In your opinion, is it safe to say no one in the MCU can compare to the combat speed of DCEU Kryptonians?

I mean a lot of probably has to do with Snyder’s style of action directing, but boy he made them look beautifully powerful.

Quicksilver could

Inb4 some tard says carol

Quicksilver combat speed > Faora/Zod.

QS can. Maybe not with JL Supes.

None in MCU can compete with kryptonian speed, no way is quicksilver on there level.

@emperorb777: lol. You're right for the exception of post JL Supes. They are not on his level. They're slower.

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It is.

No one but maybe QS tbh. I would need a strong case for him.

But as it stands I think he’s slightly slower than they are.

A lot slower imo. But they could casually react to him though.

@nightgate: True

Yes, except maybe Quicksilver.

Yeah actually maybe quicksilver is faster then the normal Kryptonians in reactions speed but not Clark.

MCU is full of slow ass people.

On foe nem

Quicksilver can.

Obvious bait thread is obvious bait thread.

Quicksilver Silver moves faster then anyone Kryptonian other then Superman Captain Marvel is comparable and Spider-Man has better reflexes

Bait.

Pietro could.

That's it.

Outside of JL Superman, Kryptonians seem to bullrush then try pummeling their opponents. Iron man, Hulk, Thor, etc could all keep up with that

Quick Silver would be the closest and could perceive them but the unadapted Kryptonians are still faster than him.

Maybe Quicksilver.

@erentheghoul: This ain't no real combat speed; It's travel speed applied to combat, in the (un-variable) form of a bullrush.

Look at her: Straightline rush, pause, action, straightline rush, pause, action. Rince, repeat. She didn't even hurt anyone. It's not true combat speed, Combat speed would have been sustaining a consistant speed and taking sharp turns - it's more a manoeuvrability exercise than a race. It's like racing in a crowded 4-rooms appartement with closed doors rather than doing a straightline on the highway.

Combat speed is also the number of "actions" one can execute in a given amount of time, Once again, Kryptonians un-variably deliver no more than one (straightline) hit, of moderate power, no matter the mach cones and slomeau, while un-augmented martial artists like, yes, Batman and the Black Widow place about four and eliminate their peers with them. How come Batman and BW can KO peers but Superman can't is beyond me.

So, IMO, it 's quite "unsafe" to advance what the OP proposes. In fact, I'd feel safer dancing in traffic with a paper bag over my head. MCU Quicsilver is, without the shadow of a doubt, faster than Superman in combat speed (which is hardly a feat, as explained above) - and by feats probably even faster than DCEU Flash too. A lot more efficient, in any case.

Post JL Supes is the only one that has a legitimate statue force in combat where I can agree hes probably too much for almost everyone 1v1.

Namek is pretty slow in comparison with the other Kryptonians. I could see Hulk, Thor, Hela and Thanos going at it with him.

Faora is too fast for those guys in pure combat, but there's still Carol, and Pietro is just flat out faster than her.

Zod and Superman would blitz the whole MCU cast.

@nucleon: combat speed is literally the speed at which you fight at. No need to complicate it. Her scene with Clark at the diner shows her H2H speed as well which put him down

Then MCU Iron Man is also a speedster.

@erentheghoul: Dont. You've been warned.

Quicksilver is faster than every DCEU Kryptonian except Supes.

Only QS can at least keep up but he's still slower than any Kryptonian.

Lol at Pietro, pretty sure he's Mach 1 at best and even Wonder Woman has better travel, combat and reactions speeds than QS. The Kryptonians are far faster. JL Supes is hundreds if not thousands of times faster in combat speed than anyone in the MCU.

@megafanflash: what’s that supposed to mean

The Kryptonian Speedsters have superior combat speed when compared to the MCU big hitters, that's for sure.

Spoken like a True Believer. Thousands of times faster, huh?

Alas, there's nothing that could warrant such NLF faith: Compare the Faora people-pushing scene in the OP with QS destroying dozens of bots in a few seconds - forget about it, you can't. What does Superman have to compare with Pietro when he unloaded and neatly placed a held gun's ammo on a desk? Well he's got a sequence where he fails to tag a half-speed Flash. Ha ha ha that's pathetic.

IMO, deciding who is faster between MCU QS and DCEU Superman is quite a done deal, as Superman is nowhere near QS in terms in combat speed. Heck, Pietro looked even faster than DCEU Flash.

I know some of you guys are zealots renowned for their super-faith here, wanting to out-zeal one another with pious slogans, but here the miracle just won't happen. :-(

JL Superman is above anyone in the MCU in combat speed, but Quicksilver is faster than all other DCEU Kryptonians

JL Supes > Quicksilver > The rest

QS was a barely perceivable blur while the camera was in slow motion.

This. People need to stop equating Superman to every single Kryptonian. It's frankly ridiculous. Batman and Captain Boomerang are both humans but there's an enormous efficiency gap between them. Wonder Woman and a random Amazon are astronomically different power-wise.

Lmao. That was a bunch of nonsense, kudos. I never seen someone write so much without making a valid point. Pretty sure Pietro was shot and killed by bullets. Diana casually sees bullets in slow motion and deflects them. And Superman is faster than her by a good margin.

Superman is at least hundreds of times faster, your mental gymnastics notwithstanding.

Superman > Quicksilver > DCEU kryptonians >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else

@odimm: Lmao. That was a bunch of nonsense, kudos. I never seen someone write so much without making a valid point. Pretty sure Pietro was shot and killed by bullets.

Completely irrelevant.

Diana casually sees bullets in slow motion

No, she doesn't - you are. You are via the director's powers of slomeau. These fast characters, they don't stop time - they don't have "bullet time" moments that conveniently extend ad infinitio. They just fast enough to cope with'em at normal speed. But you, the spectator, are not, so there's slomeau for you.

and deflects them. And Superman is faster than her by a good margin.

Big deal. Something like one CBC out of two can casually deflect bullets. MCU Thor deflects blasts of light. Yeah big deal indeed. And Superman was faster in JL merely because WW couldn't find her time-stopping switch for the duration of all the movie. Quite a speedster you've got there, but then your bar is quite low.

Superman is at least hundreds of times faster, your mental gymnastics notwithstanding.

No, sorry, he isn't. Not in combat speed. What you wrote has no basis but in your head. I gave a QS feat that Superman never came close to duplicating. If Superman is a speedster, then he's a failure as such.

Huh? Faora was faster than Supes.

@nucleon: You clearly don't know how movies are made. The directorial technique know as "bullet time" shows the perspective of that character, not the audience. Your logic is completely backwards and nonsensical. Wonder Woman has equivalent speed feats to Pietro. She can look at bullets in slower motion and actually react to them and not die, unlike QS. And Superman is faster than her and similar in speed to the Flash, who is also hundreds if not thousands of times faster than Pietro. Ergo, Flash>=Superman>Wonder Woman=Kyrptonians>Pietro. He wouldn't even be in the top 5 fastest DCEU characters lmao.

@odimm: You clearly don't know how movies are made. The directorial technique know as "bullet time" shows the perspective of that character, not the audience. Your logic is completely backwards and nonsensical.

So, Old West cowboys also have super powers of time-stopping?

This isn't how super-speed works: What you describe there is time-stopping, pure and simple. Fast characters don't need slomeau - you do.

Wonder Woman has equivalent speed feats to Pietro.

No, she doesn't.

Neither WW, Superman nor the Flash have any speed feat that even remotely compares to Pietro disarming that guy and lining up all of the magazine's bullets neatly on a table in a split second. Did you get that? The only thing you have to oppose to that is headcannon and lots, lots of cheap faith.

She can look at bullets in slower motion and actually react to them and not die, unlike QS. And Superman is faster than her and similar in speed to the Flash, who is also hundreds if not thousands of times faster than Pietro. Ergo, Flash>=Superman>Wonder Woman=Kyrptonians>Pietro. He wouldn't even be in the top 5 fastest DCEU characters lmao.

Flash, Wonder Woman and Superman have all been hit by way slower than bullets. In the Flash's case, he tripped on the inanimate, so, using your logic, he can't even outrun the inanimate. =)

Some speedsters you have.

@nucleon: If there's a cowboy scene that I don't know of where said cowboy displays bullet time feats then yeah. It's a directorial technique dude. It shows the characters perspective. Pretty sure Wonder Woman casually did that in a bar scene in her own movie and that's your standard for speed? Lmao at Flash or Superman not having better speed feats. They're hundreds of times faster than Pietro, who again was shot and killed by Mach 2 bullets which are easily dodged by Diana.

Some speedsters you had. LOL. Even Thor could perceive him and we know how bad his reactions are. Superman would dance circles around QS.

Arguably Quick Silver could. But based on feats alone, I wouldn't argue it.