@entropy_aegis: That's really a silly argument, many marvel movies didn't carry over to Age of Ultron. Not every individual movie most carry over to avengers. That's a good thing.
@entropy_aegis: That's really a silly argument, many marvel movies didn't carry over to Age of Ultron. Not every individual movie most carry over to avengers. That's a good thing.
Because :
Those movies weren't supposed to.
They didn't radically affect their characters and status quo as Iron Man 3, thus not necessitating any acknowledgement.
It's clear that as far as MCU is concerned IM 3 is best left ignored and also unlike other movies it made over $1.3 billion so yes it's going to be held to a different standard.
@entropy_aegis: That's really a silly argument, many marvel movies didn't carry over to Age of Ultron. Not every individual movie most carry over to avengers. That's a good thing.
Because :
Those movies weren't supposed to.
They didn't radically affect their characters and status quo as Iron Man 3, thus not necessitating any acknowledgement.
It's clear that as far as MCU is concerned IM 3 is best left ignored and also unlike other movies it made over $1.3 billion so yes it's going to be held to a different standard.
Man, you're right. I gotta agree with you. "Let us make Iron Man Three more important to the story because of how much dough that film produced! Putting money before story. Because that's what made Snyder's DC films so successful, right? Am I right?"
DKR was disappointing (Bane, Lame Bruce/Batman, terrible fight scenes, catwoman, the Al-Ghul chic, lots of silly things) but it was not as horrible as IM3 (Magma-pepper, PTSD Tony, Rhodey not fighting at the end in the Iron Patriot armor, Magma-Pepper, Heat-people. WEAK, FRAGILE, REPLACEMENT SUITS END BATTLE, Pepper having to save Tony...again, All just terrible aspects of the movie. I could go on and on.)
@entropy_aegis: That's really a silly argument, many marvel movies didn't carry over to Age of Ultron. Not every individual movie most carry over to avengers. That's a good thing.
Because :
Those movies weren't supposed to.
They didn't radically affect their characters and status quo as Iron Man 3, thus not necessitating any acknowledgement.
It's clear that as far as MCU is concerned IM 3 is best left ignored and also unlike other movies it made over $1.3 billion so yes it's going to be held to a different standard.
Man, you're right. I gotta agree with you. "Let us make Iron Man Three more important to the story because of how much dough that film produced! Putting money before story. Because that's what made Snyder's DC films so successful, right? Am I right?"
What does that have to do with anything? Nolan and WB are proud of Rises, Disney couldnt give a hoot about Iron Man 3. It's dough matters because that separates it from the rest of MCU films and story wise by all accounts it's the most important chapter in Iron Man's career by intent.
@entropy_aegis: That's really a silly argument, many marvel movies didn't carry over to Age of Ultron. Not every individual movie most carry over to avengers. That's a good thing.
Because :
Those movies weren't supposed to.
They didn't radically affect their characters and status quo as Iron Man 3, thus not necessitating any acknowledgement.
It's clear that as far as MCU is concerned IM 3 is best left ignored and also unlike other movies it made over $1.3 billion so yes it's going to be held to a different standard.
Man, you're right. I gotta agree with you. "Let us make Iron Man Three more important to the story because of how much dough that film produced! Putting money before story. Because that's what made Snyder's DC films so successful, right? Am I right?"
What does that have to do with anything? Nolan and WB are proud of Rises, Disney couldnt give a hoot about Iron Man 3. It's dough matters because that separates it from the rest of MCU films and story wise by all accounts it's the most important chapter in Iron Man's career by intent.
Your point is irrelevant. Iron Man Three should, default, be more intrinsic to the overall Marvel Cinematic Universe... why? Because it's the highest grossing standalone film? They should definitely write their story and work their way around to ensure that Iron Man Three's existence is emphasised... because it produced a lot of money?
What exactly are you hoping for Marvel to do to "be proud of it." You want Fiege to handcraft a shrine in honour of Iron Man Three and bow down to it like a second coming of Jesus?
Please, tell me how you want the studio to honour Iron Man Three.
@thefemalebat: A simple sequence with Tony rebuilding his armors or just showing a whole new batch of armors could do wonders you know. IM3 was important to Iron Man's story and that character continues to be very important to MCU yet IM3 itself is unimportant to the MCU despite it's box office? sorry but the only way that makes sense is if the studio doesn't care.
@thefemalebat: A simple sequence with Tony rebuilding his armors or just showing a whole new batch of armors could do wonders you know. IM3 was important to Iron Man's story and that character continues to be very important to MCU yet IM3 itself is unimportant to the MCU despite it's box office? sorry but the only way that makes sense is if the studio doesn't care.
Nah, uh. That's bad editing 101. Imagine a sequence of them rebuilding S.H.I.E.L.D.
Iron Man 3 was a character study. An answer to the question of "[big man in a suit of armour] take that away, what are you?" The movie carries minimal impact to the universe as a whole. And to character, it is thematically relevant to Tony Stark.
I mean, stop for a moment to ask yourself a question: what impact does Iron Man Three have that could carry onto the future films? It was a character piece. It isn't The Winter Soldier where S.H.I.E.L.D no longer existed and it had implications on the future films.
Guardians of The Galaxy is not exactly "mentioned", but that doesn't imply that Marvel isn't proud of it!
@entropy_aegis: oh, and by the way, Marvel does not pretend Iron Man Three doesn't exist.
If they did, why would they have made the Mandarin one-shot? Why do you think Pepper and him are on a break? Because he didn't maintain his promise of not being Iron Man. And above all, why do you think Tony didn't die in Civil War when Captain America crushed the arc reactor? Because he had it removed from his chest in Iron Man Three.
The Dark Knight Rises. It's actually a good film that nicely concluded an amazing trilogy, even if it didn't quite measure up to its predecessors. Iron Man 3 didn't do an already mediocre series any favors.
While after a few more watches of IM3 I think it is pretty overhated if you were watching it as a non-comic fan who didn't have a clue about the Mandarin, it's a pretty solid film for general audiences.
However I still think TDKR is a very good film and a fair bit better than IM3 and I am a comic fan so the Mandarin thing still pissed me off
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