actually FTL+, then yeah, he clears the Saiyan arc.

He clears if he was bloodlusted but I don't think Saitama would blitz In character lmao

There's no downplay in my statement. If you claim an attack is small planet level then you have to show that level of destruction. The energy pushed aside some parts of the earth whilst coming out, if someone calculates that then I am fine, it was very wide. But I am not accepting kinetic energy calcs with absurd values.

The Kinetic force was calculated as planet level and you have yet to debunk the calc instead of saying "I'm not accepting that calc" Because this isn't really an argument either

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:NikHelton/Orochi_breaks_the_Earth%27s_core

Well then thats ur fault for not accepting KE calcs. You think the values absurd purely off feelings, just cuz u aint like it dont mean its wrong. ;(

You do realize DBZ is also scaled of KE calcs...

And Orochis calced feat is just him powering up, it isn't even his attack...

So with that now established, Saitama still scales above Saiyan Saga...

I know, I wasn't trying to say he gets high in Namek Saga or anything.

Ik ik, i mean he clears SS, and now he moves on to the next level.

A planet level attack that didn't destroy a planet, how strange.

No Sayain saga vegeta is FTL+ and was already multi-planetary as a child so as an adult he’s obviously far stronger, Saitama doesn’t even have planet level feats or FTL feats

People still using AoE fallacy in 2022.....You don't need to destroy a Planet to be planet level that's why AP(Attack potency) and DC (Destructive capacity) are completely different and separated, most of the time Fiction doesn't follow the AP = Destructive capacity logic shit and Oroshi isn't dumb to the point where he is gonna aim and destroy a planet he lives on unless he wanna commit suicide of course

I stan you, a DBZ pfp, yet has common sense.

AP=/=DC, and what type of dumbass would aim for the planet he lives on and destroy it...

SS Vegeta barely FTL, and he maxes as planet, unless ur saying he one shots SS Goku 1000 times over. Vegeta always had the upperhand on moon level goku, not by much tho. And not the multiplanetary as a child...

Nope.

You know a verse is powerful when potentially being above the weakest characters in the first arc is a historical achievement for another verse💀

Guess saitama wank is starting up again huh

100% more powerful means twice as powerful

agreed

concession accepted