If MCU Thor Busts a Planet in Love and Thunder, Would You Accept it?

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Poll If MCU Thor Busts a Planet in Love and Thunder, Would You Accept it? (139 votes)

Yes, I Would Accept the Feat 50%
No, It Would Be an Outlier 18%
Depends on How He Does It 32%
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If MCU Thor busts a planet in Love and Thunder, would you accept it or not?

So many CVers say he did not take the full force of the neutron star Nidavellir, did not take a city vaporizing atomic blast to the face in Sokovia, did not resist the full force of the Reality Stone in Dark World. Or they lowball those things / call them outliers.

So I'm genuinely curious how CV will react if Thor busts a planet in his next movie.

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#1  Edited By Cristhian97

If it is a clear cut planet busting scene with Thor using his own powers i don't see why anyone should reject it, bu if it's unclear it will only create more controversy

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#2  Edited By heiqn

Full force of reality stone should be universal, so it's outlier. City&Star feats are obvious, it's DCEU fans coping

if he scales to a character who directly busted a planet on-screen like Gorr, no one can argue anymore

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#3  Edited By heiqn
@cristhian97 said:

If it is a clear cut planet busting scene with Thor using his own powers i don't see why anyone should reject it, bu if it's unclear it will only create more controversy

Can you check your PM

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were there any recent leaks or spoilers?

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@heiqn said:

Full force of reality stone should be universal, so just take it out. City&Star feats are obvious, it's just DCEU fans coping

If he busts a planet on-screen or he scales to a character who directly busted planet on-screen, E.G Gorr, no one can argue he doesn't have planetary AP and Durability anymore.

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My understanding of this scene is that the Reality Stone is actively in the process of destroying the universe at this moment. Thor wades through the eye of its storm, immediately after Jane Foster says she and Erik Selvig cannot get close enough. Then Thor overcomes the Reality Stone's power, survives a point-blank blast to the face as that power explodes from Malekith, and stops the Dark Elf from destroying the universe. Is that not what's happening here?

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depends on the effort. If its something with medium effort, then non outlier

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@heiqn said:

Full force of reality stone should be universal

, so just take it out. City&Star feats are obvious, it's just DCEU fans coping

If he busts a planet on-screen or he scales to a character who directly busted planet on-screen, E.G Gorr, no one can argue he doesn't have planetary AP and Durability anymore.

tbh selvigs gravimetric spikes survived reality stone explosion

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@darkthunder: Yeah it's %100 inconsistent. Only can be used as bait.

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@heiqn said:

Full force of reality stone should be universal

, so just take it out. City&Star feats are obvious, it's just DCEU fans coping

If he busts a planet on-screen or he scales to a character who directly busted planet on-screen, E.G Gorr, no one can argue he doesn't have planetary AP and Durability anymore.

tbh selvigs gravimetric spikes survived reality stone explosion

Selvig's gravimetric spikes were designed to negate the effects of the Convergence, which opens portals between galaxies. In Selvig's previous appearance, he created a machine capable of harnessing the power of the Tesseract. Selvig lowkey is a Stark-Banner-level genius. That's a feat for the gravimetric spikes, and Selvig. Not an anti-feat for the Reality Stone explosion.

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@parkerkent:

Yeah, no

The grass was fine after.

It was heavily implied thor would have died if malekith ship crashed on him.

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@organic:

@parkerkent:

Yeah, no

The grass was fine after.

It was heavily implied thor would have died if malekith ship crashed on him.

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It was heavily implied Jane THOUGHT the ship would have killed Thor. She loves him and yet knows relatively little about his physiology.

As for the grass, the buildings, etc. that survived the explosion, that reality stone blast occurred between the bodies of Thor and Malekith. Two ancient beings capable of tanking and wielding cosmic weapons.

The logic of the grass being fine so the reality stone explosion was weak is the same logic as a Leviathan in Avengers not demolishing a car it lands upon so the Leviathan must be lightweight.

For context, the reality stone explosion knocked out Thor. Before then, neither Kurse, a rampaging Hulk, nor the Rainbow Bridge Bifrost explosion had knocked out Thor.

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@parkerkent:

Yeah,no

It was heavily implied thor would have died if malekith ship landed on him.

Your spin on janes thoughts= pure fecal headcanon

A leviathin isnt heavy because WE CLEARLY see it do zero damage to a taxi cab. = truth hurts

Hulk waa ko my cement weights.

Thor has never ko the hulk

And?

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@organic said:

@parkerkent:

Yeah,no

It was heavily implied thor would have died if malekith ship landed on him.

Your spin on janes thoughts= pure fecal headcanon

A leviathin isnt heavy because WE CLEARLY see it do zero damage to a taxi cab. = truth hurts

Hulk waa ko my cement weights.

Thor has never ko the hulk

And?

Thank you.

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No, CV will headcanon it for years like with Hela or the star feat

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he aint gonna tho

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#18  Edited By RJR

If its shown on screen yes. It also depends if it's from his natural abilities and not some temporary amp like KOTM burning godzilla.

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if he gets an amp in the film then yes it would be a notable and usable feat

if he doesn’t and regular thor performs a planet busting attack then unfortunately for many people it would be another outlier

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@akz said:

@morghulis said:

It’ll be an outlier because his feats are nothing on a level like this

But he gets stronger overtime?

OT: yes

But you normally don’t jump from, let’s say “city-level” to ‘planet-level’ or even ‘moon-level’, and if so, it’s one crazy amp you’ve got there. So this is my reasoning and belief on why such a feat for Thor would be outlier-ish.

Of course the logic that it would be a crazy amp, instead of a reasonable amp, relies on the belief that he didn't already get two amps. From my view, his first amp occurred in Ragnorak when he became able to summon Hulk dazing / Bifrost Bridge busting lightning without Mjolnir, and his second amp came at Nidavellir when he took the full force of a neutron star then went on to impale Thanos with Stormbreaker. From there it is a reasonable amp to planet busting.

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Heavily context dependent. Intuitively it strikes me as a gross outlier, but there's some mumbo jumbo about the Odinforce or draining his life energy or some chain reaction or whatever...maybe?

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It'd be a massive outlier unless he does that after a power up.

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If it is an awakening moment or permanent AMP in the movie then you have no choice but to accept it.

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@morghulis:

Any feats Post Amp have no reason to be deemed as an outlier. Amps are new baseline for characters.

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@parkerkent:

Of course the logic that it would be a crazy amp, instead of a reasonable amp, relies on the belief that he didn't already get two amps. From my view, his first amp occurred in Ragnorak when he became able to summon Hulk dazing / Bifrost Bridge busting lightning without Mjolnir, and his second amp came at Nidavellir when he took the full force of a neutron star then went on to impale Thanos with Stormbreaker. From there it is a reasonable amp to planet busting.

The only problem I have with the post here is the “taking the full force of a neutron star” part… before I make any full assumptions, where exactly would you place the Nidavellir feat?

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That's tricky to answer because MCU Thor's powers relevant to your question, by CV rules, count largely as hax through Stormbreaker. The axe gives him rejuvenation / near resurrection ability. Rocket said Thor was dying after taking the star and Eitri said Thor needed the axe, which brought him back to prime condition. The axe also opens the Bifrost which Heimdall said in Thor 1 could destroy Jotunheim and Loki proceeded to attempt. Hell, in Thor 1 the Destroyer pimp smacked mortal form Thor onto the brink of death and Thor summoned Mjolnir to instantly restore himself to full power. So Thor does currently have everything he needs to both survive the full force of a star and bust a planet through Stormbreaker. The problem with this logic is that if someone can separate Thor from his axe before he opens the Bifrost, then he can't planet bust, and if someone throws him into a star while somehow keeping Stormbreaker from Thor's grasp, he will die. So I honestly don't know how to place the Nidavellir feat. But I will say planet level since it almost killed him, yet he ultimately got up just fine.

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@j_normal said:

If it is an awakening moment or permanent AMP in the movie then you have no choice but to accept it.

Facts but already know the people who aren’t gonna accept it lmaooo

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#31  Edited By KaiThighJu

Without a doubt yes

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@morghulis: @morghulis:

Agreed on the scaling. The way I see it Thor’s tenure is nearing the end and he’ll be taking up Odin’s mantle separating himself from the main roster. This making Gorr his last villian and giving Jane Thor’s role as an avenger.

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regardless if you accept the feat or not, Thor would still be put at planetary(in attack potency)

Obviously it depends on how Thor gets the planetary feat because if its like a chain reaction that ends up destroying a planet, he wouldn't be considered planetary.

However, if he straight up just blows up the planet in one blast then we clearly know he reached planetary attack potency

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#34 krisbishop  Moderator

if he gets an amp in the film then yes it would be a notable and usable feat

if he doesn’t and regular thor performs a planet busting attack then unfortunately for many people it would be another outlier

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if he gets an amp in the film then yes it would be a notable and usable feat

if he doesn’t and regular thor performs a planet busting attack then unfortunately for many people it would be another outlier

I think it’s clear he’ll get an amp with an easy explanation.

Either of those two.

1. Training

2. Thor-Force

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Yeah. That is how feats work.

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@goldeneagle:

Yeah. That is how feats work.

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Agreed. And yet 50% of voters here aren’t with that concept.

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#40  Edited By JediSympathiz3r

I would think it’s an outlier unless he got an in universe amp or something like that

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#41  Edited By Zafros13

To interpret it to be as consistent as possible, the planet being a small planet should be assumed.

It would also make me believe that IW Thor would beat EG Thanos.

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#42 nwname  Moderator

There is nothing planet level about that feat. Youd need to take the entire output of the sun for a bit more than a week straight to destroy Earth. Output of a tiny neutron star is far less (Output of an average isolated neutron star is in megatons/s range) and Thor taking the entirety of that output is a logical impossibility as it is used to power the forge and melt uru.

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consistency is irrerelevant when characters have like only a few dozen or so feats and are seemingly growing stronger in each installment

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Def depends. If he gets a confirmed amp (not just "new movie = better Thor) and no anti-feats, then absolutely the Thunder God is a planet buster. If he gets no amp and busts a planet I think we can all agree it's an outlier.

However, if Gorr busts a planet and Thor fights him... that's where things get interesting. We'll have to wait and see.

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@nwname said:

There is nothing planet level about that feat. Youd need to take the entire output of the sun for a bit more than a week straight to destroy Earth. Output of a tiny neutron star is far less (Output of an average isolated neutron star is in megatons/s range) and Thor taking the entirety of that output is a logical impossibility as it is used to power the forge and melt uru.

What if a tablespoonful of a neutron star was brought to Earth?

From a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) expert writing on Astronomy.com: "A tablespoon of neutron star weighs more than 1 billion tons (900 billion kg) — the weight of Mount Everest. So while you could lift a spoonful of Sun, you can’t lift a spoonful of neutron star ... A spoonful of neutron star suddenly appearing on Earth’s surface would cause a giant explosion, and it would probably vaporize a good chunk of our planet with it."

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@nwname: It is not any less than large country though since the energy was enough to melt down Neutron Star material.

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The thing about Thor’s Nidavellir feat on battle forums is that so many people lowball it or deny it because it does not fit their imagination of what a neutron star is … even though nobody in real life has ever been close to a neutron star to view it firsthand, reputable astrophysicists admit they lack the science to specify the size limits of neutron stars before they become black holes, and both Thor and Eitri state outright the qualities to acknowledge. Thor calls it a neutron star. Eitri says Thor must take the full force of a star. It is the literal definition of headcanon to imagine Nidavellir to be anything else.

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#49  Edited By Zafros13

@parkerkent: "it does not fit their imagination of what a neutron star is"

If you look at the star before it lights up it looks like a machine. They don't look like that.

Neutron stars don't get turned on.

Rocket was standing over Thor with a neutron star nearby, when you'd think he should have been caught on fire.

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Sure but it would be nice if it were due to an actual power up rather than the "you don't need a hammer until you do" broken logic. Give him the actual thor force.