Is Batman punching the Reverse Flash PIS?(spoilers)

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#51 Posted by nickzambuto (29288 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't imagine this was Thawne toying with Batman, given the raging grimace on his face and being covered in his own blood already. Yet the timer clearly shows he was barely using any super speed, so it's not hard to imagine a peak human reacting when he's effectively moving only around 10 FPS. The question then becomes why on earth is a bloodied and furious Reverse Flash still barely using his power.

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#52 Edited by Bardockdiaper (161 posts) - - Show Bio

most encounters between villains vs heroes are PIS.

AGREED.

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#53 Edited by Black_Arrow (10301 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

I can't imagine this was Thawne toying with Batman, given the raging grimace on his face and being covered in his own blood already. Yet the timer clearly shows he was barely using any super speed, so it's not hard to imagine a peak human reacting when he's effectively moving only around 10 FPS. The question then becomes why on earth is a bloodied and furious Reverse Flash still barely using his power.

Well Batman put a batarang through Eobard's foot so he shouldn't be able to run really fast with that injury. What's impressive is that Batman managed to punch before he could react.

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#54 Posted by WeAreTheFlash (2127 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlockmage: ?Batman should've died a LONG time ago if we're talking real physics.

If we are taking real word physics into consideration for the Reverse Flash...

  • Flash's Ankles Are Broken Every Time He Runs
  • Reverse Flash becomes blind if traveling up the side of a building.
  • Get instantly killed if he came in contact with a fly while running.
  • Must gradually decelerate in order to stop.
  • Running at Over Mach 20, he Basically kills Himself and Everybody Around Him
  • He Dies If Going over 270 mph.
  • He Dies If He Runs Up a Hill.
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#55 Edited by BlueHope (2681 posts) - - Show Bio

"Peak Humans" can do anything in DC/Marvel, Batman can touch Flash and Captain America can K.O Hulk.

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#56 Posted by Bardockdiaper (161 posts) - - Show Bio

no,just EXTREME WIS.

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#57 Posted by Batvibe12 (6108 posts) - - Show Bio

HE'S BATMAN! I'm pretty sure Batman has planned to at least hit Eobard.

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#58 Edited by StormShadow_X (17532 posts) - - Show Bio

Meh

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#59 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

It was clear that RF was toying with him the whole time, which is the problem with most DC villains as they underestimate Batman due to his Lack of powers. But if i would to explain him tagging him it would be due to the fact he stabbed his foot.

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#60 Posted by Rubear (4673 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father said:

It was clear that RF was toying with him the whole time, which is the problem with most DC villains as they underestimate Batman due to his Lack of powers. But if i would to explain him tagging him it would be due to the fact he stabbed his foot.

Reverse Flash clearly wanted not just to kill Batman, but to hurt him a lot, to make his death slow and painful and to let Batman know who and why killed him. Otherwise he'd just break his neck from behind.

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#61 Posted by Mooty_Pass (10704 posts) - - Show Bio

@sanitrize1999: GEEZ! When you put real life physics it seems the Flash is just a danger to himself.

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#62 Posted by DCfan2015 (414 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh i don't understand how anyone can say RF was toying with batman when it was clear that RF was shocked that Batman survived the first attack and then batman wasted no time and stabbed him in his foot to slow him down which made RF very angry and Batman is not someone you take lightly or downplay

After Batman punched him you see RF is even more mad at him

Batman lost anyway so i don't understand why mad ??

but since RF tore Bruce letter i can't wait to see what kind of prep Batman have for him to put him down for good.

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#63 Posted by SpitfirePanda (2573 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I wanna read this. That looks awesome!

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#64 Edited by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

He's the goddamn Batman.

Of course it isn't PIS.

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#65 Posted by MAZAHS117 (13643 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope, doesn't count because he's Batman

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#66 Posted by Manwhohaseverything (3818 posts) - - Show Bio

No. With speed-of-light guys, everything could be "PIS" (which i believe doesn't exist, but that's another topic). I mean, what should happen? RF shows up, One panel later Batman dies. That'd be "realistic" and a really bad comic to pay $3 for. If we want every hero to be represented the way his/her "power set" says he/she should be, than folks like Flash, Superman, Thor and villains of the same ilk etc...would never, ever break a sweat and all comic books involving them would be less than a page.

But, my biggest point is, comics are fantasy. There's a thing we do for the story called "suspending disbelief" I guess there are times the story could be asking you to do that too much, but I don't think Batman hitting RF Flash once qualifies. That'd be like if Jimmy Olsen, no powers, no nothing, just Jimmy Olsen, kicked Superman's ass.

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#67 Posted by ferber08 (96 posts) - - Show Bio

and Thor can´t tag Superman right? hahahahaha

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#68 Posted by Bumpaddle (128 posts) - - Show Bio

People get so upset.

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#69 Posted by righteous300 (3975 posts) - - Show Bio
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#70 Posted by NthMetalWarrior (375 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman faster reaction speeds than Slowdinson confirmed

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#71 Posted by deactivated-599632ff76068 (1029 posts) - - Show Bio
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#72 Posted by comicace3 (12437 posts) - - Show Bio

This isn't impossible people. It's batman

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#75 Posted by buttersdaman000 (23234 posts) - - Show Bio

Each panel spans a single second. If Reverse Flash is moving that slow, then of course Batman could exchange with him. The real question is why Reverse Flash chose to fight at normal human speeds.

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#76 Edited by The_Kidd (12590 posts) - - Show Bio

The only PIS in that panel is RF not getting oneshotted.

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#77 Posted by Warlockmage (9543 posts) - - Show Bio
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#78 Posted by WarDevil (802 posts) - - Show Bio

He did kick the Specter...so, what the hell, right?

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#79 Posted by comic_fan123 (1056 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

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#80 Posted by sazuke2497 (125 posts) - - Show Bio

yep pure PIS

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#81 Edited by lettsplay10 (20589 posts) - - Show Bio

One word batman

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#82 Posted by Maverick_6 (10434 posts) - - Show Bio

It isn't honestly jarring to me, even if the entire forum finds it to be. Couple of reasons. Some of them semi scientific.

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One, I watched a video of a guy slice out a 500 mile per hour BB gun bead with a Katana by predicting where the bead was going to be, based on the user's aim. Then you take batman, who I'd love to headcanon as dodging the aim of supersonic projectiles. However, I'm pretty sure there is a platoon of feats of Batman somehow dodging supersonic projectiles after they are fired with what would require superhuman speed. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)

So, with this, compounded with

  • People mentioning that batman stabbed reverse flash in the foot.
  • People stating that RF played with Batman too much
  • How comic physics depict peak humans as being blatantly within the realm of superhumans

And I don't really find it all that jarring. I more or less just headcanon that batman intercepted zoom with one lucky punch at mach 3 or 4 or whatever. High end bullet speed. Predicted where he'd be after he sprinted at him. Guessed right. *WHAM*

So, at the end of the day, it doesn't bother me much at all.

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#83 Posted by BruceRogers (17803 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh and I think the whole point of including the timer was to show that RF wasn't going that fast. Or maybe that is just me

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#84 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (31807 posts) - - Show Bio

well, the issue at last establishes the question: are people in flash's tier really too fast for peak humans to react like their fans used to think? Clearly not.

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#85 Posted by BruceRogers (17803 posts) - - Show Bio
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#86 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (18830 posts) - - Show Bio

@ferber08: he obviously can but it's still a major disadvantage

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#87 Posted by theawesomeflashsandiego32 (2152 posts) - - Show Bio
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#88 Posted by Lvenger (36350 posts) - - Show Bio

The answer is easy people, it's so obvious why a mere mortal can last in a fight someone who can move so fast the world stands still and can travel at lightspeed which by most common logic would allow him to easily kill a regular person if he used his speed properly.

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#89 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (31807 posts) - - Show Bio
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#90 Posted by Warlockmage (9543 posts) - - Show Bio
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#91 Edited by DanielDaRipper (6037 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

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#92 Posted by Benjamin_Poindexter (1035 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's be honest with ourselves, Batman's entire existence has been PIS.

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#93 Posted by Thedarkking25 (1209 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's be honest with ourselves, Batman's entire existence has been PIS.

^This lol

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#94 Posted by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

He was playing around with Batman.

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#96 Posted by Pokeysteve (12033 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless he's slowing down and intentionally letting Batman hit him, yes it is major pis. No street leveler should be able to touch a speedster.

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#97 Posted by Toratorn (8543 posts) - - Show Bio

Yet another showing that proves Batman is MFTL. /s

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#98 Posted by DigitalShooter9 (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

That was one of the worst beatings I've seen Batman get in a while..

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#99 Posted by DigitalShooter9 (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness said:

@warlockmage: ?Batman should've died a LONG time ago if we're talking real physics.

If we are taking real word physics into consideration for the Reverse Flash...

  • Flash's Ankles Are Broken Every Time He Runs
  • Reverse Flash becomes blind if traveling up the side of a building.
  • Get instantly killed if he came in contact with a fly while running.
  • Must gradually decelerate in order to stop.
  • Running at Over Mach 20, he Basically kills Himself and Everybody Around Him
  • He Dies If Going over 270 mph.
  • He Dies If He Runs Up a Hill.

Owned.

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#100 Posted by WeAreTheFlash (2127 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve: He anticipating where Reverse Flash would be. It's not like he saw him and then punched.