Is DCEU Wonder Woman a high tier?

Without her gear, she's high mid(movie standards), with her gear she's low high.

Movie wise, she's somewhere near that.

@darkpsychiclord_prime: Sorry, my mistake.

without her gear she is mid mid tier

with her gear sue is low high tier

(live action)

is a little bit sad that she isn't an high tier without her standard equip,she should be a powerhouse by herself

By movie standards without gear she's mid tier, with gear she's low-high tier.

By comic standards she's like low mid-tier with gear

WTF am I reading????? Comic Diana only mid tier hellllllll nooooo. Wrong wrong wrong...Jesus....Diana is high tier, beats high tier duh... Power Girl, Supergirl beat both in just a few moves....While training blond folded trashed the entire league....Can give Clark hell if not holding back. Now with her wica powers she's even more so....get it right people. At worst she's low high tier.....live action High tier as well.....World's gone to hell when a Marvel fan has to take up for Diana.... twilight zone........

DCEU Diana?

@mazahs117: Yep she's high tier maybe low high tier but she's above mid tier

I believe power rankings should not include skill unless stated. The following are either from the MCU or DCEU (not comics).

In my opinion...

High High tier - Thanos with IG & Dr Strange (barely)

Mid high tier - Supes, Thanos w/ weapon, Cap Marvel

Lower High tier - Thor w/ Stormbreaker, WW w/ weapons, AQ w/ Atlan's trident

Without weapons....?

Defensive Abilities - Invulnerability (enough to take multiple headbutts from Supes & survive doomsday's heat vision)

Offensive Abilities - Super strength (enough to hold doomsday for a very short period and stop his fist. Enough to hurt Supes with headbutt - the same guy that fell through a mountain top)

Speed - at least super sonic in combat

What tips Diana without weapons from maybe to definitely high tier is energy manipulation. Patty J implied that she could manipulate energy (absorb and emit) without her vambraces. Increases her defensive and offensive capabilities. Without that ability, she's at the very bottom of high tier or upper mid (same lvl as AQ with quindent, gladiator Thor, Hulk)

In terms of CBM heroes, yeah. In terms of comics she's high street tier/low mid tier.

DCEU: Without gear she’s a low high tier, mid high tier with it. And I’d say high high tier (maybe) if she uses her equipment in conjunction with her godly powers. Similar to how she used it at the end of her solo movie (energy manipulation, lightning absorbing and casting).

@hermes1220: This.

She's somewhere in the high tier regarding live-action. I don't understand why the use of her gear somehow makes her unimpressive without it. For one, it's a part of her character. She's not Wonder Woman without her gear, same way Iron Man is not Iron Man without his suit. For two, her stats are what make her gear relevant, same way Tony's brain makes his suit relevant.

Sword - Would be useless if she didn't have the speed/skill to use it.

Lasso - Would be useless without her strength/skill.

Shield - Would be useless without her skill

Bracelets - Would be useless (in terms of blocking) without her reflexes.

I may be forgetting something, but that's the gist of it.

Somewhere inbetween medium-high assuming she has her gear. Without gear, mid-tier at best.

Diana is War Machine level without her gear

Not as of now. Remove her shockwave attack and her sword, and she's a live action mid tier or comic street leveler.

By any standards yes

^lol

@thanosii: LOL, War Machine flying with the tank is a feat for his thrusters, not his strength because his thrusters are what’s lifting it higher, not his arms (his arms are holding the same weight that they were before, the thrusters are lifting it higher obviously). Also Wonder Woman put the tank down with one hand iirc, and picked it up from a far more difficult position than War Machine did.

Also War Machines below Diana in Strength (blocked Doomsday’s Fist with her sword, her headbutt stunned Superman), he’s below Diana in durability (tanked Doomsdays hits, and Superman’s headbutt), Speed (blocking machine gun fire, speedblitzing people before they can react, etc..)

He’s really not above her in anything and it’s not debatable

Yeah, she is. She might not be on that level physically, but she's not a brick.

Why are people discrediting her gears? That's like discrediting Dr. Strange's magic.

If we give that sword to someone like Superman

Then that sword would become ten times more dangerous

@supermanthor: Only because of his speed. Would you say the same about MCU Thor? I wouldn't.

@lan_fan: nah I would not say that about mcu Thor

I never even consider mcu and dceu in the same ball park when it comes to power level

To me dceus power level is higher

But I am a more mcu fan myself

If you gave Clark's stats someone like Slade.

Than that stats would become hundred times more dangerous.

Let's not turn DCEU Clark into an even worse Super Jesus Sue than he already is or give these incompetent blockheads at WB even more ideas to crash the DCEU against a wall.

@alsimmons77: stats is something you can not give realistically to others

Where the sword you can

That never stopped any writer to give Batman the stats of Clark, Slade the Speed-Force, or Spidey the powers of Captain Universe.

Clark with a sword is an even worse idea than Batman with a lethal gun, and it is anyways just as easy to switch powers in Comic Book-Verses.

@apex_pretador: so a comic street leveler can withhold doomsday with the lasso, take headbutts from Superman, and casually pick up and hold a tank over their head? Ok

@alsimmons77: hardly any of those will ever make to the big screen because of complexity for the casuals

Also captain universe is enigma force that chooses people time to time since it's debut

Unlike Diana's sword It never meant for someone specifically

If you think my or anyone's ideas are bad fine but this is a public fourm I can write whatever my thoughts are

What was complex about Kryptonian Batman or Speed-Force Slade?

I know and comic-books came up with thousands of ideas to switch powers around.

It was meant for her character specifically, like the lasso and bracelets.

How could anyone think it would be a good idea to give Clark the equipment of Diana, that would be even worse than to give Diana the ability to sun-dip. And the DCEU already disrespected the whole rest of the Justice League for the sake of Clark, which has rightfully ended with 1 of the biggest disasters of the DCEU so far.

@dannyphantom:

1. It all depends on how indestructible the lasso is.

2. It all depends on how hard superman is hitting

3. Yes

also i see you hate dceu superman i can understand that

but a fun fact he is the least most powerful superman we have ever on big screen lol

at least within my knowledge

By film standards: high mid tier to low high tier.

By CB standards: low mid tier.

@apex_pretador:

1. Same lasso from dceu, like Diana did in bvs

2. From JL (I don’t blame you if u forgot or didn’t see it, i barely remember myself)

3. Maybe I’m not as well read as you but which street levelers can lift a 30 ton tank over their head casually for like a minute and toss it aside just as easily

Even casual fans wouldn't be too stupid to understand the very simple concept of Batman gaining the powers of Clark.

I don't hate DCEU Superman, i just hate WB's and DC's backward logic that the best way to portray a character as powerful or competent, would be to portray anyone else as weak or incompetent. And i hate around 80% of the movie Justice League.

In no other movie with Superman got the rest of the Justice League sacrified to portray him as powerful, the problem is not that DCEU Clark is powerful, the problem is that anyone else is far too weak.

i also just realize that if ww gets any new impressive speed feats in her upcoming movie it will make superman's speed automatic more impressive

@dannyphantom:

1,2. I more than remember the scenes in question. I was just talking about "restraining doomsday" is a durability feat for the lasso because doomsday was trying to flex out of it. She didn't stop doomsday from moving, he wasn't trying to move. And Superman wasn't going all out against JL, if he was, they would all be dead. That's why I said it depends how hard was superman hitting.

3. Spider-Man, gamora are two prime examples that come to mind. Many villains of Spider-Man would also be up there.

Wolverine has strength feats not much below that, like swinging a massive tree around as a weapon.

I'm not well versed into comic street levelers, so someone else might give a better answer.

In the movies, sure maybe. In the comic realm, she isnt high anything.

Eh maybe high end street level...

@undert4aker: Lol probably. I think Gorgon, at his prime, would unironically beat her.

Low high tier with equipment.

High mid tier without equipment.

@brucerogers: Honestly Spiderman would probably beat her. I don't think she could get out of his webbing. Venom and Carnage certainly should be able to beat her, although those 2 might fall into low end mid-tier category.

Thor doesn't need her sword. He has a far superior weapon. It's called Stormbreaker.

Let's say he doesn't have that.

He's still stronger than Diana and can summon lightning, hurricanes and whatnot. Let's not compare a real God to a demigod.