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#1 Posted by CaptainSweatpan (974 posts) - - Show Bio

Is she? For example does she have a chance against adapted Zod or Faora without her shield and sword?

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#2 Posted by RBT (27781 posts) - - Show Bio

None by feats. She's terribly outmatched in stats.

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#3 Posted by MAZAHS117 (12537 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. Strength could be debatable, and she has the combat skill, but durability and striking power (w/o Gear) are lacking to suggest she is in their weight class

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#4 Edited by IPvMan (792 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. I thought that was made pretty obvious in BvS.

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#5 Posted by Emperorb777 (11098 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope

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#6 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

No. She doesn’t have the stats.

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#7 Edited by CyberpunkCop (3405 posts) - - Show Bio

The only one she can beat is Nam ek with her weapons

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#8 Posted by eri123 (703 posts) - - Show Bio

No,not even close

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#9 Edited by IPvMan (792 posts) - - Show Bio

@mr_shazam0920: Right, because Doomsday and Superman were so much stronger and faster than her in BvS right? Right? Lol. She fought on par with them whole time mate. You're delusional.

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#10 Posted by CaptainSweatpan (974 posts) - - Show Bio

@ipvman: please don't troll this thread MOTM

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#11 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@ipvman:

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#12 Edited by Ready_4_Madness (15855 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard question to answer, considering the major inconsistency of her being able to hold her own against Doomsday but being leagues below Superman in JL. We just need to see more appearances from her to get a better understanding of her power level.

Hoping to see some good action between her and Cheetah.

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#14 Edited by Marishtar (2052 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course, DCEU Kryptonians are wanked beyond any comprehension.

Justice League Superman would curbstomp specifically Namek and Faora, they have no feats to suggest they could even react to that version.

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#15 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15855 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: but they’re roughly the same tier and are both kryptonians

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#16 Edited by SupremeGeneration (11709 posts) - - Show Bio

She was certainly comparable to pre-amp Superman, but post-amp seems like a different ball game entirely.

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#17 Posted by MetalJimmor (6412 posts) - - Show Bio

It is worth pointing out that Diana didn't want to kill Clark when they fought in Justice League. She was hesitant to even attack him and didn't want to use her sword.

Superman is also much, much stronger now than he was when he fought Zod. Far more experienced and far more comfortable with his powers. After his resurrection he also seemed to have discovered a whole new world of combat speed compared to his previous self, possibly thanks to his confrontation with Barry.

So yes, I'd say Diana can contend with the likes of Nam-Ek and Faora. She doesn't quite have their strength, but she does have her speedblitz from her solo to say she can keep up with Foara and her sword can cut through them like tissue paper. Zod is debatable chiefly because of the flight advantage.

Another thing worth considering is we've never really seen her tap into her divine heritage like she did against Ares where she gained extra powers like what he had. It is possible this will come up again in a future movie and we've just not seen it yet.

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#18 Posted by agent41 (15573 posts) - - Show Bio

Time will tell. We need more feats to have a better notion of where she ranks.

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#19 Posted by Subline (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

No, though it could be argued only because of her gear.

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#20 Posted by godzilla44 (7362 posts) - - Show Bio

She could beat Faora but not zod.

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#21 Edited by rogueshadow (29252 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana being clowned by Superman in JL despite seemingly having some parity with him in BvS can be explained if we simply assume that Clark was not operating at his peak in the last battle of BvS. He had been hit by a nuclear bomb point-blank and been exposed to/inhaled two heavy doses of Kryptonite, along with being cut on the cheek by it. It is likely that the brief exposure to sunlight did not bring him back to 100%.

Bruce (and the others) all seemed to acknowledge that Superman was simply a lot more powerful than anybody on the Justice League.

I don't think we can say how she would compare to the other Kryptonians from an in-universe perspective, given that Clark was a veritable rookie in MOS.

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#22 Edited by Richubs (4180 posts) - - Show Bio

Had this question been asked before Justice League came along I'd have said yes without thinking a lot but now clearly she isn't in the same ballpark unless they choose to ignore what happened to her power levels in JL.

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#23 Posted by macleen (3435 posts) - - Show Bio

No

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#24 Posted by TheOneWhoPullsTheStrings (2746 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Edited by TheOneWhoPullsTheStrings (2746 posts) - - Show Bio

@godzilla44 said:

She could beat Faora but not zod.

She beats none of them unless she gets a lucky hit with her sword.

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#26 Posted by APEX_pretador (20272 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Steppenwolf was scared of "a Kryptonian", not the strongest Kryptonian ever

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#27 Posted by agent41 (15573 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs said:

Had this question been asked before Justice League came along I'd have said yes without thinking a lot but now clearly she isn't in the same ballpark unless they choose to ignore what happened to her power levels in JL.

And they should ignore it. Just like aquaman ignored jl and gave him much better feats than in jl. In jl we never even saw her tap into her divine heritage like she did against Ares, where she gained extra powers similar to what he had. It is possible this will come up again in future films.

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#28 Edited by Supermanthor (18885 posts) - - Show Bio

nope

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#29 Posted by The_Kidd (11967 posts) - - Show Bio
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#30 Edited by MrTrey (301 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, in the video of the 4th comment she's objectively stopping a punch from the Kryptonian monstrosity Doomsday in the thumbnail, and shows the exact same speed as Superman in the first 30 seconds. The Mother Box made Superman far more powerful, the same way it made Cyborg vastly more powerful, minus the machine parts.

In some ways she's more powerful due to her gear and other stuff like her disintegrating god aura. The only reason to think otherwise is due to dumb piercing resistance bullshit and whatnot.

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#32 Posted by rem (2659 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course, DCEU Kryptonians are wanked beyond any comprehension.

Justice League Superman would curbstomp specifically Namek and Faora, they have no feats to suggest they could even react to that version.

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#33 Posted by DammeFavour (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

Not really. Plus I think superman didn't get more powerful in jl, he just hadn't needed to go that fast before, same reason he didn't use his superspeed until the Smallville fight, he simply adapted to the higher speed

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#34 Posted by Saiyan_Prince510 (283 posts) - - Show Bio

Not even close

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#35 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@DammeFavour:

So.. what you’re saying is... in true Doomsday fashion.. Clark adapted and one shotted?

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#36 Posted by Crimson-Feather (114 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Wonder Woman is maybe even better than Nam-Ek if that's his name or Faora, but not as good as Zod or Superman.

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#37 Posted by AtmExle (561 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol. She's not even close. They have much better strength feats and striking power than her.

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#38 Posted by DammeFavour (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

@mr_shazam0920: essentially. Kinda like how faora had never had superspeed in her entire life but was somehow able to match superman and surpass him even though he's had more time with powers

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#39 Edited by Mr_Shazam0920 (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@DammeFavour:

lol I was just messing with the whole “DD adapts and one shots” thing.

But yeah that’s true. Supes probably never had to use that kind of speed before and I believe we haven’t even scratched the surface of his powers yet.

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#40 Posted by Emanresu_20 (2837 posts) - - Show Bio

The only reason she was able to hand with DD was due to skill and her gear on top of great reaction speed.

Faora was faster, hit hard, and was about as strong as MOS Superman. WW has nowhere near the physicals to compete with her.

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#41 Posted by DavidHarewood14 (1265 posts) - - Show Bio

Sad to say but nope

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#42 Posted by deactivated-5cadf799d578c (401 posts) - - Show Bio

No, not even close.

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#43 Posted by Amcu (16623 posts) - - Show Bio

No. I think she should be though.

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#44 Posted by Helloman (29665 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe.

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#45 Posted by GateOfBabylon (4017 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes in skill and speed. Not so much in strength and striking.

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#46 Posted by gunchar16 (1724 posts) - - Show Bio

@rem said:
@marishtar said:

Of course, DCEU Kryptonians are wanked beyond any comprehension.

Justice League Superman would curbstomp specifically Namek and Faora, they have no feats to suggest they could even react to that version.

Agreed.

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#47 Posted by ArkhamAsylum3 (3859 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

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#48 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (11122 posts) - - Show Bio

She couldn't budge Superman from his place soooo.. nope.

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#49 Edited by agent41 (15573 posts) - - Show Bio

@atmexle: @hispanicspidey: @rogueshadow: @amcu: @arkhamasylum3: @thebestofthebest: @rbt: I do think she should grow in feats in future films. It would be way off base to portray DCEU WW as a super human red sonja. In the comics she has always had the physical stats to stand up against kryptonians. I know that movie version of powerhouses are never as powerful as their comic version. But i think it would be a mistake to leave movie version of WW in a position where she doesn't have enough physical power to stand her ground against other heavy hitters. She is supposed to be a powerhouse, not just a super human warrior woman.

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#50 Posted by JediXMan (42477 posts) - - Show Bio

She was until JL.

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