Is darth Vader overrated as a villain?

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#1 Edited by Dmnb2wavy (652 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader seem to do nothing that interesting as a villain to me.

@the_agent_of_chaos

edit: when you post explain why you think it’s overrated or not and don't simply just say yes or no answers it’s annoying honestly

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#2 Posted by Dmnb2wavy (652 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (18757 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he is.

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#4 Posted by Army2442 (3516 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Thanos > Vader.

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#5 Posted by MountAcnologia (430 posts) - - Show Bio

He is overrated , but it's only that the hype is a bit too much for him. That being said , he still is the best villain , the only thing is the hype is wayyyy too much.

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#6 Posted by The_Man_With_Questions (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah. The prequel trilogy made me lose a lot of respect for him. I also find that he comes off as cartoonishly evil at times, and the dude is covered in thick amounts of PIS.

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#7 Edited by KillBilly (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

Going purely by his story he's essentially the perfect embodiment of the tragic hero turned villain trope. This image is only slightly marred by his onscreen portrayal in the prequels.

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#8 Edited by melkorisbeatmod (365 posts) - - Show Bio

in the movies yes in comics no

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#9 Posted by Michaelbn (3084 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Thanos said hi.

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#10 Posted by Darkthunder (3746 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually I loved Vader especially in empire

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#11 Posted by Grinningf0x (1581 posts) - - Show Bio

No

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#13 Posted by Boby501 (489 posts) - - Show Bio

Nahh

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#14 Posted by eri123 (6968 posts) - - Show Bio

No

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#15 Posted by mrmonster (17076 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. He's still one of the best movie villains of all time. Possibly the best for a sci-fi/fantasy movie.

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#16 Edited by AlexTheBoss (19565 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't say he is overrated. He is definitively one of the best movie villains of all time. I do think emperor Palpatine is underrated though, due to Vader's popularity eclipsing his. When you look at the story as a whole he is definitely the main villain, and it seems ep 9 is going to further push that agenda.

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#17 Posted by Bayman007 (2820 posts) - - Show Bio

No way

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#18 Posted by im_late (359 posts) - - Show Bio

He isn't.

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#19 Posted by Dmnb2wavy (652 posts) - - Show Bio

So as I said can anyone actually explain why earth Vader is a good villain instead of just saying No Or if your agreeing say why. He really did not seem that good honestly.

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#20 Edited by ErentheGhoul (279 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah. And the prequels gave him even more depth making him even better.

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#21 Posted by King-Ragnar (5157 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously not.

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#23 Posted by PenguinDust (9911 posts) - - Show Bio

If you're asking for people to explain why they believe he's not overrated, shouldn't you provide more than he's not interesting to you?

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#24 Posted by TakenStew22 (5806 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by MountAcnologia (430 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos is not better than Vader imo. Vader's still the best.

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#26 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (9211 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader is the Goat still. People have know idea how to use the word overrated anymore all it signifies now is someone’s butthurt over something.

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#27 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (18757 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Edited by DetectiveSomerset__ (1669 posts) - - Show Bio

@army2442 said:

MCU Thanos > Vader.

NO. That guy cant be compared to the REAL Villain.

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#29 Edited by DetectiveSomerset__ (1669 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader still GOAT , thanos is the one overrated his plan makes no sense , trash looking , no signature soundtrack , no masterpiece movie , CGI Only.

Ill answer why Vader is a great villain

1) It redifined the role of the villain in the history of films , before it rarely villains were so beloved and effective and menacing

2) The signature soundtrack and dialogue , not much but all was great.

3) His look , the mysterious presence and his slow running making us questions

4) The voice

5) The twist and scene , releved it was the father of the hero.

6) The mystery. in the original movie we know nothing about vader basically in the first movie he has no origin story (good writing like joker , lecter and anton chirurgh) Obi-wan tell his former that he turned evil , but we are not sure hes a men or an alien or some commander (like palpatine) , we dont know why he breaths like that and why he touches and hits people. We learn he is a tragic charachter in the prequels and he has a great devlopment , very good writing except Attack of the clones lovestory...

7) His role in the plot of ROTJ

8) he was the hearth and depth of 6 movies , and he never failed with the mask on. Basically the lighting of the saber plus his costume design.. his powers , his intelligence , his threatning confidence.

You either like and get it or you dont , he is simply great in everything , exactly like The Joker or Lecter which are my fav villains aswell there is no repliacting them , each in their own league in their genre , you cant make another Vader and thats why he is great aswell. Ask me some questions if you want.

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#30 Posted by GateOfBabylon (5261 posts) - - Show Bio

Not at all.

Vader is one of the most defining and influential villains ever. Great balance of depth, mystery, badassery, complexity, and is connected to the protagonist in the biggest and more influential movie twist of its time.

The only one that comes close is Nolan Joker.

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