How powerful are the Elder Gods (Marvel)?

How powerful are Chthon, Set, Gaea and Oshtur compare to Sky-Fathers, Cosmic Entities, Shuma-Gorath etc?

Also, where would you rank them from strongest to weakest (Chthon, Set, Gaea, Oshtur)?

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Stronger than Skyfathers. Maybe on the level of Celestials.

The weakest of the major ones (Gaea) is well above Odin. The strongest (Oshtur/Set/Chthon) are probably up there with the likes of Shuma-Gorath.

Gaea is stated to be the mother of all Gods, as far as I recall. Could be wrong.

Ik some stuff about Chthon and Set and that Gaea isn't really a fighter but did Oshtur ever did anything other than birthing Agamotto and forming Vishanti?

I'm not sure Gaea has consistently been portrayed as that powerful. Sometimes perhaps. I think they are somewhere between Skyfather and someone like Shuma who is said to be far above the combined power of the Vishanti which is 3 of the more powerful elder gods.

@spambot: I'm not sure Gaea has consistently been portrayed as that powerful. Sometimes perhaps.

At her height (Chaos War) - if I'm remembering correctly - she was depicted as far above the likes of Skyfather!Hercules, and it was her power added to his own that enabled him to go toe to toe with Mikaboshi.

I think they are somewhere between Skyfather and someone like Shuma who is said to be far above the combined power of the Vishanti which is 3 of the more powerful elder gods.

I don't remember it ever being said that Shuma > the Vishanti, let alone >> them. Oshtur has on a few occasions been depicted as the antithesis of Chthon, who himself has been compared to Shuma in recent years, as I recall.

Gaea was the catalyst for Hercules somehow unlocking his powers but which I think was pretty much just plot power. I think it has been said that the Vishanti combined could only hope to banish Shuma from the 616 universe though writers aren't always consistent about anything.

@baldur_odinson said:

I think the correct word was source of all divinity.

Yeah, true. I always took Gaea's I give you my power literally because it doesn't make sense otherwise. Wasn't Herc boosted by some artifacts as well?

More powerful than Galactus, Celestials, and Skyfathers within their own dimensions.

What gives you this idea?

Yeah, NO! What gives you this idea?

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Principality level. Above Skyfathers/Hell Lords

In all honesty it doesn't really make any sense at all. She just tells Hercules to be reborn in the crater where Gaea gave birth to the gods and some mumbo jumbo and then he becomes super large(to where he dwarfs earth) and is able to knock the Chaos King through a door into an empty universe where he is sealed up. Then he uses up all his new found power to undo all the damage that CK did to the multiverse. CW was a horribly written story imo and the art was terrible as well.

That's true lol.

@destinyman75 thoughts?

Above skyfathers, nothing crazy above that

@humbleguy: Hercules had artifacts and was amped by all the gods on top of that as well

Somewhere between Skyfathers and Abstracts.

Close to celestial level I imagine

Aha thanks.

Where would you place them in hierarchy?

The less said about that nonsensical brainfart called Chaos War (a swift reminder that Pak should never ever touch any character north (in power hierarchy) of Zeus) the better.

Also, Gaea is clearly no match for Celestials, otherwise why did she bow down and offered Young Gods to them begging for to spare the Earth.

Maybe because she was out numbered.

Nah. We've never really saw what Elder Gods are capable of. They are all hype.

Perhaps but I'm pretty sure they're intended to be stronger than Skyfathers.

@humbleguy: above skyfathers normal galen and no named celestials.

But below true shuma who has multiversal threats as underlings