Hyperion(Earth-13034), marvels Superman respect thread

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I saw everything perish, yes. That much is true. But it didn't claim me. I remained apart from it. I am its opposing force. I am the sun--and I have no use for death.

Hyperion background is pretty Superman-esq with some changes but I’ll summarize it anyway. Basically he was the last eternal and went to earth as a baby in an escape pod to earth or whatever. He was raised by one of the locals and became a hero. But his universe was in a “white event“ and was destroyed with him being the only survivor. He was then pulled into the 616 universe and became an avengers(eventually). But despite that he is still a decently inserting character and as some pretty good feats.

Databook

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(Avengers Now!)

physiologically

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States he dosen’t need to eat,drink or breath and seems to absorb sunlight

(Avengers(2013) issue 4)

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States how his memory works

(Avengers(2013) issue 12)

Strength

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holds to planets apart until the universes blow up

(Avengers(2013) issue 4)

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Rips high evolutionarily arm off

(Avengers(2013) issue 13)

One shots terminus who was giving Thor a hard time

(Avengers(2013) issue 13)

Catches and slows down a rouge planet moving at 500,000 mphr

(Avengers(2013) issue 24)

Rips apart one of Ironman’s suits

(Avengers(2013) issue 30)

Stomps a bunch of beekeepers

(Avengers world issue 6)

Thinks about stomping the mauler

(Avengers(2013) issue 34.1)

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Punches namor into the ground

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 1)

rips up and destroys the city of Atlantis

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 1)

Despite not wanting to fight he still beats johnny storm

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 3)

Fights off a bunch of Beyonder with Thor but dies in the end

(New avengers(2013) issue 32)

While weakened he fights for a bit arkon and smashes him through a magical crystal(albeit said crystal was internally weakened)

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 5)

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Takes out a bunch of super carnes with a truck

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 2)

Beats up a bunch of super carnies

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 4)

Beats up ironman

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 6)

Nukes an area just by flying into it really fast

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 6)

Stalemates blue marvel for a bit

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 10)

Breaks into the Thunderbolts hideout

(Thunderbolts(2016) issue 4)

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Stomps a bunch of sheild agents in power suits

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 14)

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Hurts Thor with a punch

(Superior Spider-Man team up issue 1)

Durability

takes multiple blows from a mind controlled hulk and comes out fine

(Avengers(2013) issue 3)

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Shrugs off a blast from high evolutionary

(Avengers(2013) issue 13)

Laughs off hits from Thor,hulk and captain marvel

(Superior Spider-Man team up issue 1)

Takes multiple blows from smasher/messenger but dosen’t seem that bothered

(Avengers world issue 6)

No sells everything the mauler throws at him

(Avengers(2013) issue 34.1)

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Takes some punch’s from namor

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 1)

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Tanks a blast from johnny storm

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 3)

Takes a blast from the original human Torch

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 3)

Survives a bolt and lightning from arkon and a high fall without his powers

(Thunderbolts(2016) issue 4)

Takes multiple punch’s from thundra

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 5)

No sells a punch from Spider-Man

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 11)

Is one of the lady’s ones standing in a future war that killed the likes of thing,kid nova,Jane Thor,hulk,namor and Hercules

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 14)

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Gets up from a blast the floored Captain marvel

(Infinity vol 1 issue 6)

Gets stabbed by Corvus’s atom cutting sword but it dosen’t go all the way through

(Infinity vol 1 issue 6)

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Tanks being hit by the winter soilder and the fixer

(Thunderbolts(2016) issue 4)

Survives being blasted away by thanos

(infinity vol 1 issue 6)

Speed

Takes out terminus before Thor’s lighting can touch it

(Avengers(2013) issue 13)

Gets to space quickly

(Avengers(2013) issue 34.1)

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Moves faster then cannball and sunspot

(Avengers world issue 14)

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Seemgly moves as fast as dr spectrum and blurr

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 6)

Flies from Fallon , Nevada to Sumatra and back in a minute

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 7)

Tags spider man

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 11)

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Gets to a portal faster then the power princess

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 11)

Reacts to a blitz from a bloodlusted namor

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 1)

Catches a rouge planet moving at 500,000 mphr

Atomic Vision

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Hurts ex nihilo with his atomic vision(who could Shrug offa supernova)

(Avengers(2013) issue 3)

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Sends a mind controlled hulk flying with a blast

(Avengers(2013) issue 3)

destroys something that Thor lighting could barley but a dent in

(Avengers(2013) issue 4)

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Blasts into high evolutionarys hideout

(Avengers(2013) issue 13)

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One shots ironman’s armor with a blast

(Superior Spider-Man team up issue 1)

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Hurts hulk with a blast

(Superior Spider-Man team up issue 1)

One shots thorr with a surprise attack

(Avengers(2013) issue 27)

Implies his atomic vision is as fast as light

(New avengers(2013) issue 32)

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Blasts through a super skrull

(Avengers vol 6 issue 0)

One shots namor

(Squadron supreme vol 4 issue 1)

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Hurts moonstone with a blast

(Thunderbolts(2016) issue 4)

Kills leviathans

(The mighty Captain marvel issue 7)

Kills corvus(albiet he was hurt before Hyperion killed him)

(Infinity vol 1 issue 6)

Helps starbrand and Thor kill black priest

Healing Factor

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Worm boy chewed at Hyperions heart and he survived

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 3)

Regens instantly after worm boy leaves his body

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 4)

Healed quickly after his eyes we’re gouged out by a Beyonder

(New avengers(2013) issue 32)

Heals after being cut by Corvus’s and blasted away by thanos

(infinity vol 1 issue 6)

Supervision

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States that he can see electrons orbiting nuclei

(Avengers(2013) issue 4)

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can see six miles away with with some weird vision

(Avengers(2013) issue 4)

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States that he can see through walls

(Superior Spider-Man team up issue 1)

He can see dna in the carpet

(Avengers(2013) issue 34.1)

Can look at coral and dna and people all the way up in orbit(or higher I’m not sure)

(Avengers(2013) issue 34.1)

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states that he can see the micro and macro realm

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can see many black priests

(New avengers(2013) issue 27)

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He can see fifty two miles away

(infinite vol 1 issue 6)

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He can see thundra’s finger prints

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 5)

Super senses

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He can tell it’s thundra without her even saying anything

(Hyperion vol 1 issue 5)

Conclusion

Despite the fact that Hyperion has manly been a background character he still has some pretty good feats, scaling and abilities that makes him a powerhouse.

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is this a respect thread? nice

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#3  Edited By phisigmatau

@alphamon:

Hyperion cool

I like kallark to

Nice work!

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@alphamon:

His showing in infinity was absolutely classic!

Still think Thor did the best tho.

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@alphamon:

His showing in infinity was absolutely classic!

Still think Thor did the best tho.

What did Hyperion do in Infinity? He didn't really do anything and Thor got slapped aside like he was nothing, pretty much all of them did, the only one that did anything memorable was Hulk with the star stuff and that's about it.

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#7  Edited By Alphamon

@underfire47: survived getting shanked by Corvus’s and regening and killing courvus(but he was injured before that happened so eh)

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@alphamon: Is that much of a feat? He survived a wound(collapsed unconscious later) that Captain America would survive as well, so i am not sure what's so special about it, he killed Corvus(who isn't really impressive by himself as in he isn't a high-tier) after Corvus was already hit by an attack that he would have died from regardless, Hyperion just sped it up by burning him.

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@underfire47: ya seeing as it didn’t go all the way through despite the fact that the spear can cut atoms and stuff so I’d say it’s a decent feat and he didn’t collapse into unconsciousness he just fell to his knees, when did courvus stab cap? I already said he was injured before Hyperion killed him

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#10  Edited By phisigmatau

@alphamon:

Thor definetly had the most impressive offense in the whole fight by knocking Thanos back with lightning. He smacked away everyone else like they were nothing. Hyperion took out Corpus or whatever his name is pretty impressive too..

I'm not gonna go back and forth with feats. The granduer of that battle was amazing. Much better then endshames battle. Tho I'm not totally happy about Thane causing the victory

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@alphamon: The spear is only gonna go as much as it's thrust in and there was no mention how his hide is thick or he has trouble piercing him, etc... If anything it seems it was easier to pierce him with it than Hulk. No he didn't just fall on his knees, he fell face first almost kissing the ground

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and wasn't seen for the rest of the fight until it was over. Also i never said Corvus stabbed Cap i said the stab Corvus gave to Hyperion is one even a street tier like Cap could survive, so it's not much of a feat, it would have been if he like pierced his heart and Hyperion survived that but he just grazed his chest and shoulder. Yes i know and i am reinforcing what you said.

Anyway there are a few inaccuracies regarding your RT, but i am too lazy to go over them all, although i know a few other people will point them out, but most importantly this is like the 15th RT i've seen on this character. I have no idea why people do so many RT's on him, especially considering apart from a handful of feats he really wasn't anything special and is overall a pretty bland and shitty character.

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@alphamon:

Thor definetly had the most impressive offense in the whole fight by knocking Thanos back with lightning. He smacked away everyone else like they were nothing. Hyperion took out Corpus or whatever his name is pretty impressive too..

I'm not gonna go back and forth with feats. The granduer of that battle was amazing. Much better then endshames battle. Tho I'm not totally happy about Thane causing the victory

Thor couldn't even phase Thanos with lightning, in fact Thanos was mocking him and asking him if that's the best he had and even shrugged of a Mljonir strike to the neck which is a free shot Thanos gave to him. Thanos actually KO'd Thor casually in the issue with a single eye beam and then smacked him into the ground with a casual punch after Thor came back later on in the issue.

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@underfire47:

Definitely not what happened..you're exaggerating points that support your bias and ignoring or drowning points that go against your bias..it is what it is on CV I'm not silly enough to argue.

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@underfire47: and? Courvus was clearly trying to kill him especially since the blade was sticking in him and Hyperion had to pull it out

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ok and? My point was that he didn’t fall unconscious. I doubt it. There’s litterly only one or two other rt on this version of Hyperion, that’s about it.

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@phisigmatau: Thor comes in and hits Thanos with lightning, Thanos mockingly says "do it again", Thor hits him again and Thanos says "is that all?"

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Thor then comes down and hits him in the neck with Mljonir, if you are counting this is so far 3 free shots Thanos gave him that did nothing seeing as Thanos literally shrugs it all off, stops another Mljonir strike with 1 arm

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and then punches Thor into the ground and the "fight" between them is over

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And before all of this, he took him out with an eye beam, where Thor was not seen for several pages

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Please tell me what points I am being "biased" against of "drowning" or whatnot, considering i am literally explaining and quoting the pages of the comic itself?

You know it's always funny when i see fanboys call me "biased" in anything, which is actually just codespeak for "you aren't wanking my favorite character as much as I am".

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#17  Edited By Underfire47

@alphamon: and? Courvus was clearly trying to kill him especially since the blade was sticking in him and Hyperion had to pull it out

What do you mean and? The blade never even went into him, he literally sidestepped it, it went OVER his chest and shoulder, not into it

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ok and? My point was that he didn’t fall unconscious. I doubt it. There’s litterly only one or two other rt on this version of Hyperion, that’s about it.

Once again what do you mean Ok and? He did fall unconscious, because he was not seen for the rest of the fight, that or he was immobilized, take your point the end result was the same, him getting grazed across his chest took him out of the fight.

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3xaqml/respect_hyperion_marvel_earth13034/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/hyperion-576/hyperion-respect-thread-1602184/

https://aminoapps.com/c/comics/page/blog/hyperion-earth-13034-respect-thread/55iV_uPbRxDr0Paeeb5nvm1oZPZPaE

You can find 3 immediately with a simple google search.

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Man why do planetary feats always look so stupid lol.

Anyways, nice respect thread.

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@underfire47: and next time we see him he is clearly pulling it out

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By that logic hyperion one shot hulk with his atomic vision since we didn’t see him until later on in his fight with Thor and cap marvel, ya he was out of the fight but it wasn’t just a ”graze”

well it looks like I missed the amino one

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#21  Edited By Underfire47

@alphamon: and next time we see him he is clearly pulling it out

He isn't "pulling it out" because it never went IN, he just grabbed it to move it because it sliced him skin deep and was still sitting on his chest.

By that logic hyperion one shot hulk with his atomic vision since we didn’t see him until later on in his fight with Thor and cap marvel, ya he was out of the fight but it wasn’t just a ”graze”

Did Hulk fall on the floor? Did he get blasted away? Are you being intentionally obtuse or do you genuinely don't know the difference on how to frame things when a character is hit by something and was still shown standing and a character that falls to the ground almost kissing the floor, literally gurgling words in his mouth?

What is it more if not just a graze? The spear never even went into him tip first, it sliced him, it didn't actually stab him.

well it looks like I missed the amino one

Don't worry there are probably more out there.

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@underfire47: if that was the case then it would have been in the exact same spot but it clearly wasn’t

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Seeing as courvus stabbed him with it in the background

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no I understand I’m just basing this off of him getting hurt and not shown until very later on and seeing as he didn’t try to do anything even when hyper was closer to the ground

ya it didn’t go in top first but courvus probably just stabbed him later on

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@alphamon: if that was the case then it would have been in the exact same spot but it clearly wasn’t

It wasn't because he already moved it with his hand, also this is a comic, not a video or a picture of a real life event, artist don't draw things to be exactly the same from panel to panel.

Seeing as courvus stabbed him with it in the background

That background image doesn't show anything different.

no I understand I’m just basing this off of him getting hurt and not shown until very later on and seeing as he didn’t try to do anything even when hyper was closer to the ground

Then that's a very dumb way to base things of, just being hurt and not being shown for a couple of pages doesn't mean you are KO'd. Also he did do something when Hyperion was closer to the ground, he grabbed him and slammed him into it.

ya it didn’t go in top first but courvus probably just stabbed him later on

Baseless assumption.

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@underfire47: true but that would have drawn it to still be at least somewhat similar, by the time we see them agian the spear is in a clearly different position then before

it shown Corvus pushing it in while Hyperion is trying to stop it

oh the irony. Ya after Thor slapped him back directly on the ground

makes more since then what your trying say

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@alphamon: true but that would have drawn it to still be at least somewhat similar, by the time we see them agian the spear is in a clearly different position then before

It is similar, that's the point, the difference is it was no longer being held by Corvus, Corvus wasn't holding the spear at that point any longer, Hyperion was so obviously wouldn't be in the exact same place it was in a previous panel.

it shown Corvus pushing it in while Hyperion is trying to stop it

He was slicing him with it.

oh the irony. Ya after Thor slapped him back directly on the ground

What's the irony? Yea, but you said Hulk didn't do anything when he was closer to the ground. Do you still not get the difference between the Hulk and Hyperion example? If Hulk got hit by Hyperion atomic vision and was shown falling to the ground while gurgling his words like he is choking on his own fluids and then wasn't shown for the rest of the comic until AFTER the fight was over than you would have a point, otherwise this is one of the dumbest attempts at a gotcha i have seen.

makes more since then what your trying say

Making up stuff that isn't shown on the pages of the comic makes more sense than me stating exactly what happened on the pages of the comic?

I guess that makes sense since your entire RT is filled with lies and inaccuarcies from nonsense like Hyperion stopped a rogue planet(he didn't he only slowed it down) to saying he beat Arkon(he never did they literally just stopped fighting after the spell was lifted) to saying he no sold a punch from Spider-Man as you show images of Spider-man punching Warrior Woman and not Hyperion, etc...

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@underfire47: the only difference would be that hyperion had taken it out or was just touching and we clearly see it’s in a much different position of penterating his skin

Looks like his stabbing but whatever

ya because he didn’t. Hyperion wasn’t even “gurgling on his words” he was groaning in pain seeing as he was just saying “uhhhhh”,ya expect clearly could have done something but he didn’t until very later o and seeing as things like getting stunned or getting your bearings don’t exist I guess he just got KOed for a bit. And this is the dumbest conclusion I have seen to a characters stats off screen

Dude your litterly assuming he was KOed with no visual evidence even though he was clearly shown to be concession when he was last on panel

So me were it’s stated he just slowed it down, ok fair enough on the arkon part, spidey was just being mentally messed with to believe hyperion(and the rest of the squadron,I think) was warrior Woman but if you don’t believe look at the issue yourself

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@alphamon: the only difference would be that hyperion had taken it out or was just touching and we clearly see it’s in a much different position of penterating his skin

It's not in a much different position lol, it was still in contact with his chest just like before, the only difference is he pulled it back a bit.

Looks like his stabbing but whatever

The first hit here is stabbing

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and this is slicing

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ya because he didn’t. Hyperion wasn’t even “gurgling on his words” he was groaning in pain seeing as he was just saying “uhhhhh”,ya expect clearly could have done something but he didn’t until very later o and seeing as things like getting stunned or getting your bearings don’t exist I guess he just got KOed for a bit. And this is the dumbest conclusion I have seen to a characters stats off screen

Ok he was groaning in pain then not gargling, big difference i know. What does "very later" mean? 3 pages later? When the character was on the ground and not in the air? Who says getting stunned or getting your bearings doesn't exist? You are making a lot of weird assumptions. Is it more or less dumb then the conclusion you made in this RT that and i quote "While weakened he beats arkon"

When in reality he never "beat" Arkon as they stopped fighting when the spell was broken?

Dude your litterly assuming he was KOed with no visual evidence even though he was clearly shown to be concession when he was last on panel

Are you trolling me? Once again forget about he was "KO'd", he was immobilized, do you disagree with that? As in he fell to the ground and we didn't see him get up from there until after the fight was over.

So me were it’s stated he just slowed it down, ok fair enough on the arkon part, spidey was just being mentally messed with to believe hyperion(and the rest of the squadron,I think) was warrior Woman but if you don’t believe look at the issue yourself

Show me where it says he stopped it? The whole point was to marry the 2 planets into one, which is where Thor came in when he hammered the device at the right time, otherwise Hyperion could have stopped the planet by himself at any point, long before it reached Earth. Yes it appears you are correct, my apologize on that part, he still didn't no sell the punch but meh...

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@underfire47: it was seeing as it was shown to be slicing across his chest and the next one looks like it is in his chest

ok cool

like near the end of the fight. When the character was in just about any position hulk could have gotten to. Seeing as your just assuming hyperion was KOed after just getting “grazed” by corvus’s spear.Nah I think it’s less dumb then just assuming someone is wrong when you have the info right in front of you to confirm what there saying is true or not.

that I can agree with

You know when Hyperion kinda caught it and it wasn’t shown moving and he lined it up for Thor. Probably because rouge planets well generally break out of a solar system and drag one of the native planets out of it a decent percentage of the time.

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@alphamon: it was seeing as it was shown to be slicing across his chest and the next one looks like it is in his chest

It wasn't in his chest.... we can't even see it from the light.

like near the end of the fight. When the character was in just about any position hulk could have gotten to. Seeing as your just assuming hyperion was KOed after just getting “grazed” by corvus’s spear.Nah I think it’s less dumb then just assuming someone is wrong when you have the info right in front of you to confirm what there saying is true or not.

And Hulk got to him, when he was on the ground. I assume that because he collapsed on the ground and was not seen until after the fight was over, Hulk never collapsed on the ground and was seen 3 pages later while the fight was still ongoing. Yea and there is nothing showing or saying he "stabbed him later on" but you still said that.

You know when Hyperion kinda caught it and it wasn’t shown moving and he lined it up for Thor. Probably because rouge planets well generally break out of a solar system and drag one of the native planets out of it a decent percentage of the time.

It was moving the entire time until Thor hit it to line up. Again more baseless assumptions, not only was it never shown that this rogue planet pulled other planets out of the solar system, Hyperion could have stopped any other planet as well that was potentially dragged a long.

Even though it wasn't because this planet was intentionally fired at Earth, it wasn't just some random event where it flew out of it's solar system naturally and pulled other planets with it.

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@underfire47: the light is only cover the tip it looks like it’s stabbing him instead of cutting him

probably shouldn’t have responded to this part seeing as I agreed with the immobilization but it‘s too late so whatever

were was it moving when Hyperion caught? I never said the rouge planet in the comics dragged out planets I’m saying that’s would it probably would have eventually done left unchecked seeing as IRL rouge planets do the same thing(a percentage of the time but I can’t remember the exact percent), wouldn’t make a lot of sense to just leave a problem like that in the future when you could just get rid of it now

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@alphamon: the light is only cover the tip it looks like it’s stabbing him instead of cutting him

It doesn't look like it's stabbing him to me, it still looks like it was just slicing him.

were was it moving when Hyperion caught? I never said the rouge planet in the comics dragged out planets I’m saying that’s would it probably would have eventually done left unchecked seeing as IRL rouge planets do the same thing(a percentage of the time but I can’t remember the exact percent), wouldn’t make a lot of sense to just leave a problem like that in the future when you could just get rid of it now

It was still moving into Earths space, they basically merged/phased the 2 planets, when Hyperion first caught it, it still didn't make it to Earth, it merged later as he slowed it down. But we already know this didn't have any other planets pulled with it, because this was not a natural event that has like in IRL, this was someone firing 1 planet at Earth.

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@underfire47: ok then I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree then

ok fair enough

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#33  Edited By Whathappened

How big was that planet?

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Nice respect thread. I always thought it was a cope when people tried to say that Hyperion 13034 was some sort of mid tier with lackluster/inconsistent feats even though he was clearly intended to be on par with or near Thor.

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@whathappened: I think it was around the the size of the earth, maybe slightly smaller

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Nice respect thread.

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So...is he still around? Haven't seen him in comics since 2018 IIRC.

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@cognitive: yes but writer’s don’t do much with him nowadays. His manly just a background character most times