How many MCU Thor's will it take to defeat Current DCEU Flash?

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Poll How many MCU Thor's will it take to defeat Current DCEU Flash? (96 votes)

Jane is Enough (1 Thor) 34%
Jane + Worthy Cap is Enough (2 Thor's) 1%
Jane + Cap + Vision is Enough (3 Thor's) 0%
Jane + Cap + Vision + Thor (4 Thor's) 2%
All four Thor's is still not enough for Flash 63%
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After flash, doubt Thor will ever be able to tag him.

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@rjr: ”after flash”. as if thor can even perceive him now

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#4  Edited By ZedbeZ

He solos the avengers before his coffee is done brewing

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Damn is he that strong or just hype

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1 lol.

Flash is much faster but lacks AP.

Might change after the movie comes out though.

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@yejj said:

Damn is he that strong or just hype?

A little bit of both

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#8  Edited By yejj
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1 lol.

Flash is much faster but lacks AP.

Might change after the movie comes out though.

Apparently some people here already saw the movie and are claiming hes stronger, check the flash official trailer 2 thread

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I read the leaks, if what he said is true then Flash solos the Avengers lol.

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All of them. Apparently dude can vaporize a kryptonian and actually damage them

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#13  Edited By Galacticstarsee

anti feat for the kryptonians, they get scaled down

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Well from what I’m hearing it might take an army lmao

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Depends if leaks are true or not, if it is then Flash can solo and army of them

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Does anyone get any solo feats this movie and not tied into other movies, kryptonians are fodder I this movie keaton Batman (human) gives them trouble.

And what are the leaks

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anti feat for the kryptonians, they get scaled down

Most likely

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Lol why would they get scaled down? We've already established how extremely durable they are with MoS and BvS, flash is just that OP doing something a nuke couldn't

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@DammeFavour: I for sure agree Kryptonians shouldn’t be getting scaled down but Flash scaled up, however, I also don’t think he’d scale to the nuke feat since that was adapted Clark vs these being unadapted Kryptonians. That said, forget damaging, if he’s for real >vaporizing< even unadapted Kryptonians he’s probably the new LA CB solo king.

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#21  Edited By Galacticstarsee

@supremegeneration: a nuke did reduce Clark to a skeleton even whilst doomsday absorbing it.

So the flash wouldn't be far above it.

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Lol why would they get scaled down? We've already established how extremely durable they are with MoS and BvS, flash is just that OP doing something a nuke couldn't

Question, how come these Kryptonians scale but What...If? does not? Seems a little like a double standard.

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@goldeneagle: because anyone not blind can tell what if guys are far above the live action ones?

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@supremegeneration: why was faora & nam ek able to hang with Clark & even ko him if he should be far above them because he’s “adapted”. Do you think teen Clark is above them as well?

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@supremegeneration: Saying he's the new LA CB solo king is pushing it a little bit. He killed some low high tiers. Practically what every main villain does in any team up movie. Even ignoring DCEU, and MCU, to become the new solo king, he would need to beat out CW Superman, Smallville Clark, Fox Jean Grey, and Fox Silver Surfer. Characters like that would vape unadapted Kryptonians as well. I do admit it is impressive and very much high tier level, but not LA soloing type. I understand the hype though.

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#27  Edited By goldeneagle

@rjr: Thor couldn't tag him beforehand I don't think.

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@nassergrant19: I never said she was Thor 1 level🤨?

Only that she's equivalent to single Thor-like character.

Anyway aren't you the same fella who constantly says L&T characters were massively amped?

So shouldn't a person who scales to those characters be at least phase 1 Thor level?

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Well from what I’m hearing it might take an army lmao

Lol, mcu fans are already saying they're gonna down scale kryptonians like supes because of the movie, like their forgetting that supes is above unadapted kryptonians. In reality flash may have just gotten op and they just dont want him to be that powerful, because if it's all true and flash alone can phase kill while in combat and fight FTL, it literally puts thor and superman in jeopardy.

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@galacticstarsee said:

anti feat for the kryptonians, they get scaled down

Most likely

Anti feats and scaling down for unadapted kryptonians that is, current supes has always been way above those kryptonians and at least it will hilariously put these threads to rest, and I'm all for it.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/thor-mcu-vs-faora-and-nam-ek-dceu-1952415/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dceu-faora-vs-mcu-thor-1917842/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/mcu-thor-vs-dceu-faora-and-namek-1930454/

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#31  Edited By RJR
@goldeneagle said:

@rjr: Thor couldn't tag him beforehand I don't think.

He couldn't. He would see him, but not tag him. If the leaks pan out of him fighting dark flash in FTL, than impossible at this point.

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#32  Edited By goldeneagle

@rjr: I see. Good point

It's gonna be really epic if they have a fight at MFTL speeds going through time and stuff. Like busting through a scene in the Renaissance era. LOL

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#33  Edited By RJR
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@rjr: I see. Good point

It's gonna be really epic if they have a fight at MFTL speeds going through time and stuff. Like busting through a scene in the Renaissance era. LOL

True lol, at least it explain the leaning tower of pisa in a new twist

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@killianduclark: No I’m saying she’s at least above IW/EG Thor lvl strength.

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@rjr: JL Supes is clearly significantly above his MoS self. As seen with him flat out toying with people on their level with the league, and stomping wolf.

SC Supes is on a different planet compared to MoS kryptonians, like the gap is already large but with SC feats it becomes catastrophic.

Flash literally only needs good potency or phase hax feats. He’s already capable of statuing everyone. If I had to guess I’d imagine Flash is above BA, below or equal to supes, and above anyone in the MCU.

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As of JL, one Thor is enough, either Barry trips and knocks himself out by landing on Thor's body or Thor just one shots him with AOE, this Barry is even worse than CW Flash at using his powers.

This might change with his solo movie though.

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And this is current 2023 Flash Barry right?

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And this is current 2023 Flash Barry right?

Yes

He learns to significantly increase his density to stop being le fodder

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Flash is about to have so many fanbases in shambles when the movie comes out.

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@rajjarsalt: Damn. Not looking good for Kryptonians and Flash.

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@nassergrant19 said:

And this is current 2023 Flash Barry right?

Yes

Why are you lying? You know perfectly well this is from a prequel comic that takes place before the events of flash movie. It's not his current power by a long short and neither is his 2023 version.

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He learns to significantly increase his density to stop being le fodder

Quite the downplay.

Not only does he at the end of the very issue you are using to low-ball him, learn to punch villains and receive no damage

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He states he can dish out city block level punches with barely a running start

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@rajjarsalt said:
@nassergrant19 said:

And this is current 2023 Flash Barry right?

Yes

Why are you lying? You know perfectly well this is from a prequel comic that takes place before the events of flash movie. It's not his current power by a long short and neither is his 2023 version.

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He learns to significantly increase his density to stop being le fodder

Quite the downplay.

Not only does he at the end of the very issue you are using to low-ball him, learn to punch villains and receive no damage

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He states he can dish out city block level punches with barely a running start

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It's the tie-in to the official film, said to be a lead-up to the events in the film; using publishing date as a serious argument is Snyderson goofy as usual

Speaking of which, why are you lying? Not hurt headass

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>Uses Flash's self-wank

>expects to be taken seriously

Dismissed!

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@rajjarsalt said:
@nassergrant19 said:

And this is current 2023 Flash Barry right?

Yes

Why are you lying? You know perfectly well this is from a prequel comic that takes place before the events of flash movie. It's not his current power by a long short and neither is his 2023 version.

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He learns to significantly increase his density to stop being le fodder

Quite the downplay.

Not only does he at the end of the very issue you are using to low-ball him, learn to punch villains and receive no damage

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He states he can dish out city block level punches with barely a running start

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So basically in the beginning of the comic, he was his weaker JL self, but by the end of the comic he was trained by bruce to be more powerful, stronger, disciplined, and overall a better a fighter than he was before (which will explain his combat improvements in the flash movie). Damn people are already trying to lowball flash. So it's TRUE, after the flash a lot coping is gonna happen once flash becomes OP.

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#46  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online
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@rajjarsalt: Damn. Not looking good for Kryptonians and Flash.

Snyder's sons will pray, they will cope, for they cannot withstand the sheer extent of how much this whiner sucks

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#47  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online
@rjr said:
@killianduclark said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@nassergrant19 said:

And this is current 2023 Flash Barry right?

Yes

Why are you lying? You know perfectly well this is from a prequel comic that takes place before the events of flash movie. It's not his current power by a long short and neither is his 2023 version.

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He learns to significantly increase his density to stop being le fodder

Quite the downplay.

Not only does he at the end of the very issue you are using to low-ball him, learn to punch villains and receive no damage

No Caption Provided

He states he can dish out city block level punches with barely a running start

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So basically in the beginning of the comic, he was his weaker JL self, but by the end of the comic he was trained by bruce to be more powerful, stronger, disciplined, and overall a better a fighter than he was before (which will explain his combat improvements in the flash movie). Damn people are already trying to lowball flash. So it's TRUE, after the flash a lot coping is gonna happen once flash becomes OP.

Flash learns one trick and you're talking about him like this? He's the same guy, if he doesn't perform that technique he is still le fodder. Lifeline of Flash fans is the hope that he will use this for 2 hours straight which is bound to be impossible

As for cope, the best he manages to do with this technique is dent someone who is as hard as a wrecking ball, who is said to be a living steel wall. Snyder's sons are so hungry that even such a meager feat will satiate them, but after that, he hits the steel five times, fails to dent it, and hurts his own hands in the process.

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It's the tie-in to the official film, said to be a lead-up to the events in the film; using publishing date as a serious argument is Snyderson goofy as usual

The comprehension skills of the average MCU debater on full display as per usual.

The comic takes place before the events of movie. That's all that matters. It's not his current form and neither is it his 2023 version.

In short you lied.

Speaking of which, why are you lying? Not hurt headass

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Mere panels before this (panels you conveniently chose to crop out btw)

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*Runs to outskirts of central city

*Delivers a massive punch that dents girder.

*Isn't fazed by said punch.

*Is fazed by subsequent punches.

Hmm.... it's almost like the speedster character with no innate super durability or strength needs momentum to throw his super sonic punches. Shocking i know.

>Uses Flash's self-wank

>expects to be taken seriously

Statement backed by feat is now self wank?

I know as a MCU debater you are unfamiliar with actual feats, but sweet child no amount of mental gymnastics is changing this fact

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@DammeFavour: I for sure agree Kryptonians shouldn’t be getting scaled down but Flash scaled up, however, I also don’t think he’d scale to the nuke feat since that was adapted Clark vs these being unadapted Kryptonians. That said, forget damaging, if he’s for real >vaporizing< even unadapted Kryptonians he’s probably the new LA CB solo king.

Plus Superman wasn't even directly hit and was missing most of his mass, Snyder said he would have died if it wasn't for the Sun

Snyder's sons were too cowardly to admit this, but I recall that D4B showed unadapted Kryptonians taking Ls from Lois herself!

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#50  Edited By rajjarsalt  Online
@killianduclark said:
@rajjarsalt said:

The comprehension skills of the average MCU debater on full display as per usual.

The comic takes place before the events of movie. That's all that matters. It's not his current form and neither is it his 2023 version.

In short you lied.

No, "current form/2023 version" are things you made up. It's the same Flash.

Mere panels before this (panels you conveniently chose to crop out btw)

*Runs to outskirts of central city

*Delivers a massive punch that dents girder.

*Isn't fazed by said punch.

*Is fazed by subsequent punches.

Hmm.... it's almost like the speedster character with no innate super durability or strength needs momentum to throw his super sonic punches. Shocking i know.

>learns a technique that very literally grants him super durability

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If you have any more cojones than Ezra Miller you'll concede that I was right in saying he was hurt.

Statement backed by feat is now self wank?

I know as a MCU debater you are unfamiliar with actual feats, but sweet child no amount of mental gymnastics is changing this fact

God the irony

Where's the feat that backs city block busting Flash? Why didn't you present it instead of using some rubbish statement from Barry? Hint hint, it doesn't exist!

Pray that Flash uses this technique against the Kryptonians! Pray, or else they will be less durable than the steel you'll be taking after Flash's Ls are revealed for all to see!

Anyway as I have demonstrated a son of Snyder rejects any and all MCU as his brethren are bound to do, and overcompensates by accepting any and all Flash wank even for something as demeaning as these showings against steel.