How strong do you want Supergirl Flash Superman and the Anti monitor to be in the Coie (Cw) ?

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I've always thought Anti-Monitor should be the most powerful being in the DCU outside of the Presence. COIE was the first event comic I ever read, and still perhaps the biggest in scale, so I see Anti-Monitor as the end-all be-all big bad. Not sure if they'll be able to capture that tier of power on a budget, but still.

Flash, Supergirl, and Superman should all be at their prime power levels in COIE, but should still be absolutely no match against the Anti-Monitor in terms of raw power.

@firestormfate1919: That's True don't see anyone or anything being above the anti monitor in the arrowverse, we know that he's at least universal by being above the monitor+the bod who's universal

I think that flash/Supergirl and Superman will be on their comic book counterparts level in the Coie

I'm guessing the Anti Monitor will be multi universal. I'm gonna go ahead and make some crazy predictions for the crossover.

• AM creates a typical blue sky beam and is consuming universes at the heart of it.
• Flash will be confirmed to be MFTL
• Oliver will time a shot where he hands Barry an arrow when he runs at FTL speeds
• Supergirl and Superman will both turn evil at one point in the crossover and Oliver defeats them both
• Supergirl will have a planet level+ feat in terms of strength and one universal feat in terms of durability
• Green Arrow will use an atomic warhead arrow made by Cisco
• Green Arrow will die along with a bunch of "minor" characters (MMH, Kid Flash, Speedy and so on)
• The combined efforts of Flash and Supergirl will defeat a weakened Anti Monitor
• The crossover ends with Oliver's funeral

Watch all of that be true.

If CW wanks Oliver this hard he will surpass Russo Force Cap for sure.

@thesuperor: LMAO this Oliver is a legit a god

@the_hajduk: Lmfao

@eobard21: Don't constantly bump your own threads please.

@the_stegman: Sure

Flash will be FTL with Infinity Mass Punch.

Supergirl will bust AM armor when none else could which would provide ridiculous scaling.

Arrow will get the kill shot with his multiversal busting arrow.

@the_kidd: I would hate to see Oliver killing the anti monitor

Why though? It would actually be dope and carry a lot of emotional weight if he actually dies.

This isn't even a prediction, but Barry won't job, since he rarely jobs in crossovers.

@thesuperor: It should be a combined effort of everyone to take him down imo

Yeah of course. Oliver could deliver the final blow though but he won't defeat him alone obviously.

@thesuperor: True and tbh want to see some comic book level of feats personally

Like I really want to see the anti monitor being a monster

@eobard21: Budget could be a problem. Don't know how they are going to pull off Anti-Monitor's looks, let alone an action set piece with him.

@thesuperor: Yeah but i think they're going to have more budget for this one

Since he is the figure head of his universe make sense he would kill its biggest threat. CW clearly wants him to be their Batman so I can him going out similar to Bruce in Final Crisis.

@the_kidd: Yeah that's true

@the_hajduk: I thought Arrowpotence is far above Russoforce.

Malcolmpotence can one shot Firestorm

I thought competing with Reign and stopping MTFL+++ Exodus program ship is king of some planet lvl feats don't u think ? But sure she will be stronger. I hope Martian and Superman will get amps too

@thesuperor: No i don't want Wally, Thea and J'onn die :9

@davidharewood14: @sexybayonetta22: How strong are Kara and Barry going to be in your opinion ?

Cap pushed back Infinity Gauntlet Thanos.

Oliver bullet times. Thrice. Just so there isn't any doubt left that he's a bullet timer.

@rbt: Lmao

They aren't going to be strong.

@helloman: Bait

@the_hajduk: Cw arrow>anyone else even Cap

Plus it wouldn't exactly be unprecedented in the comics. Oliver strikes the finishing blow against Parallax, another Multiversal threat in the crisis after COIE.

@firestormfate1919: Would like to see Barry's infinite mass punch killing AM

I'd be open to that as well. Wally takes down Anti-Monitor, albeit a nerfed version, with a flurry of IMP's.

It's hard to go wrong with who takes the Anti-Monitor down in the end, because they could all have a convincing case. Kara and Barry are both integral to COIE in the comics, and are the two major deaths of the storyline. Oliver isn't integral in the comics, but he started this live-action universe and it seems like COIE is gonna be his last story, so that might have the most emotional resonance with the audience.

Notice Oliver made a pact with Monitor. Maybe Monitor ordered him to sacrifice his life, soul etc. to destroy Anti-Monitor

I don't want to say or calculate how much ton they can lift or their striking but Kara: Stopped MTFL+++ speed spaceship ( already switched on this speed after 20 seconds and visible engines were working at full power ), lifted 1 milion ton Fort Rozz throwing it at FTL speed ( 2 years later and reached another solar system, knowing that solar systems are located at least 4 light years away ), casually lifted 1 milion ton key, breaks through that materials which can withstand that pressure, Rory Mick's heatgun is a joke to her, Flash hax bolts are joke to her, cannot be harmed by Jack Spheer below atomic lvl nanotech, on pair with Superman who can tank hax/reality warping beam of destiny book, can keep up with Flash or Eobard no matter with how great speed speedsters are moving ( but not at Flashpoint or S4 flash ), tanks low continent lvl explosions being unharmed or Reign strikes ( low lvl planet buster ). Can stalemate Reign in brute force or on pair with white martians who can overpower normal kryptonian combining their strenght with telekinesis.

+ her heatvision can create fusion bomb, melt/evaporate great fraction of earth to contain low city lvl bomb ( it was powerful enough to activate this futuristic ship located deep in the bay ). Freeze breath can stop for several seconds Jack Spheer tech which is powerful to turn normal human into nothing or overpower S2 Kara in brute force ( post Exodus ).

Barry: Fast as serious situation can be, from mach 4 speed to speed capable to travel through planet in seconds to time travel lvl speeds and picosecond movement. His phasing is very broken skill to remove organs regardless of durability, his travel speed can by this "8" shape lift heavy cistern overpowering this metahuman ( forgot name ), time and interdimensional travels are very powerful too. Strong to punch Laurel upward etc.

They are very underestimated one. True still nowhere Smallville powerhouses but still they have some upcoming seasons of feats

@davidharewood14: They're underestimated that's for sure and like you said they're maybe not as strong as the Smallville high tiers but they're still really powerful

@firestormfate1919: That's true any of them could get the finishing blow but in the end I think it's either Barry or Oliver who's gonna finish AM

Barry because of how much the flash show is connected to the Crisis

Arrow because well the arrowverse started with him

Ok and Arrowpotence can make Ollie tanking Nazi Kara strikes ( equal to S3 Kara who is strong enough to stop MTFL ++++ ships ), faster than Superman on pair with Kara and Flash, one shoted multiversal relic the Book of Destiny ( IG is universal, Book of Destiny is multiversal ) etc.

Arrowpotence > Russoforce

@eobard21: This Red Daughter despite no impressive feats on screen she stores energy capable of infecting entire planet with magic storms. Russian Supergirl is creation of this magic rock Horun-El as automatic respond of creating Earth-38 version of Flashpoint.

SuperSJWgirl will call Anti-Monitor a bigot and get him arrested.

Superman will die from a single blow or be beaten so hard he pleads with Kara to save the universe because he can’t.

Arrow will shoot out one of Anti-Monitor’s eyes somehow.

Barry will have another family love crisis that makes everyone uncomfortable and confused as to why this is happening still.

MMH will preach to the Anti-Monitor about something dumb before dying.

@davidharewood14: How was the book multiversal?

@vulkanian: Lmfao

@vulkanian: What ?! That won't happen. CW got adult and began respecting Kal and J'onn more. They are not gonna nerf them like that especially Kal can tank full force of Destiny Book and J'onn is gonna be a killer so won't be holding back like he does it a lot

Have written infinite universes inside it.

@davidharewood14: Pretty sure the book is universal and not multiversal

@eobard21: but still has much better feats than IG from mcu. Book already was warping reality making alternate universe where Queen and Allen swaped bodies or where both where criminals/Olsen was bar owner, Diaz was a cop/Cisco was Mafia boss

@davidharewood14: Oh yeah the book is far above the gauntlet there's no question about that