How strong is current 616 Captain Marvel(Carol Danvers)?

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How strong do people think Captain Marvel in base and in binary is? I’ve been curious for a while. Like is her attack potency star level, solar system, galactic, universal etc? Please try not to get too angry with what people say I’m just curious where everyone thinks she stands.

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basicly is her power level

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Weaker than Thor and Hulk.

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Weaker than Thor and Hulk.

^ I'd say she's substantially weaker.

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Stronger than Thor and Hulk.

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I strong as you want her to be

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She's a High-Tier without Binary and Herald-Tier with Binary.

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Stronger than you

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Base she's like a really high mid tier to lower high tier. Her powers were stated to getting stronger over time and she's demonstrated so. To the point of hampering the fall of multiple celestials.

In her binary state she's a casual low herald(lacks hax to be on that upper echelon) like considerably more powerful than savage hulk but below and slightly below thor(although she stalemates characters that give thor trouble she still lacks the hax to be thor's equal).

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#11  Edited By EcstaticGrace

@olorun: I’d argue she has the hax t’s just writers ignore a lot of Binary’s abilities

her most impressive feat is creating a white hole that threatened the fabric of space

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#12  Edited By ProfessorRespect  Online

It depends on who's writing her at the time. Some place her as a low high tier, sometimes she gets placed far above that by certain authors.

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@ecstaticgrace: ??? where?? She's got no hax besides energy manipulation. That's it. Yes she stalemated firelord who always stalemates thor. But that's not enough to say they're in the exact same level specially since odinson has mjolnir.

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@ecstaticgrace: grace(is your name Grace, I've got a good friend named Grace) I've read X-men unlimited #12/#13 multiple times. The white hole was a threat due to being localised on one of the 3 spots that machine monster was gonna use to collapse the galaxy. Yes she's impressive by creating a white holem still not haxed like mjolnir.

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#15  Edited By EcstaticGrace

@olorun:

Calling it energy manipulation kind of broadens it

Energy Constructs, Energy manipulation, Absorption and Projection

Absolute Force Manipulation: At the height of her power, Carol in her Binary form had virtually limitless stores of raw energy she could consciously tack into for unlimited purposes. She could feed on and project every known form of energy up and down the EM Spectrum able to radiate heat, light, cosmic, x-rays, and the like as well as gravity; with which to presumably use in a telekinetic fashion.

There’s also this she’s been shown in space manipulating black holes, gravity, I think some stuff in base under KSD was pretty versatile. She uses her powers really versatile and they range throughout the spectrum like Monica’s does

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@olorun said:

@ecstaticgrace: grace(is your name Grace, I've got a good friend named Grace) I've read X-men unlimited #12/#13 multiple times. The white hole was a threat due to being localised on one of the 3 spots that machine monster was gonna use to collapse the galaxy. Yes she's impressive by creating a white holem still not haxed like mjolnir.

What? The white hole was a threat because it was expanding that’s why it threatened space and the reason they were trying to shut it

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@ecstaticgrace: Mr/Ms grace(can I call you that??) sure her energy manipulation is incredible its what makes her a herald level character.

Yes she can be connected to a white hole and spew it's energy which is impressive. From what I understand her control over gravity is extremely minute. Not enough to compare to high tiers like graviton or silver surfer.

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@ecstaticgrace: from what I remember there was a subplot of Carol being possessed to try and close the white hole but she was out of control.

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@olorun: Yeah these aliens try to control her and she was trying to stabilize the white hole she created but eventually was getting overwhelmed by it. Phoenix Jean comes in and breaks the aliens control over Binary

she is versatile though

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Thought this was an impressive ability that needed some highlight

The ability to create a white hole

Quasar issue 34 1992

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Quasar states the vortex she creates is superior to his or “far more powerful”

X-Men unlimited issue 13 1998

Her struggling to maintain control of a white hole in her Binary form. The white hole was threatening the fabric of space
Her struggling to maintain control of a white hole in her Binary form. The white hole was threatening the fabric of space

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@ecstaticgrace: Honestly I was expecting more actual answers but I guess since she’s not Thor or anyone else and people dislike her, she’s kinda just dismissed which is super disappointing. Thank you for genuine answers though I truly appreciate that

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@olorun: Much like @ecstaticgrace: thank you for an actual answer that’s what I always thought about her but I didn’t know for sure. I always considered her pretty high after her struggle with the Phoenix and Cosmic Ghost Rider. Not mentioning her current run with everything in « Thé Last Avenger » like her being able to match Thor in base for quite some time

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@emilycosmos: yh Carol is impressive but doesn't get her due for various reasons(bendis, sexism).

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Weaker than thor

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Gets stomped by Supergirl

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@punyaamrit: basically said the same thing but better😊

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@cosmicrein: more powerful than savage hulk and slightly below a competent thor is the correct tale here.

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She definitely got an amp in the recent years. Can one-shot Iron Man. Should be similar tier with Thor and Hulk, but below them.

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