In terms of Physical Strength, where would you rank these characters in order?

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The List (Not in order):

MCU Spider-Man

MCU Captain America

MCU Captain Marvel

MCU Hulk

MCU Thor

MCU Thanos

MCU Iron Man

DCEU Wonder Woman

DCEU Aquaman

DCEU Zod

DCEU Shazam

DCEU Superman

2006 Superman

Donner Superman

CW Supergirl

Brandon Breyer (Brightburn)

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Don't know about Donner Supes, 2016 Supes, Shazam and Bright burn.

From strongest to weakest-

CW Kara

Captain Marvel

DCEU Superman

DCEU Zod

Thanos

Hulk

Thor

Aquaman

Iron Man

Wonder Woman

Spider Man

Captain America

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Reeve Supes

Routh Supes

CW Kara

DCEU Supes

Binary CM

Thanos

Thor

Zod

Shazam

Hulk

WW

Iron Man (at his best)

Aquaman

Spiderman

Captain America

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Reeve Supes

Routh Supes

CW Kara

DCEU Supes

Zod

CM

Thanos

Shazam

Hulk

WW

Iron Man (at his best)

Aquaman

Spiderman

Captain America

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#6  Edited By KryptonianKing88  Online

Can't speak for some of these characters. Characters in bold/italics should be near equal

CW Supergirl - overpowered a FTL ship and threw Fort Rozz

MCU Thanos - Three times as strong as Thor, crushed the tesseract and a Thor-level being with his fingers

MCU Hulk - Bodyslammed Fenris (heavy enough to crack the Bifrost by running), twice as strong as Thor

MCU Captain Marvel - Threw a hypersonic 500 ton missile against its own thrusters, overpowered one of Thanos's arms (with some context)

MCU Thor - Moved giant space rings, lifted a giant space door

DCEU Superman - Moved a ship through ice, was able to move his limbs against skyscraper-crushing gravity, overpowered the JLA

DCEU Zod - comparable to Superman

MCU Iron Man - held up a large pillar for several minutes, able to briefly wrestle with Thanos and overpowered one of his arms with his entire body

DCEU Aquaman - lifted a submarine

DCEU Wonder Woman - lifted a tank, should be comparable to BvS Superman

DCEU Shazam - should be equal or greater than one of his brothers, who held up a ferris wheel

MCU Spider-Man - stopped a bell tower from falling

MCU Captain America - didn't budge from a punch from Thanos, overpowered a helicopter

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@joaquin_phoenix said:

Reeve Supes

Routh Supes

CW Kara

Post JL Supes

Thanos

CM

Zod/Pre JL Supes/BvS WW only

Hulk

Thor/WW

SHAZAM

Aquaman

Iron Man

Spiderman

Captain America

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Reeves / Routh Superman

Thanos

Captain Marvel

Hulk

Thor / Dceu Supes

Zod

Iron Man / Wonder Woman / Aquaman

Spider-Man

Captain America

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Reeves/Routh

CW Supergirl

DCEU Superman

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#10 ANTHP2000  Online

  1. MCU Captain Marvel
  2. MCU Thanos
  3. DCEU Superman
  4. MCU Hulk
  5. MCU Thor
  6. DCEU Zod
  7. DCEU Wonder Woman
  8. MCU Iron Man
  9. DCEU Aquaman
  10. MCU Spider-Man
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Going to disregard some characters as I don't really know to much about them.

1. Routh Superman.

2. MCU Captain Marvel

3. MCU Thanos

4a. DCEU Superman

4b. MCU Hulk

4c. MCU Thor

5. Dceu Zod

6. DCEU Wonder Woman

7. MCU Iron man

8. DCEU Shazam

9. DCEU Aquaman

10. MCU Spider man

11. MCU Caprain America

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For thoses who aren't sure about 2006 or Donner Supes, Routh lifted a massive island laced with Kryptonite while Reeve casually moved the moon in order to cause an eclipse.

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2006 Superman/Donner Superman

CW Supergirl

DCEU Superman

DCEU Zod

MCU Captain Marvel

MCU Thanos

DCEU Wonder Woman

MCU Thor

MCU Hulk

DCEU Shazam

MCU Iron Man

DCEU Aquaman

Brandon Breyer

MCU Spider-Man

MCU Captain America

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@juicers: routh and reeves superman are the exact same character

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To specify: Routh here only has feats from Superman Returns with Reeve having feats from films I-IV.

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I'll be back to this.

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Not sure Reeve should even be here with how much stronger he is than everyone else.

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  1. Donner Superman
  2. CW Supergirl
  3. DCEU Superman
  4. MCU Thanos
  5. MCU Captain Marvel
  6. MCU Hulk
  7. MCU Thor
  8. DCEU Zod
  9. DCEU Shazam
  10. MCU Iron Man
  11. DCEU Wonder Woman
  12. DCEU Aquaman
  13. MCU Spider-Man
  14. MCU Captain America
  15. 2006 Superman **Got bored; didn't finish it
  16. Brandon Breyer (Brightburn) **Didn't watch it; James Gunn
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#22  Edited By isaac_clarke

1. Christopher Reeve / Brandon Routh Superman

  • They're the same character / the moon feat is SA good. Admittedly, all his other feats are no where near as good because Superman's powers during his Christopher Reeve's tenure where pseudo reality warping, from being able to reverse time and rebuild the Great Wall Eye Beams.

2. MCU Thor

  • Post Odin's Death (and apparently getting the "power of the king" ) / Prior to gaining weight (and subsequently losing a good deal of his power, even if he began feeling the "lightning" coursing through his veins just before the 2nd snap, he's still much weaker at the end of Endgame.)
  • Nidavellir, the Sol Forge, is either the best comic book movie feat or the 2nd best one. Thor's literally twirling Rocket's pod with enough force to propel it to the speed necessary to move the giant gravity defying super-dense rings that don't instantly collapse into the star below (proximity to said star alone is where this feat breaks physics) and anchor himself into those rings / maintains his grip on Rocket's ship to restart the starforge.
  • Thor's acting as both a mechanism to propel Rocket's ship with enough force to move the rings with a twirl AND able to supercede that force by holding the ship / himself to the rings.

3. MCU Thanos

  • Thanos is stronger than Endgame Thor (based off their struggle over Stormbreaker, not by all that much). Folks putting Thanos above Thor are ignoring that at the start of Infinity War Thanos had the power-gem (which could one-shot Captain Marvel / destroy the surface of planets with a tap) Thor had no chance to win this fight after Ragnarok.
  • Thanos without using the Power Gem (except for maybe in the comic adaptation...) dominates the Hulk and takes on most of the Avengers in Endgame without breaking a sweat.
  • The only time he himself is defeated by anyone was against Scarlet Witch, who in AOU was tearing apart Ultron in his vibranium body (admittedly, after getting hit by a repulsor, Mjolnir and Infinity Gem combo attack).

4. DCEU Superman

  • In Justice League he's pretty casually defying gravity and carrying that entire building complex. This is the best strength feat I remember him doing and its good.
  • The only person with something better, which is a bit debatable in my mind because of how I understand her powers to work.

5. MCU Hulk

  • The Hulk could drop Chitauri Leviathans in single punches, totally stopping them in their tracks. Those same Chitauri Leviathans are as big as buildings, were too durable for even Iron Man's tank-busting mini-missiles (from the outside, ala Drax) and casually dropped buildings on their own.

6. MCU Captain Marvel (Binary)

  • Here's the thing, she's actually got more impressive feats than Superman. Folks are mentioning her stopping / pushing these massive world ending weapons moving at incredible speeds away, dropping Thanos' ship that carries his armies and even overpowering Thanos' hand - BUT her powers are a little funky.
  • She can move at FTL speeds. That's her power, she can grab Tony / Nebula from somewhere in space and drag them to Earth before IM dies from CO2 poisoning. She can similarly do this to really any object she's interacting with, negating any real weight or force being exerted against her.
  • She's drawing power externally. From the Kree ship when she first became Binary and was draining the energy from adjacent objects / the facility to easily take on her own team, to her brief interaction with Thanos when he had ALL the gems, objects of infinite power, she's in all likelihood at her most powerful fighting Thanos than at any other point because the IG is probably supercharging her.

7. Wonder Woman

  • She lifted that big tank and it was really big.

8. DCEU Zod

  • It's a tough sell for Zod who has notable feats of strength, beyond fighting DCEU Superman who could have ended their fight with a snap of the neck at any point.

9. Iron Man

  • Warmachine lifted a tank. Everyone loves a good Warmachine story.
  • By this point the lifting feats are vehicle related. Tony did drop a building on Thanos, but Titan's gravity was a bit whacky.

10. Aquaman

  • Jason Momoa did have some impressive strength in the water. Submersibles beware.

11. MCU Spiderman

  • "Wow, 3000 pounds, 40 miles per hour? Nice catch."
  • I mean, feat wise, Spiderman and Shazam are a lot closer than they should be. But, yeah, holding that ship together, for whatever amount of time, seems more impressive than a bus catch feat off a bridge.

. DCEU Shazam

  • He caught a bus!

12. Brightburn's Brandon Breyer

  • Picked up a truck easily and MAYBE picks up a passenger jet (or at least guides it into his farmhouse at the end of the movie.)
  • In hindsight, he's probably got better feats than Shazam too...

13. Captain America

  • Chris Evans can curl a helicopter back to the ground AFTER take off. Which admittedly Bucky was probably distracted by those biceps, impressive nonetheless!
  • Lifts those steel-supports off Bucky in Winter Soldier.
  • Damage Tony's suit.
  • Carter couldn't keep her hands off him post SS Serum process.

CW characters are massively inconsistent jobbers.

There's a reason why folks can say without missing a beat that MCU Cap would drop CW Barry Allen in a heart beat. Barry goes from catching multiple bullets aimed various characters mid-air or beating Zoom, to slipping on marbles. I'm not going to bother pretending there's any level of consistency in Supergirl that doesn't exist. She go from nearly being killed by misogynistic alien-dude-bros to catching falling planes in the same episode.

Eitherway, from 7 on, the feats aren't too drastically different anyway. There is occasional a plane catch or crash, but its mostly buses, trucks and cars.

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@isaac_clarke: Carol, Hulk and Thanos are all above Thor in strength in the MCU...

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@isaac_clarke: Carol, Hulk and Thanos are all above Thor in strength in the MCU...

I'd say read my post. But, no, they aren't.

Thanos came to the ruins of Asgard with his armies AND the power stone.

  • Ronan with the power stone was going to destroy Xander by tapping his hammer to the ground, Eson (?) leveled the surface of a planet with a tap.
  • As we saw later in the same movie, Thanos could use the power gem to protect himself from Wanda's attacks, hurl a moon (in conjunction with the space stone) out of the sky and one-shot Captain Marvel (Endgame).

Thanos can over power Thor in Endgame, with effort (as seen when they struggle against one another with Stormbreaker), but that was Thor at his lowest point.

There's a reason why a Mjolnir empowered Captain America can actually wreck the Mad Titan for a bit with Thor's pre-ragnarok level of strength/ lightning.

  • Thanos only gains the upperhand when he grab's Cap's arm to knock Mjolnir out of his hand. Post Ragnarok Thor is strong enough to drop an ENRAGED Hulk in single hits and bombard everyone around with lightning.

The Hulk has no physical strength feats on-par with Infinity War Thor, which is the Thor I'm using. Hell, Endgame Hulk, much like Endgame Thor, is probably the weakest of Hulks now with his arm injury.

Carol Danvers in Binary can propel objects she's interacting with at FTL speeds. She can even overpower Thanos' fingers / hand. BUT as far as I can tell that has more to do with how her powers work.

  • It doesn't matter how fast something she pushes against goes WHEN she can push back at FTL speeds.
  • If Binary, as its shown in her own movie, works enhancing Carol's powers from what's externally available, she's probably at her most powerful in Endgame.bexause she's fighting someone with Infinite Power in his hand.
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#25  Edited By Olubummo

LMAO, sometimes some people forget that all Superheros are Jobbers, some people will ignore the times when their Favorite Superheros was jobbing, but they will be talking about the times when another Superhero is jobbing.

• please, how does that show Good judgement???🤦

👉People who use the word ‛‛jobber’’ to judge between 2 different characters are Unwise, they show lack of good judgement. BECAUSE ALL CHARACTERS ARE VICTIM OF JOBBER.

->>> So MCU cap who struggles with slower opponents, MCU cap who struggles with Opponents ridiculously Slower than Barry, will drop CW Barry Allen in a heart beat?

How will MCU cap even drop Someone he can't Perceive?

-->>> Meh, Some people are dreaming😴

LOL, Barry can do countless things to MCU Cap, before his brain had the chance to fire a single synapse.

👉Battle Forum is about knowing a Character Capabilities and applying it to the situation at hand.

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@joaquin_phoenix said:

Reeve Supes

Routh Supes

CW Kara

DCEU Supes

Zod

CM

Thanos

Shazam

Hulk

WW

Iron Man (at his best)

Aquaman

Spiderman

Captain America

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@isaac_clarke: I mean half of what you wrote is absolutely nothing to do with physical strength in which Hulk and Thanos directly scale above Thor in due to feats against him alone nvm there singular feats. Carol has some on par and Thanos scaling arguably puts her above him to.

By feats, intent and actual film commentary Thor is below the three of them.

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1. MCU Cap

2. Everyone else

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#29  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@finalkingthanos:

Why is Hulk decisively stronger than Thor again? Is that off the A1 showing with a weakened Thor?

And Thor's stats is just as variable as Hulk's. Thor is mindset and willpower, the Hulk is rage. Statwise in the CQC clashes EG Thor is closer to Thanos than Hulk was. That's what happens with the Russos's direction - prime Thor remember? Because by this logic -

Weakened Thor < Ragnarok Thor < Hulk < Thor at his absolute strongest. Hulk only got his showing against Thanos by surprise, and he wasn't even peak Warrior Thanos either.

It's like saying Pre-Nuke DD > Superman stats because weakened Clark needed two hands to overpower his one. Smh. Hulk couldn't even KO Thor with 20 strikes. Thor severely dazed him with 1.

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@rajjarsalt: you think he was weakened for all of a1? I think he was weakened only in the forest.

Hulk in Ragnarok replicates the feat much better, stopping an overhead slam with just one arm.

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#31  Edited By Eredin12  Online

Reeves Superman

CW Supergirl

MCU Thanos -

MCU Hulk -

MCU Thor

MCU Carol

DCEU Superman -

DCEU Zod

MCU Iron Man -

DCEU Aquaman -

DCEU Wonder Woman -

DCEU Shazam -

MCU Spider-Man -

MCU Captain America

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@rajjarsalt: you think he was weakened for all of a1? I think he was weakened only in the forest.

Hulk in Ragnarok replicates the feat much better, stopping an overhead slam with just one arm.

I feel he was weakened at the beginning. Hulk fight is at the beginning after Thor agrees to put the hammer down. Odin got hospitalized by that feat btw. Thor wouldn't recover that easily.

Hulk also was visibly screaming in rage when that happened. If he didn't get enraged, he wouldn't have been able to stop the slam. You could also see that Thor's strikes never again moved Hulk that distance. Rage-amp.

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@rajjarsalt: you have two instances of Thor getting overpowered or matched by Hulk with one arm (both times he was quite pissed)

Against Thanos, I think Hulk did as good or slightly better. Hulk was in a very fair competition of strength, his two arms against Thanos though he had slightly better leverage. Thanks grits his teeth here but still quickly overpowers him

Thor vs Thanos has three noteworthy instances

Thor disarming Thanos, he makes him strain after forcing him to block an overhead slam and disarms him with electromagnetism

Thanos nearly killing Thor. Thor slows Stormbreskers descent though is clearly overpowered. I personally think Thanos was being a sadist here. Also, Thor might have had better leverage off the ground

Thor’s attempted decap. Thanks catches a swing, Thor uses Mjolnir to weigh his arm down, and Cap seals the deal. Thor needed stormbresker and mjolnir to match Thanos or slightly overpower him

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#34  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@kryptonianking88 said:

@rajjarsalt: you have two instances of Thor getting overpowered or matched by Hulk with one arm (both times he was quite pissed)

Against Thanos, I think Hulk did as good or slightly better. Hulk was in a very fair competition of strength, his two arms against Thanos though he had slightly better leverage. Thanks grits his teeth here but still quickly overpowers him

Thor vs Thanos has three noteworthy instances

Thor disarming Thanos, he makes him strain after forcing him to block an overhead slam and disarms him with electromagnetism

Thanos nearly killing Thor. Thor slows Stormbreskers descent though is clearly overpowered. I personally think Thanos was being a sadist here. Also, Thor might have had better leverage off the ground

Thor’s attempted decap. Thanks catches a swing, Thor uses Mjolnir to weigh his arm down, and Cap seals the deal. Thor needed stormbresker and mjolnir to match Thanos or slightly overpower him

Thor was weakened the first, and Hulk had a rage amp the second.

Hulk had better leverage than Thanos and Thanos still pulled his arms off, and Hulk couldn't even do anything about it. His grip went from 100 to 0 like that.

How do you know electromagnetism was the reason Thanos got disarmed, and not Thor flicking SB back?

How could Thor have better leverage? Thanos beat the $hit out of him and then is pushing on SB's hammer end - he has more SA to exert pushing force.

If Thor used Mjolnir to weigh Thanos's arm down, Thanos's arm would have dropped due to enchantment. You yourself stated that Thanos actually was pushing back when Thor's left hand let go of SB. If anything, Thor's just getting better leverage by pressing Mjolnir onto SB, because he can't exert more force due to a weapon being in his hand. His left hand doesn't get stronger now that Mjolnir is in it. Thanos just can't do anything pushing wise with his hand because the only thing he can grab is SB's top or its blade. Independently, the debate starts and ends at the fact that Thanos visibly dropped to his knee. It's just not captured on screen like the CM scene is. Thor overpowered Thanos, a foe stronger than him, and let's face it, so did CM.

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@rajjarsalt: He also likely had a rage amp against Thanos, having seen Asgardians get slaughtered and likely fighting random mooks offscreen

You can see lightning clinging to the sword when Thor flicks up. I also doubt he would be able to do that normally since Stormbreamer isn’t hooked. He also used lightning to fling away opponents in Ragnarok

Thanos is bending over while Thor is essentially performing a benchpress. The way he’s gripping it is

also not ideal

It’s not from the worthiness. Maybe TK? But it’s definitely helped in overpowering his arm. Thor rests his arm on top of Thanos’s with the hammer pointed to the ground. just logically it makes sense, why would Thor go for the hammer and risk getting his ax ripped from him if it wouldn’t make a difference?

The third showing is pretty consistent with his performance against Hulk. Thor can match him with one hand given superior leverage (helicarrier) though needs two to do it securely. With a sufficient rage amp, Thor is outclassed in strength, he got his overhead swing with a fodder hammer stopped with one arm by hulk and he got his stormbreaker swing caught with one arm by Thanos

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@rajjarsalt: it’s always fun arguing/discussing with you, but that’ll be it for tonight. I can continue tomorrow if you want

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The Top three are Kryptonians.

Reeve Supes

Ruth Supes

Kara (CW)

The last two can actually be interchangeable. I don’t know about the rest.

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The only superman I know about is DCEU version and idk who Brandon is. also don't know a whole lot on Kara so I'll skip her. (my rankings based off picture depictions [sometimes])

1. IW Thor

2. Post-Resurrection Supe (very close to tie with Thor)

3. DCEU Zod

4. MCU Captain Marvel

5. EG Thanos

6. Ragnarok Hulk

7. DCEU Shazam

8. DCEU Wonder Woman (very close to tie with Shazam)

9. DCEU Aquaman

10. IW Iron Man

11. MCU Spider Man

12. MCU Captain America

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1. Routh/Reeve Superman

2. CW Supergirl

3. DCEU Supeman

4. MCU Thanos

5. DCEU Zod

6. MCU Captain Marvel

7. MCU Hulk

8. MCU Thor

9. DCEU Diana

10. MCU Iron Man

11. Brandon Breyer

12. DCEU Shazam

13. MCU Spider-Man

14. MCU Captain America

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Good to see that almost everyone puts CW Kara above every other contemporary high tier characters.

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@rajjarsalt: lmao

He was weakened in a comic and shows no signs of it in the film and even if he was it's not for the entire film.

Hulk has been shown to be much stronger than Thor since A1 to EG especially in direct comparison to one another.

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@rajjarsalt: lmao

He was weakened in a comic and shows no signs of it in the film and even if he was it's not for the entire film.

Hulk has been shown to be much stronger than Thor since A1 to EG especially in direct comparison to one another.

Didn't Loki like make a snide comic about it tho?

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#44  Edited By RajjarsAlt

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@rajjarsalt: Hmmm which comment?

Loki somehow knew the method Odin used, and somehow implied that it would have taken a lot - given his question being like "how much dark energy did the Allfather had to conjure you up here."

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@rajjarsalt: True forgot about that I still dont see him as being weak by the time he fights Hulk though especially comparing their feats in the final battle then AOU then Raganrok, Hulk always outclassed him physically.

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1. is MCU Surtur

2. DCEU Doomsday

3. MCU Hela

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  1. Thanos
  2. Hulk
  3. Captain Marvel (might be #1)
  4. Thor
  5. Iron Man
  6. Superman
  7. Zod
  8. Wonder Woman
  9. Aquaman
  10. Spider-man
  11. Shazam

Not sure where to put Supergirl.

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>Iron Man above Superman and Zod

Weren't you debating whether Superman is planetary from the motherbox feat?

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#49  Edited By BladeOfFury

@kryptonianking88: From the motherbox statement, and I'm leaning towards no.

And what's Superman's best strength feat? Carrying that building?

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@bladeoffury: He's able to crush a diamond to power by statements