How would people feel if marvel separated the high and low tiers into separate universes?

I know this will never happen but this thought came about bc of the ridiculous amount of plot armor and pis street lvl characters tend to have around mid or high tiers.

So in order to make things more consistent they separate the universes accordingly like this

Universe A

>Spider-Man

> daredevil

>punisher

> captain America

> iron man ( should be one of the most powerful characters in the verse)

> Luke cage

> iron fist

> black panther

> namor

> blade

> moon knight

> x men

> pretty much any street lvl character and some mid tiers honestly

Planet lvl should be a huge threat and somewhat rare for this universe.

Universe b( high tiers )

>The x men( Up scaled)

> the fantastic four

> hulk

> Thor

> thanos

>surfer

> gladiator

> sentry

> pretty much any high tier and some mid tiers

I feel like characters like wolverine would need a stat upgrade in this universe. Anyway in this universe planet lvl is common but universal is rare .

These are just thoughts that should not be taken seriously btw

>High tiers

>Gladiator, X-Men

pick one

There should be a Universe C for stories involving characters who are beyond the high level. Such as...

Certain versions of characters who are normally in Universe B that have an upgrade to make them able to interact with the higher threats without dumbing them down. Plus characters who are normally there already like

Franklin Richards

Legion

Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion

The Other Abstracts

Beyonder

Molecule Man

Thing

Mysterio

?

edit: if your talking about why are x men in the same tier with gladiator it’s bc I was thinking of characters like Phoenix. But x men can be in the low tier universe as well. Phoenix can be a super op character that can never been defeated in the traditional sense.

Marvel Netflix kinda proved that this works amazing.

@dmnb2wavy: Glad isn't a high tier playa

how Isn't he?

he can fight against characters like Hyperion, hulk or Thor. Gladiator would certainly decimate any mid tier from my knowledge

@dmnb2wavy: Good god, your formatting is terrible. Please try and make your responses look at least a bit different from mine.

"didn't Hyperion stomp juggernaught? Am I missing something here?"

One: That's the wrong Hyperion. That guy was another evil Hyperion that eventually got killed by the Thunderbolt team at the time, which consisted of street level and mid tier characters.

Two: Juggs was depowered at the time, so he was literally just a big dude at that point.

"He already fought with him evenly Although he was weakened in that fight I’ll give you that."

You can't say he fought evenly but then also say he was nerfed as well. That isn't impressive.

"again he fought with him evenly already"

Considering you haven't provided any scans or context for this, I can't take it as a legit statement.

"What are you talking about? He was shown to be superior in the fight."

Not by a long head at all, which is pretty horrific considering Colossus is a middling mid tier.

@professorrespect: Hyperion is close to Thor in terms of physical strength and durability and they have FTL speeds. I don't see how you think Gladiator isn't a high-tier. Also, just an FYI:

Sounds like a decent idea, and could possibly work, however would most likely not happen since they would probably not be able to figure out how to change the current universe to be like this.

@professorrespect said:

@dmnb2wavy: “Good god, your formatting is terrible. Please try and make your responses look at least a bit different from mine.“

or you just can’t read properly. I put the “” in there so you can tell the difference between what I said and what you said. I mean literally anyone can tell what we stated Apart.

"didn't Hyperion stomp juggernaught? Am I missing something here?"

“One: That's the wrong Hyperion. That guy was another evil Hyperion that eventually got killed by the Thunderbolt team at the time, which consisted of street level and mid tier characters.

Two: Juggs was depowered at the time, so he was literally just a big dude at that point. “

Ard

"He already fought with him evenly Although he was weakened in that fight I’ll give you that."

“You can't say he fought evenly but then also say he was nerfed as well. That isn't impressive.“

ard

"again he fought with him evenly already"

“Considering you haven't provided any scans or context for this, I can't take it as a legit statement.“

you seem to posses a lot of knowledge on gladiator why do you act like you don’t know about this fight?

"What are you talking about? He was shown to be superior in the fight."

“Not by a long head at all, which is pretty horrific considering Colossus is a middling mid tier.“

He tanked colossus slamming a object into him with no damage at all.

also colossus has provided a challenge To hulk if I’m not mistaken.

@byondeon: "Hyperion is close to Thor in terms of physical strength"

Feat wise, absolutely not.

"they have FTL speeds."

Thor has never had either combat or travel FTL speeds. Hyperion hasn't either.

Also Thanos fodderizing a completely different character compared to the one here is irrelevant to the actual non question that is shown here.

@dmnb2wavy: Dude, your formatting is so bad lol. You don't put scans in the proper place and you literally just spam the text at a sideways angle. Nothing to do with my "reading" it's more to do with how ugly it looks. Use a spoiler block.

I have no idea what 'Ard' means, so I can't so anything there.

"you seem to posses a lot of knowledge on gladiator why do you act like you don’t know about this fight?"

Because I don't remember in detail every single fight a character with 300+ appearances has? That's not a thing.

Giving me a contextless scan with no citations isn't gonna fly either.

"He tanked colossus slamming a object into him with no damage at all."

That's not the hallmark of a high tier character.

"also colossus has provided a challenge To hulk"

He hasn't.

I meant small challenge but he managed to briefly stun the hulk in x men vs hulk

edit: I went back to read the issue

so hulk got stunned by colossal after hulk got hit by a fire that may have weakened him or not.

@dmnb2wavy: I can't actually respond to your post due to the fact you've done it in such a messy way that I can't really quote it without it looking like a mess. Please fix it

Thanks

@professorrespect: please go ahead and explain why it’s messy instead of saying it’s just messy. I would like to know why it’s messy bc just saying it’s messy isn’t helping anyone isn’t it?

thanks

For one, the spoiler blocks are used inproperly and are all over the place.

Two, you talk in the quoted section of my own post as well as below it, which is confusing to follow.

Three, you don't seem to know what a comma is and just use full stops or just brute force the entire sentence out.

Four, you don't actually highlight your own replies to my post and type it in the exact same format, which is also hard to follow.

Using "Ard" which isn't actually a word, nor a shortened one (if you were going to use the short for "agree" you'd just say the full word, rather than using half of it)

No need. Nobody but us fans take this stuff that seriously to begin with. And PIS is not exclusive to street tiers either.

@professorrespect: thor in bill's intruduction flew at ftl and dodged attacks in this speed he has some feats like that if you want to wank him enough

Colossus is much downplayed in this site, just as the Thing. Even WWH said that normaly colossus gives hulk a good fight

@asgardianweapon: I know Classic Thor has some silly travel speed feats, but they aren't consistent at all with his usual speed, particularly in combat.

> NAMOR

> LOWTIER

i also said some mid tiers not just low tiers btw.

some mid tiers in universe a and some in universe b

"responded with slang that I thought a lot of people knew and I asked how old you are.

Which is extremely rude to do in general. People don't know your bogus, barely known slang from whatever you got it from.

also I never asked why can’t you understand it,

You basically did, then asked how old I was as a snarky insult.

I said I would tell you if you don’t know but I won’t stop using it.

I couldn't care less if you don't want to speak actual words. Don't blame me for not understanding it, through.

lol wut?

Doing that would be really silly tbh. Like i get the frustration of Marvel sometimes showing street tiers hang around tiers much higher than theirs but that's always been part of it, i would hate to miss all interactions between these characters just so we could make battle boards be more "clean".

@professorrespect Btw that scan he showed you is not of 616 Gladiator, it's a Gladiators from Reigning, not from current 616 Marvel, Odin even saw this so he sent him back to his universe

616 Gladiator has never actually fought 616 Thor(well except for the most recent Avengers issue where he wrestled with BroodThor), he fought 616 Eric Masterson and lost to him in the end.

Then were is the point? High tiers have their stories with high tier villains and low-tiers have their stories with low-tier villaons anyway and where is the point in there being the categorization of tiers once their not in the same world anyway In case fans end up using the characters from these now different universes in a hypothetical meeting or match-up?

@underfire47: Heh, as expected. There's always context to these kind of scans.

Thanos calling Gladiator the most dangerous of the Annihilators is probably the dumbest thing he ever said tbh. I've noticed that people use that statement to highball the character the same way people highball Hulk because Thanos said he avoids confrontation with him.

@professorrespect: no, yeah i agree

About the thread there could be interesting worldbuilding consequences bcs of that