Before posting a fight in "Battles" I wanted to get a clearer idea on especially the manga version of Beerus. I'm not sure if I'd have to specify manga/anime/or any version. In order to not create a mismatch I tried looking at previous battles (but not the manga because who has time to read all of DBS), but when apparently SSR Goku black, SSB Goku, and SSB Vegeta can supposedly win against Beerus as a team, that doesn't sound right. Any ideas on how to accurately gauge Beerus before I give a fair Battle? If Goku and Vegeta any forms are unable to win, how far do I need to go and add people? Obviously I wouldn't add someone stronger individually like Whis or Grand Priest. In my Battle I would disable fusion for the regular scenario, and as a bonus round add it in.
How strong is manga version Beerus in DBS?
Manga Beerus is pretty much Top 2 amongst all the GoDs, he and Quitela where the last 2 standing during a GoD battle royale they did to amuse Zeno, Belmod was pretending to be KO though, so he might be at the same level as those 2.
He also has the feat of shaking the universe when clashing fists with Goku, which unlike the anime, it wasn't stated that the universe would be destroyed after 3 clashes, there was only one, to which Elder Kai said something like "At this rate the entire universe is in jeopardy".
There's also him and champa oneshotting planets with physical attacks during their fight and many statements here and there, of casual planet and star busting
@rukelnikovftw: He also 1 shotted SSB Vegeta a few arcs ago
To give you an idea he was toying with Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta while still holding back most of his power. After Vegeta transformed into a Perfected Super Saiyan Blue he did better but Beerus was still capable of casually one shotting him. And Vegeta is stated to be comparable to Goku in that form, who in the previous arc was fighting on par with Merged Zamasu. This shows Beerus is far above the manga versions of Goku, Vegeta and Black while not even at full power, they would not be capable of beating him even as a Team. In the ToP arc he is shown fighting multiple Gods of Destruction at the same time, showing great fighting skill alongside an unmastered but still useful form of Ultra Instinct. The only characters from the manga that I can see taking him on a 1v1 are Ultra Instinct Goku, Jiren and of course Angels and Zeno (maybe other Gods of Destruction as well).
As for his AP, he is universal level.
@sagathelegend: Would it be unfair to pit MUI Goku, Jiren, SSBE Vegeta, SSR Goku Black, and a ton of other fodder Z-fighters against Beerus? No fusion. The problem with even basing it on the anime is Beerus being amazed at Goku could either be interpreted as scared amazement due to Goku being stronger than him, or amazed that a mortal is that strong.
@sagathelegend: Would it be unfair to pit MUI Goku, Jiren, SSBE Vegeta, SSR Goku Black, and a ton of other fodder Z-fighters against Beerus?
Yeah, MUI Goku and Jiren can solo.
@takenstew22: why are you trolling? We all know only Legit regards would think that. You know Beerus can solo Jiren and MUI goku in the manga.
@takenstew22: why are you trolling? We all know only Legit regards would think that. You know Beerus can solo Jiren and MUI goku in the manga.
No. Jiren and MUI Goku beat him.
Also, nice insult.
@emperorthanos-@majinblackheart@morpheus_@god_spawn@rogueshadow@juiceboks
At this moment he’s anywhere from planet Moro level to above current MUI goku. Making him considerably above Jiren and broly, as well as Being above broly movie gogeta blue (although a hypothetical current gogeta/vegito blue would possibly be stronger).
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