Is Future Trunks(DBS) the most powerful swordsman in anime yet ?

If he's not, could anyone list some anime swordsman who's even stronger than him, can beat him in a fight ? :)

Depends on what qualifies as a swordsman.

If all it takes to qualify as a swordsmen is owning a sword i guess... Though he could still lose to hax from invisible bleach characters he wouldn't be able to see or touch.

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Pretty much. It's not like Trunks is particularly skilled with it. All he does is swing it around lol

Meh, he can still sense their ki

@rukelnikovftw: lol how and that doesn't mean he can touch them

Law from One Piece. Given enough distance he could take on Trunks.

@stormshadow_x: like he needs to lol, he just Powers up a bit and any of them get crushed

@rukelnikovftw: are you just pulling things out of your arse now?

Universe equalization means ki should be treated as reiatsu

@rukelnikovftw: who said anything about equalization?

@stormshadow_x: Its the only way to go

@rukelnikovftw: it's not though. That's only to make it an actual argument but without hiding behind that like I said in my original Comment most bleach characters that are soul reapers or espadas could stomp a db character barring a few characters because db characters especially Saiyans are just bricks with energy projection.

@stormshadow_x: It is, otherwise you end up with NLF from every other verse, or weird stuff like "death" for Goku being just BFR which he can come back from immediately with Shunkan Ido

@rukelnikovftw: Do you know what NFL means?

Nif Goku went against a bleach character with hax he would lose because he has no feats against such an attack and he can't defend himself.

Nlf would be captain ukikate being able to redirect a ki blast from a db character with his shikai

Tenchi Masaki is better

@rukelnikovftw: what? That logic is the most flawed argument I've ever seen. hax isn't just a broad term, because hired broke out of hits time move doesn't prove anything regarding how a db character would face something like being turned to stone by galan from seven deadly sins

Blue's hypnosis worked on Krillin and Goku, but didn't work on Tao Pai Pai.

Shen Long couldn't affect Nappa and Vegeta because they were too strong.

Chiatzou's stomachache and paralysis could affect 22nd Budokai Krillin and Goku respectively, but failed to affect Nappa.

Candy Beam turned Vegito into a candy, but he could still fly, talk, and fight, everyone else couldn't.

Hit's time skip didn't affect SKKx10 Goku.

Base Goku could barely resist Hakai energy, Golden Frieza could resist it with some trouble, SSBE Vegeta was overpowering it.

In DB world, it works like that

@stormshadow_x: Tbf without equalization of any kind any DBZ/Super character would blitz any Soul Reaper.

@jmarshmallow without equalization?

@rukelnikovftw: And you just can't force db logic on debates in other series especially if they're not equalized.

You're literally using NLF in your own debate after accusing me of it like 2 post ago.

@stormshadow_x: Like Speed Equalization, for example.

If you were to have DBZ High-Tiers face off against Bleach High-Tiers without any equalization, Soul Reapers would get blitzed. Yeah, Bleach has the hax to take them down. But they’d be one-shot by those “bricks with energy projection” before they could blink.

@jmarshmallow: oh yeah man, I'm sorry i m not sure what I thought you meant.

Well of course they could but unless we take away soul reapers passive invisibility and intangibility they wouldn't get the chance anyway. Which is what I'm arguing

That I know off yes

Not in technique, but I can't think of anyone who can match him in raw power. There might be a few, but I'm personally drawing blanks.

Trunks has spent more time fighting without his sword than with his sword. He barely counts as a swordsman in my eyes.

I explicitly said that NOT using universe equalization LEADS to NLFs.

@stormshadow_x: Soul Reapers have never started a fight being invisible, and as far as I can recall they’ve never started intangible either.

You wouldn’t happen to have scans for either instance, would you?

@jmarshmallow: It's not something they can control, it's a passive ability and save for for special people with supernatural powers themselves like Quincy's and the full bringers, no one can see or touch soul reapers because they're practically ghost.

Do you remember much of Bleach? The only way for a soul reaper to be seen and touched by most people was for them to get a fake body like the one Rukia used in the first arc.

Lol no

@stormshadow_x: DBZ characters would qualify as supernatural characters, they’re not just average humans.

@jmarshmallow: How so? Please explain? I believe beers does but do any of. The db characters have any feats concerning seeing ghost? Physically touching them? That broad logic any anime character in fiction whose in a fictional series could see bleach character, ofcourse that's faulty logic.

I guess any Naruto character could see bleach characters as well right?

Goku does travel between the realm of the living and the otherworld/Realm of the Kais on a regular basis via instant transmission. And while doing this he can physically interact with the beings and spirits there, a good example being King Kai who died during the Cell Games or him recruiting Frieza in Hell for the Tournament of Power. Android 17 could as well when he traveled with Goku to King Kai's planet during the Recruitment Arc in Super. So going by this, we can deduce that anyone can travel between the realms via instant transmission, confirmed by Kid Buu traveling to the realm of the Kais once he learned instant transmission. And not only can they interact with the dead, they can kill them as well for good if they destroy their spiritual body, something Buu nearly did to Vegeta when he was dead.

@stormshadow_x: As thatdude mentioned, most DBZ characters have interacted with the afterlife in one way or another. It’s been shown that they can interact with the underworld and communicate with them, and on top of that most DBZ characters have BEEN dead and come back to life. Goku specifically has not only done all of the above multiple times, but he’s also traveled between dimensions both while he has been dead and while he’s been alive. And as if that wasn’t enough, living DBZ characters have interacted with dead ones on multiple occasions, with no issue.

So no, I don’t think it’s far-fetched to assume that they’re not standard humans.